Relax everyone - NO WAY Kerry loses tomorrow night

[DancingBear]

Pure and simple - Bush is literally too stupid to pull it off. Kerry had his number the first time, and believe me he's got it for tomorrow too.

Think of all the arrows Kerry still has in the quiver - Bin Laden dead or alive vs. I don't think much about him, Kay/Bremer, etc. comments about WMD's, Cheney's series of lies about 'connections", Edwards, etc. - the list goes on. Then of course there is the guaranteed-to-set-him-off "you know, your father would have..." line. Kerry has so many buttons he can push it's like playtime in an elevator.

The press can't spin it - Bush was a fool the first time - he'll look even worse this time. He'll be a child ranting against a statesman, and the audience will see it. The Kerry folks know all too well of Gore 2000 - the lessons were learned in the first debate. Kerry will be short, concise, and lethal. The Death By 1000 Cuts will continue, and Bush will be reduced, as Cheney was, to spewing bile. Unlike Cheney, he's not bright enough to do it right.

Kerry knows what's coming - we here should see that - and the beating he is about to lay on Daddy's Spoiled Brat will seal the deal.

60/40 there is no 3rd debate.

[Erika]

1. Agreed. Kerry has turned this into a psychological battle..

to unwit Bush. Mission accomplished.

[Ruby Romaine]

2. i agree

We'll be proud of our John Kerry!

[cynatnite]

3. I think Bush will hold his own

I don't think he'll be as bad as he was in the last debate, but he'll still lose. The only good thing he's done in the white house is the do not call list...that is unless you're a democratic telemarketer.

He'll do better, but still lose.

[RummyTheDummy]

14. Calls from political candidates aren't prohibited by the no call list

Neither are those of charities. The local FOP has been driving me nuts for months.

[Teaser]

4. Bush is an excellent debater.

Last time was a fluke. Honest.
This time, Kerry will weep like a child...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Why Do We Have To Lower Expectations Here?

There's no gullible sheeple to spin....


but that line's a gem...


Last time was the real thing. Honest....

When it happens again Bush will weep like a child...

[AspenRose]

9. Hee hee hee, is it time for the "Bush is a Master Debater" posts again?

Look out y'all...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Master Of War

and he's even flubbing at the aftermath...

[Jacobin]

5. The Republican Pivot

Here Comes the Bush Pivot
I've been figuring for a while now that BC04 would eventually begin to pivot at least partially from the "flip-flop" attacks on John Kerry to the more conventional conservative argument that JK is an old-fashioned, big-government, tax and spend liberal.

If Bush's new stump speech, unveiled today in the NE Pennsylvania cockpit of one battleground state, is any indication, the pivot is fully underway. It's a very primitive and totally negative speech, emblematic of a president who can't claim the political center and thus is determined to shove his opponent to the fringes by sheer assertion and extensive misrepresentation of his record. Aside from focusing on some random 1972 Kerry statement on the role of the UN (we all know how substantive Bush was three decades ago, right?), the speech repeats the usual GOP lies about Kerry's defense record; accuses Kerry of an inveterate desire to raise taxes and expand government; and heavily features the one-year "most liberal Senator" rating of Kerry by the National Journal, a claim the DLC demolished months ago.

It's hard to believe that the president, whose fiscal record is a disaster, and whose administration and party bestride Washington like a colossus, is trying to make John Kerry the candidate of Big Government and of runaway federal spending. But if we know anything about BC04, it's that it treats facts and reason, and the intelligence of the American people, with equal contempt.

Get ready for some real outrages.

http://www.newdonkey.com/2004/10/here-comes-bush-pivot.html

Sounds like what Smirky will try to pull off

[MoonRiver]

6. Totally agree. dimson is what he is. No amount of coaching or drugs

will change that.

[cali]

8. Alas,

I believe all the twerp has to do is refrain from drooling, be ever so marginally better than he was last week, and the MSM will give it to him The soft bigotry of low expectations really sucks.

[DancingBear]

15. I respectfully disagree

Low expectations will not feed the bulldog in this case - Bush MUST be what he is totally incapable of being - someone in command of the issues, and with cogent points at his disposal.

He can't do it - he just can't. Kerry, however, can and will, forcing Bush to either a) try and keep up (highly unlikely) or b) result to name calling, thus allowing Kerry free reign to effortlessly stick the knife in. Bush won't even know he's bleeding until he falls comatose to the floor.

[KBlagburn]

11. Tomorrow is domestic not foreign

None of those issues will be discussed. The 2nd debate is domestic issues. They have already said anyone asking a question that is not relevant to this specific debate will have their mic turned off. These will have to wait till the final debate, which will happen.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. i hope bush talks about foreign policy and gets booed (nt)

we should tell him the debate's saturday night and he won't show up....

[Renew Deal]

16. Tomorrow is both

They will discuss Iraq and FP as long as someone asks a question about it.

[speedoo]

17. No, the third debate is on domestic issues.

Tomorrow night is anything goes. Foreign policy, domestic, whatever.

[DancingBear]

18. I believe tomorrow is a mix of the two

The third debate is domestic only. If I am wrong, I stand corrected.

[speedoo]

12. Don't underestimate the effect of spin.

He was so bad last week that all he needs to do is string a couple of sentences together and keep from looking like an idiot and tweety and co. will declare him the clear winner.

[DancingBear]

19. And the 3 people who watch Tweety will go "damn!"

:) :)

[greenman3610]

20. Tomorrow is the best chance

to watch Bush bust a nut.


Kerry totally has his number.

The Plame thing: "Your Father would not have rested with a traitor in the
midst of the white house!"

"your Father would not have baited opponents by saying "bring it on"

The First President Bush would never have allowed
this unconscionable deficit..

I'm getting some chips and salsa. should be GREAT.

[emulatorloo]

21. Let's not get over-confident - it is unbecoming

But let me say that *****************Kerry Rocks**************************** in town hall format, and punditry will be surprised by that as they expect the "charm" and "people-skills" of GWB to shine through. So I am pretty damn excited.

[KittyWampus]

22. Yup, Kerry Keeps It At 6th Grade Level. Looks Firm & In Control

he's got it, hopefully.