Warning open this thread with care, Bush response to last weeks debate.

[gordianot]

NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO SENATOR KERRY AT THE DEBATE THIS IS THE BUSH RESPONSE HE COULD NOT ARTICULATE. I FIND ALL OF THIS VERY LAME EASY TO COUNTER.

I AM ON A MAILING LIST FROM REPUBLICANS SET UP BY REPUBLICAN RELATIVES. HOPEFULLY MOST DUER'S WILL NOT GET THIS DRIVEL BUT IT NEEDS TO BE READ SO WE CAN (EASILY) REFUTE IT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE IN FOR THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS. I CAN COUNTER EACH STATEMENT I TOOK OUT THE EMAIL ADDRESSES.

IF YOU HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER.

SUCK IT IN HERE WE GO


My opponent continues his pattern of confusing contradictions. After voting for the war, after saying my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power was the right decision, he now says it was all a mistake. But asked, does that mean our troops are dying for a mistake? He said, no. You can't have it both ways. He can't say it's a mistake and not a mistake. He can't be for getting rid of Saddam Hussein when things look good, and against it when he's falling in the polls. He can't claim terrorists are pouring across the border into Iraq, yet at the same time try to claim that Iraq is somehow a diversion from the war on terror. The American President must speak clearly, and when he speaks, must mean what he says.

This is just one example of how my opponent's weak, vacillating views would make for a more dangerous world. In these final days of the campaign, will you make one more contribution to the Republican National Committee so they can help me and the Republican team get our message to the American people?


Americans are seeing fundamental differences between my opponent and me -- differences I believe are crucial to America's national security. First of all, there's a big difference when it comes to supporting our troops in harm's way. When America puts our troops in combat, I believe they deserve the best training, the best equipment, and the full support of our government.

Last week my opponent said our troops deserve better. They certainly deserve better than they got from my opponent and the liberals in Congress when they voted to send them to war, then voted against funding our troops in combat.

You may remember my opponent's quote when they asked him about his vote. He said: "Well, I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

During the course of this campaign when they asked him to explain the vote, he said the famous quote and then went on to say he was "proud" of his vote. He said the whole thing was a "complicated" matter. And then he gave yet another explanation of his vote. He said, well, it was a "protest" vote.

In the debate last week, he said he had made a mistake in how he talked about that vote. But the mistake wasn't what he said; the mistake was what he did. When we put American troops in harm's way, they certainly deserve better than to have a candidate for President use them as a protest.

We will never use our troops as a protest. We will give them everything they need to do the job. They deserve nothing less.

Will you stand with us?



During his 20 years as a senator, my opponent has not had many accomplishments. Of the hundreds of bills he has submitted, only five became law - and one of them was ceremonial. But to be fair, he has earned a special distinction in the Congress. The nonpartisan National Journal analyzed his record and named John Kerry the most liberal member of the United States Senate. When the competition includes Ted Kennedy, that's really saying something.

It wasn't easy for my opponent to become the single most liberal member of the Senate. He earned that title by voting for higher taxes, and more regulation, and more junk lawsuits, and more government control over your life. And that sets up a real difference in this campaign. My opponent is a tax-and-spend liberal; I am a compassionate conservative. My opponent wants to empower government; I want to use government to empower citizens. My opponent seems to think that all the wisdom is found in Washington, D.C.; I trust the wisdom of the American people.

Our differences are also clear on issues of national security. The most important question for voters in this election: Who can lead this war against terror to victory?

My opponent has a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of this war against terror, and he has no plan to win in Iraq. The cornerstone of my opponent's plan for Iraq is to convene a summit. I've been to a lot of summits. Since I've been your President, I've been honored to be at summits throughout the world. But I've never been to a meeting that has deposed a tyrant or brought a terrorist to justice. The way to defeat the terrorists is to stay on the offense, attacking them abroad so we do not have to fight them here at home.

My opponent last week claimed he can work with our allies, yet, he said those who are standing with us are not a part of a "genuine" coalition. He earlier called them a coalition of the "coerced" and "bribed," and dismissed their sacrifices as "window dressing."

You cannot lead by pushing away the allies who are already with us, who are sacrificing along with our soldiers. You can't expect any support for a cause you have called a "mistake," a "grand diversion," or the "wrong war" at the "wrong time." The way to lead this coalition is not to be disdainful or dismissive. The way to lead this coalition to victory is to be clear about our thinking, grateful for their sacrifices, and resolute in our determination to achieve victory.

Let me say one last thing about my opponent. Perhaps his most disturbing recent comment was when he said that America has to pass a "global test" before we can use our troops to defend ourselves. He wants our national security decisions subjected to the approval of a foreign government.

I will continue to work with our allies. I'll work with the international community. But I will never submit America's national security to a "global test." Decisions about America's national security will be made in the Oval Office, not in foreign capitals.

Can we count on you to show your support one last time before this election?


Four years ago, I had the honor of traveling this country with Vice President Cheney and other Republican leaders and we made a pledge. We said if you gave us the chance to serve, we would uphold the honor and the dignity of the offices we sought. With your hard work, with your help, we will do so for four more years.

May God bless you, and may God bless our great country.

[NightOwwl]

1. He got one thing right.

"Americans are seeing fundamental differences between my opponent and me."

Bush is a lying scumbag, Kerry is a man of honor.

[rfranklin]

2. What a freakin' moran!

Honor and dignitude, indeed!

[pinkpops]

3. Why does Junior call Kerry "My opponent" ?

[Bluebear]

4. In order to denigrate him. I wish Kerry would return the favor

and say it a million times, Bush would blow his stack.

[karlrschneider]

9. Or he could say "that fellow over there who got half a million fewer votes

than Gore..."
:evilgrin:

[karlrschneider]

5. He can't pronounce "nuclear"..."carry" is about as tough.

:eyes:

[NEDem]

7. Proves * can use big words.

He's got 3 or 4 multi syllable words he uses over and over to show he 'done some of that book lernin'

[gordianot]

11. I doubt he wrote any of this.

[Spiffarino]

10. Faint praise

He wouldn't call him "Senator" because that implies something dignified or important. He uses the sterile "my opponent" to belittle him without seeming too obvious. His dickhead dad did the same thing, and I'll bet ol' Prescott "Nazi-builder" Bush did, too.

[Cha]

6. Thanks for all the warnings!

I didn't read..just skimmed..I've heard enough from bush the last week to know what's in it for the Koolaid Drinkers.

We are in a "Bold Move" to take back our Democracy!

[pfitz59]

8. "Staffer supplies Bush* with rebuttal...."

"Inarticulate Pretzeldent signs speechwriter's response to debate. Suggests verbage is his own." Don't buy it. Our "C-" CINC couldn't begin to phrase such a document. He's a pathetic loser, a drag on civilization.....

[xxqqqzme]

12. 'we give them everything....

they deserve nothing less????

Well, his Marine's mother says differently
My Son, a United States Marine
By Della T. Austin
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/100804V.shtml

"...Before he left Camp LeJuene, my side of the family and his wife had to get money together because my son had to spend over $300 to buy things he was "REQUIRED" to have in his gear. If he were missing one thing, he would not have been allowed to come home on his Block Leave to see his family before being deployed to Iraq! Almost $100 of this money had to be spent on a third set of "new and improved" Digital Cammies. He was lucky! He had been issued one set and had already bought a second set. Some of the Marines were not even issued one set so they spent almost $300 on just their Cammies. Money is being deducted from their pay for "equipment". My son has never really been sure WHAT equipment, but he paid for it.
I was enraged when I found out that the Flack Jacket (their bullet proof vests) were the woodland version, the ones that are supposed to blend in with TREES! No one in Sierra Battery was issued Desert Flack Jackets! These marines will look like a group of trees in the middle of the desert!...

...Support our Military? Why is the government not fully supporting and protecting our Military? Issue everything they need or do not send them until they have it! I was not fortunate enough to have been born RICH. I have to scrounge to help my son. My family, his wife, and her family got together to help my son purchase everything he was "required" to have. I have met other Marines and their families who are in the same situation. Apparently our "Commander and Chief" meant SEND YOUR MONEY TO SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN AND RELATIVES, because the government is unable to do so. This administration is NOT PUTTING THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS!!

This is just one reason why I will vote for Senator Kerry! I believe that under his command, all or our Military personnel will be treated fairly and equally. I also believe that he will have a PLAN to bring ALL our children home! I also support Senator Kerry because I believe if the need arises to call again on our Military, President Kerry will not send our children into situations without everything they need to protect themselves and their lives!..."