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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:32 AM
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:33 AM
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1. According to Reuters
96 K (less than expected)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:34 AM
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If you clickon the Full Story link it take you to a story about
the blasts in Egypt.
WTF
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:48 AM
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13. Yes, that is what I got, too. Here is the link and the story.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:34 AM
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2. Where did they pull those #'s???
...out of their ass? :wtf:
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:35 AM
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3. it's gone from msnbc
Hear it on today show...96,000
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:36 AM
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:03 AM
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20. TRUMAD picked it up. It's on another thread.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:36 AM
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4. 200,000 last quarter. . . . BUAHAHAHAHA
Sorry, but you need damn near that many per month just to allow for new entries into the job market. You need that many per month again to make up for the ones that have been lost in the past 4 years.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:36 AM
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5. 96 K is September ...
MSGOP mentions the quarter.

What I find odd is that the LARGE headline says 300,000 New Jobs, but the first line says 200,000.

Hmmm.
Cheers
Drifter
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:39 AM
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7. Unbelievable
What happened to the whole thing where the US population expands so that you need to create 200k+ jobs a MONTH just to keep up with the population. Basically you need to create around 2.5 million new jobs every year in order to keep up with population growth. Thats without losing any jobs, but positive growth. Therefore you need around 600k to 700k at least per quarter just to keep up with population.

300k New Jobs!
Boost For Bush!

The NYT and Reuters are right. 300k jobs were created, and the numbers per month are dropping to under 100k (96k) new jobs created in September.

See...that means that in the past quarter effectively 300k more people want to work but can't, and this past month it's over 100k of that.

MSNBC should be ashamed of themselves. This is obvious to anyone who looks at the information, so to use this NEGATIVE story as if it's good for Bush...well it's just astounding.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:41 AM
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8. Oh man, this is a freaking disaster for Bush
Could the report have been much worse?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:43 AM
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10. Of course it could've...
If it reported a job loss we could've proclaimed the election all but over.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:42 AM
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9. Screen shot
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:47 AM
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12. Send this Media Matters and Buzzflash.
Thanks for keeping this from going down the memory hole.
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:51 AM
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16. thanks!
Thanks for capturing this photo. I am OUTRAGE by MSNBC's behaviour.

What are we up against, folks?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:51 AM
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:24 AM
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22. I did a little while ago for another thread:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:44 AM
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11. MSNBC should be called to account for this major gaffe!
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:48 AM
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14. All I can say is
:wtf:
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secular_warrior Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:51 AM
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15. They changed it - put in AP story
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 07:51 AM by secular_warrior
US Payrolls grew modestly in September
Employers added only 96,000 jobs, less than expected


The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Companies added 96,000 jobs to their payrolls in September, fewer than economists forecast for the last employment report before Election Day, highlighting a modest pace of hiring that has become an issue in President Bush’s bid for re-election.

more..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6205119/
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:52 AM
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18. Now they're saying "in a blow to Bush"
:evilgrin:

Modest payroll growth
In a blow to President Bush, the U.S. economy created only 96,000 new jobs in September, fewer than economists had predicted. • FULL STORY

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:55 AM
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19. CNN is telling the truth for once. What gives?
5 minutes ago it was a 'side' story. Now it's headlined on the front page.

September job growth weaker

Gain slows from August, misses economists' forecasts; jobless rate holds at 5.4%.
October 8, 2004: 8:45 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - U.S. employers added 96,000 jobs in September while the unemployment rate stayed unchanged, according to a government report Friday that came in weaker than Wall Street expectations.

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http://money.cnn.com/2004/10/08/news/economy/jobless_september/index.htm?cnn=yes
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:20 AM
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21. GOP's favorite job report, the household survey, shows 585000 jobs lost
Household Jobs show disaster-labor force drops 1 million, job loss of 585K

The GOP's favorite DOL jobs number, the Household survey number, shows bigger Job disaster than shown in the anemic 96,000 jobs gain in the payroll survey jobs number. The Household Survey reports 201,000 lost jobs in September since 139,681,000 were "seasonal adjusted" employed in Aug less 139,480,000 of Seasonal adjusted folks Employed in Sept., and that is a drop of 201,000 jobs. If you prefer numbers that are not seasonally adjusted, then 140,226,000 less 139,641,000, or 585,000 jobs were lost in Sept.

And that Steady 5.4% Unemployment rate is based on folks no longer being in the labor pool and therefore not counted as unemployed. The seasonal adjusted change is from 147,704,000 looking for work or employed in August to 147,483,000 looking for work or employed in Sept, or 221,000 folks dropped out. If you like non-seasonally adjusted numbers, then 148,166,000 less 147,186,000, or a huge 980,000 folks stopped looking for work or being employed in Sept.

NEARLY ONE MILLION FOLKS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK OR BEING EMPLOYED IN SEPTEMBER!!!!





http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsatabs.htm

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Series Id: LNS12000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 138566 138301 138298 138576 138772 139031 139660 139681 139480



Series Id: LNU02000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 136924 137384 137691 138423 138867 139861 140700 140226 139641



Series Id: LNS11000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146863 146471 146650 146741 146974 147279 147856 147704 147483


Series Id: LNU01000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146068 146154 146525 146260 146659 148478 149217 148166 147186


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PAYROLL SURVEY 96,000 NEW JOBS IN SEPTEMBER

Series Id: CES0000000001Seasonally AdjustedSuper Sector: Total nonfarmIndustry: Total nonfarmNAICS Code: N/AData Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 130194 130277 130630 130954 131162 131258 131343 131471(p) 131567(p)

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:27 AM
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23. Screen shot
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