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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:51 AM
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96,000? Only 96,000? ONLY 96,000?!?!
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 09:36 AM by MallRat
96,000?!?!?!

Toast.

-MR
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:52 AM
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1. toast...burnt toast
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:54 AM
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2. don't forget the downward revisions of August.... "French Toast"
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:55 AM
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3. lol
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:56 AM
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4. The Rug Was Just Pulled Out From Under Him Right Before the Debate
He's going to claim the economy is strong and gaining jobs tonight and Kerry is going to CREAM him as OUT OF TOUCH W/ REALITY AND LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD!!!!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:58 AM
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5. It'll be a direct hit, too, because Junior doesn't read
the newspapers or any reports he's given. Think he'll be briefed on this before tonight? By a Kamikaze aid, maybe. ;)
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:02 AM
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7. Yeah. His briefing will consist of "We're creating jobs! The economy...
... is growing!"

That's about it.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:21 PM
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14. he will just say they were "guessing" LOL nt
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:01 AM
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6. Don't you need about 140,000 just to keep up with population growth?
Paul Krugman has pointed this out on one or two occassions, I think.

Kerry should be repeating the following over and over until November 2nd:

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."

"The Bush administration is the FIRST administration since THE GREAT DEPRESSION to preside over a net loss in jobs."
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:05 AM
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8. Without Huge Deficits and Low Interest Rates
we'd be in a recession all over again. We're piling up debt and it's not even creating jobs or a hot economy.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:42 AM
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9. Even this number will be revised down by Thanksgiving.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 10:43 AM by stopbush
You can take 20-30% off the 96,000 right now, if you'd like.

Pathetic. One assumes the bushies goosed this number with all their might and they *still* couldn't break 6 figures.

We shouldn't forget the fact that they inherited a global depression, a world war and that invasion of Martians from the Clenis...
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:59 AM
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10. The GOP's favorite jobs report-the household survey, has 585000 jobs lost
Household Jobs show disaster-labor force drops 1 million, job loss of 585K

The GOP's favorite DOL jobs number, the Household survey number, shows bigger Job disaster than shown in the anemic 96,000 jobs gain in the payroll survey jobs number. The Household Survey reports 201,000 lost jobs in September since 139,681,000 were "seasonal adjusted" employed in Aug less 139,480,000 of Seasonal adjusted folks Employed in Sept., and that is a drop of 201,000 jobs. If you prefer numbers that are not seasonally adjusted, then 140,226,000 less 139,641,000, or 585,000 jobs were lost in Sept.

And that Steady 5.4% Unemployment rate is based on folks no longer being in the labor pool and therefore not counted as unemployed. The seasonal adjusted change is from 147,704,000 looking for work or employed in August to 147,483,000 looking for work or employed in Sept, or 221,000 folks dropped out. If you like non-seasonally adjusted numbers, then 148,166,000 less 147,186,000, or a huge 980,000 folks stopped looking for work or being employed in Sept.

NEARLY ONE MILLION FOLKS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK OR BEING EMPLOYED IN SEPTEMBER!!!!





http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsatabs.htm

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Series Id: LNS12000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 138566 138301 138298 138576 138772 139031 139660 139681 139480



Series Id: LNU02000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 136924 137384 137691 138423 138867 139861 140700 140226 139641



Series Id: LNS11000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146863 146471 146650 146741 146974 147279 147856 147704 147483


Series Id: LNU01000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146068 146154 146525 146260 146659 148478 149217 148166 147186


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PAYROLL SURVEY 96,000 NEW JOBS IN SEPTEMBER

Series Id: CES0000000001Seasonally AdjustedSuper Sector: Total nonfarmIndustry: Total nonfarmNAICS Code: N/AData Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 130194 130277 130630 130954 131162 131258 131343 131471(p) 131567(p)

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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:18 PM
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11. 221,000 unemployed stopped looking in Sept.? WOW.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 01:18 PM by MallRat
Someone noted that the "real" unemployment rate in the U.S., which would include people who have given up and dropped out of the job market, is well over 8%.

-MR
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:20 PM
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12. Expect: "Almost 100,000 new jobs added just in the last month"!
It sounds like a lot in a soundbyte.

It'll be up to Kerry to set the record straight.

david
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:21 PM
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13. Is this the job number??
They were expecting 150k!
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 01:52 PM
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15. If I hear one more cable news person
say that "both campaigns are going to try and spin this," I am going to puke.

There is no goddamn spin here. Economists predicted 150 to 200K new jobs and there were 96K. As a result, the market is responding negatively. In addition, population growth alone requires that there be more tha 100K -- making this effectively job loss.

This is not spin. It is BAD news for the WH. Period.
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