Bombtrack
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:35 PM
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What is the GOP defense of the 2000 Florida heavily black voter purge? |
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I have actually never heard a response to this charge from the other side.
Is there one?
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:38 PM
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1. I'd like an answer to that question.... |
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:39 PM
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2. "It's a Democrat lie"? |
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I mean the media doesn't report it, and most repubs I talk to don't think it happened.
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:44 PM
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The only thing I've heard on that is that they purged criminals... of course, maybe they did purge a few criminals, but out of how many actually purged?
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:40 PM
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21. Something like 90 thousand. |
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:40 PM
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Purge, purge you say? What purge is that?
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:41 PM
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4. Well it has to be Clinton's fault |
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Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 03:42 PM by Bluzmann57
I mean everything else is. This is a story that needed a lot of pub, but will rarely see daylight anymore. After all, Kobe Bryant, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson aren't involved in it. Only the whole damn country, so what does it matter?
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:42 PM
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5. Essentially, it can be summed up in one word: |
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:42 PM
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6. Well the NAACP sued, and the state of Fla. settled.... |
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the media damn well should be reporting this story....
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:46 PM
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9. A consent decree, defined: |
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"We did nothing wrong and we promise never to do nothing wrong again".
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:56 PM
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:17 PM
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There was a lot of legal gobbledygook involved, of course, but that was the bottom line.
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:19 PM
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17. The NAACP should have kept the heat on them...that's a lame outcome |
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:22 PM
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19. Yeah, well, consider the court system. |
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The same folks who selected GWB would have eventually ruled on any lawsuit, so it was probably the best that could be had, under the circumstances... :shrug:
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:27 PM
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Sun Jan-11-04 05:29 PM
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23. and the state agreed to have the problem corrected... AFTER the 2002 |
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elections (in time for Jeb!) Would be curious to see if there is any press checking to see if this has been corrected.
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:43 PM
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7. Yes, God spoke to them. |
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He said GWB must lead my chosen nation.
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:51 PM
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There is not a blessed thing on the face of this earth we can do about the purged lists now and that is not what is important.
What is important is this. Have those people who were purged since reregistered or found their names back on the roles by some other means?
That is what counts, because you may rest assured that those who have been denied the vote will be at the polls next time, its just a question if they will be denied again.
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Sun Jan-11-04 03:53 PM
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11. I know the Sharpton campaign... |
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... has been HEAVILY involved in registering and RE-registering in Florida (and elsewhere), and that they use the 'purged list' as one reference tool. We all owe Al for that, if nothing else.
:)
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Sun Jan-11-04 05:03 PM
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22. The Illegally-Disenfrancised Voters Stay Disenfranchised Until 2006 |
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from what I read. It was "too hard" to get them back on the rolls in time for this year's elections.
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Sun Jan-11-04 05:32 PM
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24. that was the excuse in the 2002 elections... it was to be corrected |
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before the next elections after 2002 (eg 2004). Since I believe that was part of the court order. If you have read that they are stalling - can you remember where you saw this - it should be pushed. Start framing it as a Civil Rights Act violation.
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:07 PM
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13. how I would fix the problem |
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I would have black voters at the polls accompanied by ARMED escorts provided by civil rights organizations on election day 2004. These conservatives need to be shown that liberals are not afraid of using force if necesssary to defend their freedoms.
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:08 PM
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The same as the corporate media's response.
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:15 PM
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15. What actually happened |
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Florida passed a law saying that the voter registration list should be purged of those who did not have a right to vote.
They hired a company (with connections to Jeb) who agreed to get them a list of felons to remove.
Among other things, this company sent them a list of 10,000 people who were arrested for misdemeaners in Texas. THey removed anyone who had the same name and birthdate as anyone on this list.
They received a list of released felons from several other states who had the right to vote in those states. THey removed anyone who had the same name and birthdate as anyone on this list.
Thus they illegally revoked the right to vote of these people.
There is more, but this indicates enough.
Black people are overly represented as felons, and as misdemeaner committers in Texas. THus Florida was able to remove a large number of people who would vote against Dubya from the voting roles.
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Sun Jan-11-04 04:19 PM
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18. great summary of the crime! |
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