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[cybildisobedience]

1. will we see all the talking heads on GOP-TV

now retract their bogus analysis of "security moms" now that this new poll undermines that supposition?

of course not -- the polls only count when they favor Bush...-

[rumguy]

2. Do you believe it Pete

or are you just throwing bones to the dogs again...

[liberal_in_GA]

3. This is an important point to hit

in our post-debate LTTEs...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. Bush leads Kerry 2 to 1 on being wrong

That's the message of that sticking to positions stat if you can make it stick.

[Neecy]

5. huh?

Gee, I've never seen a question regarding 'sticking to positions' in any national poll before. They're digging deep to try and find some positive category for BunnyBoy.

The question should be along the lines of, 'which candidate is better at sticking to positions, even if those positions are wrong?'

[demwing]

15. How about: this question:

"Which candidate do you think is more likely to stubbornly refuse to admit his own errors?"

[progressivebydesign]

6. As I've been saying for weeks.. the MEAN stuff is gettin' old!

Bush and his attack poodles forget that you can push that macho asshole stuff TOO far. ANd they have.. Congragulations to Karl Rove for being such a complete evil asshole that he gave Kerry an advantage. ha, ha, ha.

[speedoo]

7. This is GREAT news.

Kerry is more likeable, has restored his lead among women, and has a big edge on all the issues.

The only thing he has to do is address the "sticks by his decisions" (flip-flop) issue. He just needs to keep banging away on the "stubborn=failure/incompetent/mislead" attack to minimize that shrub advantage.

If he can overcome that issue we will have the landslide we all want, IMO.

[napi21]

8. Testosterone levels gatting that male support!

Men always have been attracted by the cowboy image!

I'm amused by the big lead in shrub more likely to stick to his positions! If I were asked that question, I would have answered yes for shrub too! I however don't think it's an asset in his case. Sticking to your position when you're heading the wrong road only gets you more lost!!!

[sandnsea]

9. But why?

I keep asking and I can't get a man to answer me. Not to mention, why can women see through Bush's false bravado and men can't? Men, seriously, what is the deal with this!!!

Oh, btw, Hi Pete! :hi:

Get back to work!! :)

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[sandnsea]

16. Actually

I've been wondering where you were. Good to see you taking a break and having a little fun. :)

A side note, I still say Oregon is locked. I've actually spoken to people in my little town who are thrilled to have moved to such a liberal place. Haha! They damned sure wouldn't have said that in 2000!!! I was even contacted by a Moveon coordinator, in a town of 7,000!! It really is looking good. Hugs all around!

[klook]

10. Cowboy in Wonderland

`Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?' (Alice)

`That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said the Cat.

`I don't much care where--' said Alice.

`Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat.

`--so long as I get SOMEWHERE,' Alice added as an explanation.

--Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll

[Career Prole]

11. "Bush is now up 16 points among males, 51% Bush, 35% Kerry..."

I weep for my gender.

Not to imply, of course, that a manly man would ever weep for anything short of a Red Sox World Championship.
I have never gotten used to the idea that a majority would find that clown likeable. They've dressed him up and taught him a couple of tricks, sure, but you can do that with bears...or even pigs (ya listenin', Limbaugh?)
A chimp on roller skates might have been likeable for ten minutes or so on The Ed Sullivan Show but not for four years straight!
And with the keys to the White House, yet?
Over the course of four long years only other simians could retain an interest in a one-trick chimpanzee.
The women of DU will probably be quick to point out that this could explain the gender disparity in that "likeability poll". :eyes:

[WI_DEM]

17. lots of undecideds though

it will be interesting to see how they cut. If they go more than 2-1 for Kerry (as undecideds often do) he will do ok with males.

[no name no slogan]

20. Dems haven't won the white male vote since Johnson

We've always relied on the women and non-white males to win elections, even before Johnson, too.

White males are now a minority in this country. And, just like any minority, we should court their votes, but not to the detriment of our support with other groups.

Now, if our support among women or black men and women was below Dubya's, THEN I'd be worried!

:)

[JPace]

12. Kerry has also been going on to a lot of talk shows....

this is where his VERY likable personality
can be seen in debth by women. His sincerity
and wisdom shine through in a more relaxed
setting.

[gatorboy]

13. Considering how the truth about the WMD's has finally come out.

How can anyone spin that "sticking to his positions." is a good thing?

[West Coast Democrat]

18. I guess I'm luckily I found a husband who's a Democrat....

considering most men are Republicans!

[BlueNomad]

19. Women usually...

decide later than men and make up a disproportionate percentage of the undecided. They also have alot of health, education and social concerns....I have always and continue to expect John Kerry to do better among women than Bush. According to pollist Anna Greenberg that whole security mom thing is the same group of married white women who ALWAYS vote Repuke anyway...

As articulate, intelligent, composed and sensitive as Kerry appears towards his wife and daughters, that alone would render him a second and final look.....And no offense but as a mom with a young daughter--even if I wasn't the political junkie that I am-- I look at the daughters each man has been involved in rearing and am completely turned off by those beer slugging dopes of Bush's...

I am sure appearances on the talk shows has helped him as well...that guy has spanned BET, Daily Show, Regis, The View & Dr. Phil.

[bush equals idiot]

21. I guess they like Bush sticking to his position.

What they aren't realizing is that it's the missionary position. And they're on the bottom on their stomach.

[polmaven]

22. Ummm..

On being "likeable," a key strength for Bush in 2000, Bush now trails Kerry, 70% - 65%. (Bush had a slight 4 point lead on likeability before the debate.) Bush still leads Kerry by a wide margin, 81% - 42% on "sticking to his positions."

70%-65% = 135%
81%-42% = 123%

:shrug: Huh?

[uhhuh]

24. They ask the question

of both candidates.

They don't ask who is more likable. They ask if the word "likable" would apply to x candidate and ask for each. This is how the result is generated.

[polmaven]

25. Oh.

Thanks.. I see...(I think)

[PROGRESSIVE1]

23. Well, how could you not like him after *'s horrible performance last week?

[Gabi Hayes]

26. tweety show has ODonnell praising chimp's tremendous

likeability

they will IGNORE this

the farthest they've gone is to say that Kerry has done well in the EIGTHY townhalls he's done, versus the NINETEEN that dumbo has done

Kerry's were largely in semihostile surroundings, as well, during the primary, which makes a big diff

they did mention that, but concentrated on dumbo's huge PEOPLE skills

it's beyond disgusting

[Bucky]

27. But naturally! . . . . Everyone just LOVES a winner ! !

Except Democrats, of course.