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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:06 PM
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OFFICIAL BUSH-KERRY DEBATE THREAD #12
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 PM
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This is great!
I'm uber proud of John tonight! It's all over for Bush!
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 PM
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1. Kyoto would have cost jobs
wonder how many jobs they'll be when we're underwater Chimpy?
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 PM
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2. *s Earpiece: You're on camera..write..WRITE..like your life depends on it!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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8. Earpiece???
I haven't seen one...
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 PM
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3. Yes, Kerry is SO killing bush!
He's better on style and substance! Whoever said Bush was good at connecting with people was dead wrong! Deep outsourcing? Bah!
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billkurtmeyer Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 PM
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4. * is not showing up for #3 - I repeat, he is not showing up! no way
no how. They will ratchet up a major terror alert in desperation - but it is too late - it is over - done - finished - you can stick a fork in chimpy!
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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66. I've got $100 that says he will
remember, he can't handle bad news so all will tell him he kicked ass. He's too stupid to know otherwise, so he'll show.
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billkurtmeyer Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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83. Good point - * is the bubble boy!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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5. Hydrogen economy- A HUGE MISTAKE.
We are not ready for a hydrogen economy. He's full of shit!
Again, I am involved with the industry. It would be far worse, right now, if we went to hydrogen. FAR WORSE pollution.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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6. What energy plan? Cheney won't tell us what it is!
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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7. At Work & My Link To The Debate Is DU, so TELL ME -
Is this as bad for Bush as it appears, or are you guys just naturally disposed to Kerry?
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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Bush is doing better without his earpiece, but thinks shouting is winning
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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17. Chimp is getting his ass peeled!
No shit.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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21. Bush supporters could make an argument for Bush
He's calmed down some and the issues are the focus now. But he blew up earlier, he's whining, and he's manic.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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24. george was TERRIBLE in the first 45 min
he's not quite as bad right now. Oh wait....he just went nuts again.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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kerry definitely doing better
bush isn't drowning as badly as last time, other than a weird meltdown where he broke the rules and filibustered. but kerry is routinely scoring points on content and getting stronger and stronger as he goes
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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36. I'm listening mainly and watching a little on c-span.org
He really sounds frantic.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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37. Well, when it comes to Bush,
these words keep coming to mind:

"ludicrous," "unprincipled," "dishonest," "orwellian," "clueless," "hollow-skulled," "embarrassing humiliation for the nation," and other less friendly descriptors.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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62. add "not credible"
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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Does Bush know who Orwell is? Guess there were Cliff's Notes at Yale.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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9. I'm loving this format on DU....I don't have to get angry and...
...throw stuff at the tv when Numb-Nuts is babbling.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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19. Did I miss something?
Did Bush just accuse Kerry ot being against medical tort reform?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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Thank God (or Skinner/Elad) for DU
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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72. And EarlG, too!
Thanks for a great place to express ourselves.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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53. I have the same problem.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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10. "Let me incent you to go on the government????"
:wtf:
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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11. he's doing the small business will be taxed point...jump on it KErry
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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12. self delete
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM by Ravenswood
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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13. Uh...Uh....Uh...
Shameful.
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panbanger Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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14. Bush is STILL yelling his answers lmao
he is really helpless when left on his own for over 10 minutes, isn't he?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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15. I wish they would mention 45 million americans are uninsured.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:08 PM
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16. He got crosseyed when Kerry said "oil".
GO KERRY!

You rock. You rule.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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18. AWOL: "incent you to go to government" what?? yet another bushism??
is anyone keeping track of these brand new words?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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20. Kerry says..... Bush owns a small timber company......
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telex54 Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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26. He looks like a vulture...
the way he holds the mic and arches his back... scary.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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35. i don't get it either
expect it to be the anti-kerry buzzword on monday!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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60. FratBoy has called for logging in all of the major remaining forests...
...clear conflict of interest.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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50. The Patriot Act. Bush says our rights aren't being taken down.....LIE
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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22. * is SO unpresidential
"I own a timber company?"
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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23. one liner of the night
hydrogen generated automobile??

I think we have the I invented the INTERNET line of the night@!!!!!!?????









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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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40. Yeah, what's that all about???!
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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25. Need some wood??? bwahahaha
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will work 4 food Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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31. That was almost funny
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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51. yes turn my head arround
...need some wood?? waht kind of shit is that?
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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Bush has decided to do stand-up comedy, now!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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41. And he isn't funny!
He should get the hook!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 PM
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27. I own a timber company
What a fuckin dork
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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96. he didn't understand what Kerry was saying
Bush is clueless
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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28. What is with that chicken pecking thing? Makes me nuts!
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HarrietBrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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49. Chicken pecking--you've hit that perfectly.
His facial expressions and body language are creepy.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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57. I call it the neck-bobbing thing, and it drives me crazy, too.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM by LibertyChick
Eom.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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29. Medical liability is not the reason health care is going up so fast
Bush and Cheney are small business. Bush is such an idiot.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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30. "Need some wood?"
Holy crap!

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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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56. Talk to Bob Dole about that nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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68. That was awesome with a capital A. n/t
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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Charlie just laughed at Bush
when Chimpie interrupted him yet again...
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dignan27 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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Bush's New Campaign Slogan: Need Some Wood?
WHAT THE HELL?!
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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84. Maybe he can do Viagra commercials in January like Bob Dole
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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32. Sub-chapter S tax cuts translates to
huge tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.....forget the subchapter S bullshit!!!!!
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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33. Is bush offering to show his wood on national TV???
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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45. Showin us that love
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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46. Bring it on. NO. Wait. Don't.
:)
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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69. He has none to show...
:)
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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Beavis says " Want some WOOD!!"
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ezekiel333 Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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61. Was it "want" or "need"
Either way it was beyond belief.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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34. LEt Kerry finish his rebuttle!
Cripes, Kerry was just turning as Bush jumped up... what a lousy attmept to dodge the question.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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38. This is soo very very nice-----
Kerrys got the facts.
He's kept his composure.
WSJ---

Timber Company---

???

S Corporation-----


He better be able to cash the check that his ass just wrote regarding that Timber Co.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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39. MONKEY BUSINESS
from chief monkey. So sick of it.
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KPN08 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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42. Redsox
Was there a Redsox comment? I missed it! What did he say?
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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67. That Bush is like the Red Sox. A Loser :)
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KPN08 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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94. Yes..
Redsox suck. Now what was the comment ?? Every vote in my family depends on it!!!!;)
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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43. YES!!!!!!!!
Patriot Act is being abused!!!!!! THIS IS A GREAT POINT FOR KERRY TO POUNCE ON!!!
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:10 PM
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44. last questioner seemed like he was loosing it
wtf did he say? i liked the "watered down rights'
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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47. "Terrorist fighters?" Ugh. n/t
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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48. What's a terrorist fighter??? n/t
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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52. Patriot act
your rights aren't being taken away. I hope you don't think that!! It just shows HOW out of touch he is!!!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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54. Gibson is letting * have the last word almost every time.
I wonder how much time each candidate has had? I think Kerry is getting shortchanged.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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55. wtf was that? timber company
someone explain --this is moving too fast...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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76. Kerry used an example- tax avoidance
Ie. Bush had a timber company that made 86 bucks, and was considered a small business.
He was just .....out of time...
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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88. FratBoy has called for logging in all of the major remaining forests...
...a clear conflict of interest since he OWNS a timber company.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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58. Maybe HIS freakin rights aren't being watered down
Jesus!!!

MINE ARE!!!!

He obviously hasn't been worked over by U.S. Customs at an airport lately...
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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80. Hey $hrub, John Edwards has a Subchapter S Corp...
n/t
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:11 PM
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59. Bush is for our rights?
I guess he didn't read the patriot act...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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63. Bush has lied so much we need a FACT CHECK THREAD....
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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74. This is way to fast for *
Kerry is much more deliberate.
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teach4life Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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86. I can find facts on money he has received from timber companies
but nothing on owning one....
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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64. So 'every tool necessary' includes spying on people who are innocent?
Sorry chimpy, no police state for you!
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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65. "I appreciate that" = I hate that #$%^ question!
anyone else notice that?
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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73. Exactly!
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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"I hope you don't think that" well WE DO..watered down rights
i like the way that sounds
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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70. Were the Lakawana (sp) arrests upheld?
Were those the ones just overturned?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:12 PM
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71. That upstate New York "cell" case has completely fallen apart
I seem to recall. We need a fact check on this.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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93. They were all let go. No case.
It all fell apart.

This should be good in the next couple days.

Say hello to President Kerry! - or "seig Heil" to "der Fuhrer" after he cancels the elections.

That's the only way he's gonna remain in power.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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75. Would be interesting if Kerry could shift this argument toward....
prisoner attitude as related to Abu Ghraib.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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WATCH THE POLLS FREEPERS ARE JUMPING ON THEM NOW!
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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87. Well, we'll take care of them, won't we :) nt
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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77. never let the terrorists change the constitution...NICE
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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now he is really getting excelent!!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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78. Sneak and peek........Spy on churches.... kerry said he voted for it....
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:13 PM
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79. great point from kerry!
That is a direct response to but out the flip-flop bullshit!
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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81. Bush just thought "Oh shit, i'm toast" nt
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telex54 Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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95. nah...
he doesn't have the mental capacity to see that he has been defeated.
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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82. Kerry: "Never let the terrorists change the Constitution!"
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:14 PM
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85. A FUCKING FUNDIE.... adult stem cells.........
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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89. Nice - I share your pain moment!
Great thoughtful pause! I thought Kerry had fucked up, but it turned out great and heartfelt.
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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97. The pause was somewhat awkward
But he recovered from it well.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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90. stem cell question
So this women is a medical expert I take it?
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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98. You guys, I hope the media shills don't even think to say Shrub won this.
There is no way; Kerry has kicked Shrub's ass!
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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91. Stem Cells - Should be entertaining to see Bush on this one. nt
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:15 PM
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92. BIG POINTS for Kerry on the stem cell answer. YESS!!
this issue is a HUGE loser for AWOL
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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100. first big stumble/mumble.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:16 PM
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99. Could you just jump thru the set to get Kerry that word? I hate when that
happens!
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