OFFICIAL BUSH-KERRY DEBATE THREAD #13

[indigo32]

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[funkybutt]

to destroy life to save life is one of the real ethical delimas that exist

[Peanut Gallery]

Isn't that the argument the neocons use to excuse

"collateral damage"? i.e., It's okay to destroy a few (thousand) lives to save a society.

[ProudDad]

the shrub is a great straght man

Dred Scott was about forcibly returning escaped slaves from the free states back to their "owners"...

Fact challenged again.

[Gregorian]

1. Stem cell research- Oh, suddenly Bush cares about life.

What a joker.

[AntiFascist]

2. Did Bush just admit that he endorses the destruction of life?

Kerry argued that stem cell research doesn't require destruction of embryos.

[kitkatrose]

Ah, hell, so potential life means more than living breathing people.

It's the republican way. :eyes:

[da_chimperor]

13. Exactly

My grandma died of parkinsons. I'd gladly trade an embryo for my grandma any day.

[gemlake]

3. Kerry nailed the stem cell question

[cynatnite]

4. shrub taking credit for stem cell research...I'm sick of it!

Clinton was the brains behind that

[funkybutt]

5. BREAKING: Bush against the destruction of life. Hilarity ensues

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

15. Yeah, he considers it to be an "ethical dilemma."

:shrug:

[da_chimperor]

6. Chimpy is both ineloquent and stupid

GO KERRY!

[LearnedHand]

7. Damn! Kerry wavered a bit on the stem cell thing.

Careful, JK. Get comfortable with talking about this "distruction of a life" question!

[aldian159]

8. Kerry kicking on stemp cells

[onager]

14. Fundie plant! "Choose Life"

n/t

[Dudley_DUright]

9. Bush cannot explain

his position on stem cells. Kerry knows what he is talking about.

[kokomo]

10. Bush the great ethicist saves blastulas, but kills Iraqi children

[drscm]

29. How many pregnant Iraqui women lost their embryos, not to mention

their lives.

[acmavm]

Let me make sure you understand....

Arrogant bastard. He probably can't tie his own shoes and he's going to explain stem cell research.

[drscm]

11. To hear *Bush say the word ethics makes me sick! Destroy life...

what does he think he does every day.

[JerseygirlCT]

12. What is this obsession with embryo stem cell life when

he could give a shit about actual life?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. He only cares about Fundie Christian lives.

[onager]

23. Here comes the red meat for the Base

n/t

[LearnedHand]

28. Jesus! Bush just flip-flopped in mid-sentence on the

judge thing.

[sbj405]

16. supreme court

[sbj405]

27. seperation of church and state is now a personal opinion

[givemebackmycountry]

36. DREAD SCOTT?

This guy is out of his mind...

[wolframtarant]

17. Haha...

I'M NOT TELLIN'!

[telex54]

21. he so funny... n/t

[AntiFascist]

18. Bush would choose the most right-wing, bigotted judge he could

find.

[Wilber_Stool]

20. Neither one did very well on stem cells

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. Were you watching the same debate? What channel are you on?

[wabeewoman]

22. I want them all voting for me

What a sick **** he is. I swear, the jokes he makes are not funny.

[Deb]

43. amen n/t

[AFSCME girl]

54. Huge mistake on *' part...

the first thing I thought of was the 2000 Election....

[JerseygirlCT]

24. He's going there on the pledge... oh brother!

[L.A.dweller]

25. Bush needs to sit his ass down

The lights aren't even red for Kerry yet!

[kokomo]

26. Now pandering to the radical religious right

[Kierkegaard]

45. there he goes again.

The stem cell discussion got him wound up to the religious spew...

[onager]

47. HA! "Scalia and Thomas!"

n/t

[Cush]

30. Dred Scott?

[apnu]

31. he blew it on Dred Scott!!!!!

[HarrietBrown]

Proof that he has no freaking idea of what's in the constitution

What a total jerk!

[Logansquare]

52. Give him some props. At least he didn't say "Scott Dredd"

[funkybutt]

32. did he just bring up SLAVERY??

[SemiCharmedQuark]

33. "Constitution says...er....well it doesn't say that!"

[kitkatrose]

Yeah and the constitutions says shit about god,

just like the pledge should, asshat!!

[WI_DEM]

34. Bush quoting "The Dred Scott" Decision!!

[makhno]

35. Haha, Bush the constitutional scholar!

He really shouldn't bring up shit he knows nothing about.

[telex54]

37. legislatoooooooors. n/t

[No2W2004]

38. DRED SCOTT!

what a...........oh gods, I can't come up with a word that expresses my contempt

[smirkymonkey]

40. Dred Scott case?

Now he's really fumbling. Dumb fuck.

[bushisanidiot]

41. AWOL was about to quote the constitution but stopped cuz he doesn't know

what it says!

BWAHAHAHAHA!

[A HERETIC I AM]

60. LOL! i noticed that! He was about to quote a line from the Declaration

of Independence!


What a scholar!

[L.A.dweller]

73. That's the same thing I just said!

He doesn't know what they fuck the constitution says regarding slavery.

[da_chimperor]

42. Is it just me, or was chimpy doing far better when he could spout out

pre-memorized lines? He's really coming across as being the worst public speaker in the history of the world.

[mvd]

55. He's always better then

The town hall format is bringing out the worst in him. I shouldn't have been as nervous as I was.

[da_chimperor]

63. Yeah! He really is terrible. I'm literally cackling with glee! nt

[da_chimperor]

93. So, chimpy's trying to win votes of pregnant women now? nt

[LearnedHand]

56. Ask Bush WHEN the Dred Scott decision took place!

[Kierkegaard]

57. He is notoriously bad when speaking extemporaneously.

What a boob.

[wabeewoman]

67. Maybe but he is

stringing words together somewhat coherantly. And he is working hard to keep from making expressions but he has invented a few new words. Kerry is absolutely wonderful tonight.

[Wind Dancer]

44. Supreme Court Judge!

What did he mean "they are going to be voting for me"?

Election???????????

[Dudley_DUright]

46. Strict constructionist

Bush has no idea what he is talking about. Kerry just brought up the Scalia-Thomas Bush quote.

[Ilsa]

48. He already listed a litmus test: the pledge example.

[Rose Siding]

49. The Constitution says....well that's not what the Constitution says

cop out. He only wants judges whose personal opinions won't interfere with their jobs if he AGREES with the opinions.

[ogradda]

50. lmao DRED SCOTT!!??

n/t

[countmyvote4real]

51. I can't believe he opened himself up on the Constitution and equality.

* wants to amend the Constitution to discriminate.

[mconvente]

68. YES!!!

Separation of Church and State!!! This is what we need! Responsibility is key, but you can't legislate morality!

[ProudDad]

53. ALLRIGHT!!!!

Kerry gets a chance to talk about the court.

[funkybutt]

58. ugh..freeper #2

[ocean girl]

64. They all look so miserable, don't they?

[LizW]

72. Awesome! I can't take what is an article of faith for me

and legislate it for other people...

Perfect.

[givemebackmycountry]

59. TOUCHDOWN!

He fuckin' nailed that supreme court justice appointee question.

[kitkatrose]

61. TAX DOLLARS DON'T SUPPORT ABORTION!!!

Where do people get this shit?

[onager]

70. Thanks John, for supporting us atheists...

We do exist and all...

[Dudley_DUright]

Where did they dredge up all these fundies?

[w13rd0]

Welcome to Missouri...

...we've got LOTS of them...

[makhno]

62. Tough questions - but they do represent what a lot of folks worry about

I'm actually glad Kerry is getting to show that he has thoughts and feelings on these topics.

[eyepaddle]

Solid reply!

point to Kerry.

Lady, you don't get to decide where each one of your tax dollars go. bam!

[telex54]

65. oh no... abortion. n/t

[funkybutt]

66. separation of church and state BIAATCH

[HarrietBrown]

75. CG stinks for putting this up last.

It's gonna let Bush finish strong with his screwed up base.

[bushisanidiot]

69. Kerry's Supreme Court Justice answer just won him the debate, IMHO

it showed that he is a fair and honest man.

when he said boy george wanted more conservative judges in the courts, they showed him nodding his head in agreement with kerry. AWOL doesn't give a SHIT about being fair or about the country. he just wants his party to win.

[Tatiana]

71. Kerry handling abortion question VERY well.

He comes off as very honest, very sincere, and a man of values.

[WI_DEM]

78. Excellent response

Now watch the chimp pander.

[Mojambo]

79. He sure did.

Would have been easy to trip up there but he nailed it.

[makhno]

82. Yep, compare this to Bush

W's obviously pandering. I can't decide whether the audience member who asked the question is looking at Shrub with love or with a WTF look.

[funkybutt]

looking forward to Bush's response to the abortion thing

[ProudDad]

74. He's handling it

The freeper question about the A word...

[Peanut Gallery]

76. Kerry is making an excellent distinction between

being a private citizen and being a legislator.

[marlakay]

77. Bush's last question better be tough too!!

[eyepaddle]

85. They've thrown enough softballs hiw way

[booksenkatz]

80. Trying to decipher that? What a dim, dim son.

[kokomo]

81. Bush can't decipher Kerry's eloquence

[cynatnite]

83. Will someone educate * about partial birth abortion?

Geez, what a load of crap!

[ocean girl]

84. freeper bitch looks like she just worships Bush - gag me

[mconvente]

95. Yes!

Wow! That is a perfect rebutal from Kerry! Rape from father - of course no parental notification!

[kitkatrose]

86. Oh yeah, bring out the abstinence only education.

PBA is only done when the mother's life is in jeopardy. Get some fucking facts!!

[arcos]

87. "I signed the partial bir.... the ban on partial birth abortion"

[funkybutt]

88. "culture of life in America"...blah blah

[realFedUp]

89. Kerry had a great answer to the choice question

That was presidential

[demwing]

96. what did he say?

IM AT WOOOOORK aaaaag!

[Gregorian]

90. "Abortion is a brutal practice"...So's heart surgery.

Should we ban heart surgery?

[JerseygirlCT]

91. He just tied the Unborn Victims of Murder Act to his

stand against choice.

Haven't they been trying to keep that under a smokescreen?

[ProudDad]

92. shrub is NOT answering the question.

'cause he can't

[givemebackmycountry]

This guy is SUCH a loser

The election is about to be lost by the unelected Chimp.

Kerry handled the abortion flawlessly.

Bush is talking about murderers and Kerry talked about fairness.

He's killing this idiot.

[alexisfree]

94. bush mother did not have the choice for pro-choice

and look waht happends!!!!!!

[eyepaddle]

Bush just shouted AGAIN

[SemiCharmedQuark]

97. Bush isn't even listening to Kerry