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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:48 AM
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Ok, someone point me to the link that shows Bush owns a timber co. Plz...
Thanks! I went to Factcheck.org and their search is disabled....

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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:49 AM
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1. Bernie Ward just talked about it on the radio, Bush does own part of
a timber company, made $84 last year off it. Kerry was right, Bush doesn't even know his own portfolio.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:49 AM
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2. www.needsumwood.com has the dirt
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:51 AM
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4. Careful! Someone in another thread warned it's a spyware site
A scam site to infect your computer with all sorts of nasty stuff
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:32 AM
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12. Seems it play nasty tricks to Windows/IE users -- I didn't notice anything
I use Mozilla, so such things are well-controlled. But I will do an extra cookieware scan today, just in case.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:35 AM
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13. lessee then
was there an ulterior motive, then, for whoosh to say "NEED SOME WOOD"?

Is he absolute evil? Or just dumb as a stump?
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:52 AM
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5. Do Not go to needsumwood.com
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 07:45 AM
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15. Um, WRONG.... full of spyware and other nasties.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:51 AM
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3. Click the Archives link off the main page...
it's a couple articles down.
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:54 AM
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6. Here is a link to his 2003 tax return
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2003/N00008072_2003.pdf

Look at page 8, item 9

Limited liability company organized for the purpose of production of trees for commercial sale...etc...
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:58 AM
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7. Brad Delong quotes factcheck.org:
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 12:58 AM by allemand
"President Bush doesn't understand that in 2001 he claimed to be part-owner of a timber-growing business, and so fell under his own definition of "small business owner." Perhaps he should follow Cheney's advice--or what Cheney's advice should have been--to check factcheck.org:

President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)"
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004-2_archives/000347.html
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:59 AM
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8. Man!
I really need to read the whole thread before clicking on links! :cry:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:03 AM
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11. Tell me about it
I didn't think I'd ever get out of there.....
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:59 AM
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9. We need to figure out if he still owns it..
If he used to but does not anymore it changes the equation a little.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:39 AM
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14. not much. same sum. he lies.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:03 AM
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10. Here it is, wood free.
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx@DocID=265.html

President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)

The President's 2001 tax return, citing $84 in profit from Lone Star Trust. (Adobe .pdf format)

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/presreturns.nsf/Returns/968A0298DD56761B85256E4400790D0E/$file/bush01.pdf

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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 07:51 AM
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16. the scoop on the wood.......
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