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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:22 AM
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Kerry quoted Justice Potter Stewart, does Bush even know who he is?
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 01:23 AM by JohnKleeb
To be fair, I've read Justice Stewart's opinions on the court and I wouldn't have counted him among my favorites like I would Justices Warren, Black, Brennan, Douglas, Marshall of the same time period but the quote Kerry used was great. To paraphrase, the mark of a good justice is that you can read his or her opinion and not be able to tell they're liberal or conservative, white or black, christian, jewish, muslim, etc. I wonder if Bush even knows who he is. BTW this is also the same judge who said on porno, I can not define it but I know it when I see it.



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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:23 AM
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1. Yeah. He's that boy magician.
That's the one. "Potter Stewart and the Magic Fruit." I read it once.

--bkl
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:26 AM
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2. Bush doesn't know who that boy is
The fundies banned all those witchcraft books.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:30 AM
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5. haw
Good one man.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:29 AM
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3. President: I have nothing but respect for combat surgeons....
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:32 AM
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7. So do I Mr. President
but could you name at least one justice of the Warren Court?
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:33 AM
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8. LMAO !!!
Sherman T Potter !!!
President stupid couldn't even remember the name of the womann that asked him a question 90 seconds after she asked it !!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:34 AM
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9. I betcha his excuse is "The president has a learning disablity"
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 01:34 AM by JohnKleeb
Fuck that, I have one, I can remember names, and I probably know more members of his cabinet than he does :D.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:44 AM
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16. It's not his memory...
He just doesn't like us peasants !! You and I remember people's names because we want to. We want to get to know others, we have common courtesy. We like the other peasnants !
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:47 AM
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17. possibly
and I guess he bought that timber company while on Tony Montana Juice.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:12 AM
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21. I own a timber company? That's news to me. Need some wood?
Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges, years ago, said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights. That's a personal opinion. That's not what the Constitution says. The Constitution of the United States says we're all -- you know, it doesn't say that. It doesn't speak to the equality of America.

:wtf:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:34 AM
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22. He really misintepreted Scott Vs Sanford
As flawed as that decison was, slaves were considered property. What made then Chief Justice Roger Taney's judgement so wrong is because slavery is immorally wrong, on that basis Dred Scott should have been awarded his freedom. I wonder what happened to Dred Scott.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott
oh man the irony, he's buried in St. Louis.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:47 AM
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23. I was just about to post that !!!
"Some years after the case,Scott was returned to his original owners, the Blows, who granted him his freedom less than a year and a half before his death in 1858."

I'm sure mr bush* is not a student of history. He probably toured Calvary Cemetary in St. Louis, earlier in the day, but didn't bother reading the plaque ! He doesn't like reading.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:49 AM
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24. Of course George doesnt know history
No I think he was touring the Amheiser Busch Brewery but maybe not because they've given to the democrats.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:30 AM
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4. Damn, John Kleeb !
I'm impressed !!! Are you going to be a lawyer ? i think you should consider it, god knows we need some good lefty lawyers in this country.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:31 AM
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6. No way
Speechwriting I plan. I did have plans to be a labor attorney at one point but let's face it, I may be a southerner but I ain't gots the Edwards charisma, I got facts but I don't have the emotion and charisma to do so, now my words are pretty good.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:40 AM
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13. Yes way !!!
It's ALL about language man !!! Charisma's great if you want to be an actor, but a good trial attorney is a master of communication ! I don't think you should rule it out. Get a degree in history or english first, work for a few years as a writer, then go to law school ? I think you'd make a great lawyer, and I hardly know you !!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:42 AM
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15. Ive considered UVA law school but it would be tough to get in
I actually plan to major in pol sci, and minor in journalism or psychology.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:49 AM
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18. Good for you, man
You will probably change your mind once or twice when you get to college,but I'm sure you will excel at whatever you choose !
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:49 AM
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25. Thanks hope so
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:35 AM
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10. this is a line Kerry has used many times before
i knew exactly what he was going to say when he started responding. and it IS a very good line. the type the non partisans would or should agree with.

i don't know much about him and never saw him as being one of the greats as the others that you listed. but this one line was a very good one and i'm glad kerry used it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:40 AM
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12. Ive never heard him use that before but it's a great one
Kerry is a history scholar, he knows his stuff and thats one of the many reasons I admire him. Justice Stewart was a conservative on the liberal Warren Court, not a bad guy but I am sure we wouldn't agree with his decisions, at any rate, Stewart while he was conservative is nothing compared to Scalia, Rehnquist, and Thomas, the gruesome threesome of the court, I won't include Kennedy and O'Connor because they swing both ways on issues.
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demzilla Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:37 AM
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11. Yes, he's the stewart of the land
and quite a potter, too.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:41 AM
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14. hah I loved how Kerry responded to that
Saying basically he was delusional for thinking he was environmentally friendly and that being like that is ok if you're a Red Sox fan, Kerry is a Sox fan so it was a nice jab at himself heh.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:56 AM
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19. Bush ought to know...
... since Potter Stewart was his father's alibi on Oct. 19, 1980 while Bush, Sr., was sneaking off to Paris to meet with the Iranians. See Robert Parry's "X-Files" at:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html

Site seems to be down at the moment, though.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:02 AM
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20. Potter Stewart knows obscenity when he sees it
I too have read Stewart's opinions, and while I'm generally not a fan, his line about hard core pornography was refreshingly honest (if not legally astute.

The Brethern describes it this way:

The Casablanca Test: "I know it when I see it." In Casablanca, as a Navy lieutenant in World War II and watch officer for his ship, Stewart had seen his men bring back locally produced pornography. He knew the difference between that hardest of hard core and much of what came to the Court. He called it his 'Casablanca Test'."
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