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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:13 AM
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More little moments from last night's debate (morning-after tape watch)...
Watching the debate tape from late night:

Bush: "I wasn't happy that there weren't weapons there (in Iraq), and we're gonna find out why!" Huh? You weren't happy that Saddam DIDN'T have weapons that could kill us? Thanks for thinking of us, Mister President.

Bush: "He voted against ... the 87 billion ... before ... (big pause) ... he voted for it." Mister President ... you've got your slogan backwards. Oh, I forgot. Your BRAIN WORKS backwards.

Feel free to add more little moments you noticed that haven't been discussed here today (not the big stuff like abortions or timber businesses or the freak-out). I'm going to continue watching the tape, and find more gems.
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:15 AM
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1. how about K: no new taxes
what's that about? seems like smirky skewered Kerry on his father's line. Of course there have to be more taxes, Kerry could have said, roll back the tax cuts for the rich! what's wrong with that?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:20 AM
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2. Uhhh... The Question Specifically Referred To...
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 10:21 AM by jayfish
an increase in "the tax burden on families earning less than $200,000 a year during your first term?" Looks like your skewered yourself with that Freeper-style lie. Did you bother to read the transcript? It's not hard to find.

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004c.html

Jay

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:25 AM
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4. Bush's pronunciation of "vehicle."
Vee-HICK-ull.

Sounds like that M*A*S*H episode where someone is studying for a driver's license or something, and the one guy is making everyone repeat vee-HICK-ull.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:27 AM
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5. how about the
YOUNITED states legislatoooorrrr
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:21 AM
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3. I did notice that, the idiot transposing the votes. Haven't rewatched yet
so I'll look for that "I wasn't happy" moment. What a dipshit. The only thing he's gonna find out is what it feels like to be a one-term president, like his dad.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:28 AM
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6. A note about C-Span (don't know if the networks did this ...)
... maybe someone can tell me, because I only tape C-span ... they print the question being asked at the bottom of the screen. Great for re-watching the tape -- easier to fast-forward to the question you want.

Oh, here's another one ... Bush started pronouncing Silvio Berlusconi, and he said one syllable of the last name, and then continued with his sentence. I think he wasn't confident he could pronounce that name, so he just moved on.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:37 AM
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9. I Caught That Too.
Reminded me of the SNL skit from Bush v. Gore. This guy is a comedy goldmine. I've laughed out-loud more this morning than I have in the last couple of months.

Jay

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:33 AM
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7. Bush: .... "unaccounted judges."
Bush: "I made the decision not to join the International Criminal Court in the Hague ... where our troops could be brought before an UNACCOUNTED JUDGE."

Can someone please explain to me what an unaccounted judge is?

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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:35 AM
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8. I liked this one which I haven't seen mentioned here much...
"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, And the world would be a lot better off."

Uh, so you admit that the world would have been better off if Kerry were president? Great! So we can call off the election now?
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:40 AM
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10. I really liked
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 10:41 AM by leeroysphits
how Kerry has begun using the word "kids" in place of "troops" when talking about conditions on the ground in Iraq. This is a brilliant and effective use of language and, imo, makes the message really hit home. It may seem like pandering to some but as far as I'm concerned it's the truth and establishes an emotional connection to the problem: these aren't faceless "troops" fighting and dying in an illegal and immoral war, these are our CHILDREN.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:42 AM
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11. I think Kerry should have reversed the parts of his Iran answer ...
... the woman asked what would you do if sanctions don't prevent Iran from nuking up. Kerry spent about 45 seconds saying what Bush did wrong ... he should have said (IMHO) immediately what he'd do about Iran, and then spend the remainder of his time saying, "but we might not be in this situation with Iran if Bush hadn't sent all our resources to Iraq etc. etc." ... Small quibble, but when you're trying to remove the waffler label from your lapel, you need to give the direct answer to the question first, so eyes don't glaze over. IMHO.

Bush: "That answer almost made me want to scowl." Well, DU-ers predicted he'd call attention to his facial expressions from Debate #1 -- "see, I'm laffin' at my-seff!"
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:45 AM
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12. The Battling Green Eyeshades line
Ok, I know he meant the thing that accountants wore, but it just sounded insane. Especially when it sounded like he said "babbling green eyeshades."
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:45 AM
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13. I liked how Kerry hammered the point about "enough troops for the peace."
Bush was saying he asked his generals if we had enough troops to WIN THE WAR and they said, "Yessir, Mr. President, that's what we need." "That's whut a president duz ..."

Then Kerry pops up and says a general (whose name I can't spell, but I'm not the one running for president!) said we didn't have enough troops to "WIN THE PEACE!" Very effective.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:45 AM
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14. And when he accidently said
Terror Act instead of Patriot Act before correcting himself.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:57 AM
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18. Wow! I must have run to the little girls' room when he said that ...
... he called it the Terra Act? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:46 AM
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15. I've yet to watch the debate in it's entirety.
last night was a late night out(Vote for Change/Orlando) so I'm waiting for my head to clear so I can fully appreciate the bastard in semi-meltdown......I say semi because I believe the best is yet to come in #3.

I did laugh out loud at the Internets and them there modern veHICKels he was espousing. :P
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:48 AM
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16. Bush keeps picking at the button on his suitcoat. Is it too tight?
It's driving me nuts. Maybe he's adjusting his transmitter!;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:56 AM
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17. Watch Bush right before his little freak-out ...
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 10:59 AM by gauguin57
... while Kerry's talking. Kerry is looking him right in the face. Bush looks down to take notes. Bush: blink, blink, blink, face twitch, teeth grinding, teeth grinding, blink, blink, blink, pursing lips, narrowing eyes into a squinty little glare at his opponent, blink, twitch, grind ...

then he leaps from his chair to yell over Charlie Gibson TELL TONY BLAIR WE'RE GOING ALONE ...

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!

Wow. Kerry's face is calm, cool and collected ... Bush looks like he's gonna slip his straightjacket any minute. Good Goddess, how did this man ever get into the white house?

As he's throwing his little tantrum, he's lookin' more and more like a cheap, storefront televangelist. I expect him to break into "His Eye is on the Sparrow" any minute.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:03 PM
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25. Cheap, storefront televangelist . . .


"Jonas Nightingale, a travelling huckster, fraud of a faith healer, demon "caster outer", "slay in the spiriter" & more importantly, a money grubbing false prophet."

This film portrays the shrub to a 'T'. It was even filmed in Texas. Check it out.

TYY
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:02 AM
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19. I did a Jon Stewart "whaaa???" twice...
...The first was when * mentioned the draft rumors "all over the internets" :eyes:

The second when I swear I heard him call Kerry "Senator Kennedy" when parroting the "most liberal senator" line. Everyone sitting with me heard it too! :D
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:30 PM
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22. He did say Kennedy, I replayed it three times, even the closed
captioning says Kennedy!

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:11 AM
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20. Bush, re: Iraq: "This is a long, long war ..."
Uh, you can say it George ... just call it what it is. QUAGMIRE!!!!!!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:11 AM
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21. The question about the three mistakes Shrub may have made!
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:13 AM by Hubert Flottz
The only ones Dumbya could think of was, "Bad Appointments I May Have Made"! Did he mean Colin who don't get with the program 100% 24/7? Did he mean his former secretary of the treasury who told the truth about Bush's and Cheney's plans to invade Iraq before 9/11 ever happened? Did he mean John Ashcroft, who dreamed up the Patriot Acts 1 and 2? Did he mean Rumbo who probably ordered the collection of Iraqi intelligence by the use of torture? Did he mean the people at the pentagon, who led us to war based on a pack of lies? Bush talks in riddles and plays games like a spoiled kid! To him America's problems are just a joke!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:41 PM
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23. What is the correct pronunciation of Silvio Berlusconi?
Servio? Seems bush mangled either his first or last name twice during his homage to our "allies".

Also when speaking of them thar technological wonders he said "more facile" yet the closed captioning said "more faster".

Also companies who provide an "incent" to their workers.

The Senator Kennedy reference was hilarious. Was Ted in the audience or is Junior still pissed about daddy giving Mr. Liberal an award over him?

The "want some wood" line.....jeez......leader of the free world. :dunce:

Let's keep spreading freedom!
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:41 PM
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24. "Well President Clinton thought so too" like the little tattletale
in school that no one liked!

Hey, genius, Clinton wasn't STUPID enough to take us to war over something he wasn't sure about.

I counted twice that he blamed Clinton.
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