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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:10 AM
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George Bush's Notion of a Strict Constructionist's Justice
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:27 AM by bigtree
In 2000, the Confederate battle flag that sat atop the South Carolina statehouse did not provoke then-candidate George Bush to criticism. But his admonition to "let the people of South Carolina decide the flag's fate was a signal to those in the birthplace of southern independence that his campaign would pursue his notion of state sovereignty, or state's rights,even where issues of race demand sensitivity and deference.

In his second debate with John Kerry, Mr. Bush evoked his desire for Supreme Court justices who would act as strict constructionists in their decision making and rulings. Said Bush:

"I wouldn't pick a judge who said that the Pledge of Allegiance couldn't be said in a school because it had the words "under God" in it. I think that's an example of a judge allowing personal opinion to enter into the decision-making process as opposed to a strict interpretation of the Constitution.

Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges, years ago, said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights.

That's a personal opinion. That's not what the Constitution says. The Constitution of the United States says we're all -- you know, it doesn't say that. It doesn't speak to the equality of America.

And so, I would pick people that would be strict constructionists. We've got plenty of lawmakers in Washington, D.C. Legislators make law; judges interpret the Constitution."


Mr. Bush should take care when romanticizing about a strict constructionist's notion of state's rights originally evoked in support of succession and tyranny and repudiated by the Civil War.

His wink and nod to South Carolina voters amounted to more than just deference to local sovereignty and initiative. The Confederate battle flag reappeared atop the state house in 1962 as a chilling moniker of white supremacy in symbolic resistance to federal civil rights initiatives. How aggressively would Mr. Bush defend our federal rights against state defiance?

In 1999, the Supreme Court revived old state's rights doctrines as they allowed state legislatures to selectively refuse to enforce legislation they disagreed with. The actions of the Court put into question whether the federal government could exercise primacy in the enforcement of the laws it passed as reluctant and self-interested state legislatures took to gambling federal law against the Supreme Court's fixed, conservative majority. The 5-4 majority has helped transform the notion of state's rights from succession, to sovereignty, to obstruction.

The doctrine of state's rights was initially evoked in the creation of the constitution to keep the importation of slaves legal until 1808, and to deny southern blacks full rights of citizenship. It was subsequently used to defend the interstate transport of slaves, to defend the fugitive slave law, and to expand slave territory to Kansas. Blacks weren't afforded rights until after the Civil War when states were forced to accept federal guarantees to blacks as a condition of readmission to the Union. But even the 14th and 15th amendments were just abstractions without the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act to provide the basis for federal enforcement of these rights.

One consequence of a renewal of state sovereignty could be the political disenfranchisement of African Americans and women. Their rights of citizenship are the product of federal action taken long after the enactment of the original constitution. Mr. Bush is challenged in his executive authority to take responsibility where states will not or cannot act, and fashion defensible legislation that can be enforced.

Col. R.G. Ingersoll, an opponent of the doctrine of state's rights in the 1800's, noted that ". . . rights are not self-executed. I only owe the government allegiance that owes me my protection." he wrote. Without the consistent logic of federal primacy and state compliance in the execution of federal law no federal action can be expected to prevail. Americans need more than just good faith assurances that rights are guaranteed. Rights must be backed by defensible law.

President Bush's reference to the Dred Scott decision as an example of "personal opinion" imposed on Supreme Court reasoning ignored the irony that the justice who wrote the majority opinion in the case in 1857, and insisted that blacks were not entitled to full rights because they were only afforded two-thirds representation in the original constitution, was himself invoking a strict constructionist's standard. Dred Scott argued that he should be set free because he had visited a free-state, Wisconsin. The Court ruled against Scott by claiming that African Americans were inferior and without legal rights and could never be citizens of the U.S..

Chief Justice Roger B. Taney wrote the majority opinion which read:

"In the opinion of the Court, the legislation and histories of the times, and the language used in the Declaration of Independence, show that neither the class of persons who had been imported as slaves nor their descendants, whether they had become free or not, were then acknowledged as a part of the people nor intended to be included in the general words used in that memorable instrument."

That is one of the most stark examples of the fallacy of using a strict constructionist's philosophy to determine matters of law. Mr. Bush argued against his own ideology in criticizing Chief Justice Taney's strict interpretation of the constitution, and inadvertently pointed up how a strict constructionist's approach to issues of justice and law does not recognize rights that aren't specifically spelled out in the constitution. Strict constructionists believed that President Lincoln's emancipation order was illegal because it didn't repeal the clause in the constitution that recognized whites as citizens and blacks as 3/5 white.

Mr. Bush's divisive instincts and initiatives would be well served by strict constructionist justices who would ignore settled legislation that reflects decades of progressive reasoning and deliberation, and would narrow the scope of such legislation to comport with his narrow views.

It's a shame that Mr.Bush wields his power and influence with such reckless indifference . . . and ignorance.






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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:14 AM
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1. Amen!
Nominated and kicked.

I think that the judge who said that "under God" should be taken out of the pledge was working under a strict interpretation of the Constitution-no gov't establishment of religion.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 AM
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6. Exactly! That case was really the opposite of *'s point
The judge was NOT letting personal opinion sway his views, but going back to the original, strict intent of the constitution, and noting that the "pledge" came relatively recent in US history, during the Cold War.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:23 AM
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2. A kick and a bravo
...and a nomination.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:37 AM
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3. .
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:38 AM
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4. Bush's definition of "strict constructionist"
Conservative activist judge.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:40 AM
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5. What an idiot.
Bush, not you. I can't believe he actually said that quote you gave.

duh duh well... duh... the constitution duh... doesn't say that. Yes it does dumbass, and aren't we all GLAD times change.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:47 AM
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7. This page, about a third of the way down
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:49 AM
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8. Excellent summation
And I thought Bush came within an ace of quoting the Declaration of Independence and attributing it to the Constitution: That all men are created equal. He interrupted himself (or his earpiece did) right at the last moment.

I thought Kerry displayed remarkable forebearance in not dressing Chimpy down on the stupid point he was mis-making; we'll take it from here, John. No wonder Stupidhead failed to get into law school.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:52 AM
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9. I caught that, too.
I was just coming out of my chair to yell, Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution - and he stopped himself.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:20 PM
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12. ". . . we'll take it from here, John."
I like that.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:14 PM
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10. Genuine gratuitous-brand bump
Accept no substitutes.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:19 PM
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11. .
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:33 PM
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13. John Kerry mentioned labelling several times
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 09:41 PM by depakote_kid
and there are few better examples of labelling/branding than so called "strict constructionist" jurists. It's a term with as little real meaning as any little commercial jingle that one might watch on TV.

This quote from the debate was quite telling though:

That's a personal opinion. That's not what the Constitution says. The Constitution of the United States says we're all -- you know, it doesn't say that. It doesn't speak to the equality of America.

I literally screamed at the TV. Something I try not to do- it affects both my blood pressure as well as my psyche.

I no longer ask how Bush can be so stupid- he's not so stupid, he's incurious; he's a sociopath with narcissistic traits- but I do wonder about his supporters, and whether they can read- whether they want to read:

The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution (Ratified July 9, 1868):

Section One: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:52 PM
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14. The 14th amendment was just paper without a federal government
that was willing or able to enforce it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:16 AM
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CityHall Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:15 AM
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16. Code for Roe v. Wade
As other threads have pointed out, "Dred Scott" is code for "Roe v. Wade" in evangelical speak. Bush is pandering to his base here, as can be seen from his muddled interpretation of Dred Scott. He doesn't care what it says, what he is doing is appealing to a group of people who for years have equated abortion with slavery. Google on "Dred Scott abortion".
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:25 AM
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17. Ingersoll
Robert Ingersoll was "the Great Agnostic," unwaveringly against slavery, pro-universal suffrage, and a Republican.

He's probably the greatest example (besides the anti-States' rights northern tyrant Lincoln) that the very idea that the modern Republicans carry any legacy (beyond the corporate power structure) of the original Republican Party is ludicrous beyond description.
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