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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:19 PM
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If you are against stem cell research, outlaw IVF and sex
The 'implantation rate' for IVF can be quite low (10-20%).
http://humrep.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/15/2/250

Implantation rate - the proportion of embryos transferred resulting in an intrauterine gestational sac.

That means as many as 9 embryos are 'killed' for each pregnancy. Not to mention the frozen embryos that are no longer wanted.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12738496
396,526 embryos in storage as of April 11, 2002


While you are at it, outlaw sex, because about 15% of pregancies spontaneously abort (naturally abort by 20 weeks).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7304585
15.8% of pregnancies spontaneously abort within 20 weeks of fertilization.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:51 PM
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1. They can't outlaw IVF!!
It's the only way wealthy blue-blood republicans can reproduce.

The business about spontaneous abortion in 15% of pregnancies is much more ominous. Will every woman that has a miscarriage suddenly be subject to police interrogation as a suspected abortionist? When abortion is illegal, anything that might be an abortion will be a matter of police concern.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:59 PM
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2. I can't access that article, but I think it's the one
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 01:00 PM by JPJones
where they gave pregnancy tests to college aged women, like every week, and found a large number of spontaneous abortions before two weeks of pregnancy, i.e. before the woman knew she was pregnant.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:02 PM
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3. An every one of them a criminal suspect
Did the prgnancy end naturally, or did they induce it?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 01:03 PM
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4. By the same token, if you wanna outlaw abortion, outlaw IFV.
And all the tidy-whitey Republicans can watch the lower classes reproduce over and over while they "long for a child." Problem is many in the lower classes think adoption is just as bad a abortion, so the tidy-whities will NEVER HAVE THE "CHILD THEY LONG FOR"! Ah- ha! ha! ha!


Man, I'm feeling purely evil today!
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