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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:54 PM
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I cannot stand the reaction from the media to Bush's debate performance!
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 03:59 PM by Cascadian
:wtf:


They are calling it a draw!!! I don't get it. I saw nothing that showed me Bush had any kind of control nor command on stage. He was awful! The damned media is spinning this like crazy! I smell a Rove in this one. Anybody with a quarter of a brain could see he was botching it up like the last time and interrupting Charlie Gibson should have been a dead giveaway.

You have to call the media's bluff. This just stinks to high heaven!


John
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IIgnoreNobody Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:58 PM
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1.  BUSH'S Temperature Rises


BUSH GOES NEGATIVE...ON CHARLIE GIBSON?

"President Bush smirked and winked and chuckled to himself. He jumped from his stool, chopped at the air and interrupted the debate moderator. As he fought to keep his emotions in check in a testy, personal debate with Sen. John Kerry, the president asserted, 'That answer almost made me scowl.'" (AP, 10/8/04)

"An angry Bush at one point cut off moderator Charles Gibson to upbraid Kerry for criticizing the size of the coalition backing the United States in Iraq, saying it denigrated allies like Britain and Poland." (Reuters, 10/9/04)

"During his (Bush's) own answers and rebuttals, he was pugnacious. He overrode moderator Charles Gibson's protests at one point, saying loudly, 'I have to answer this.'" (USA Today, 10/9/04)

BUSH ON DEFENSE

DEFENSIVE

Mark Shields: "I thought the President played defense on an awful lot of issues tonight. I mean including the Canadian importation of drugs and so much on the economy, and as well as Iraq." (PBS, 10/8/04)

Liz Marlantes, Christian Science Monitor: "I actually would in many ways characterize the president's performance as heated and to me, at times; it seemed very defensive, actually." (MSNBC, 10/9/04)

John Harwood, Wall Street Journal: "(Bush) was quite agitated at the beginning. He looked defensive, he looked like somebody who was sort of trying to push the rock up hill, convincing people why he really should have gone to war against Iraq even though there were no weapons of mass destruction." (CNN, 10/8/04)

BUSH'S ANGER MANAGEMENT

"ANGRY MAN"

Jon Meachan: "That was so interesting to me about President Bush is that he seemed like an angry man tonight, and clearly Kerry got under his skin in the first debate and instead of frankly not letting butter melt in his mouth, tonight he seemed to me to be speaking very loudly." (PBS, 10/9/04)

Melinda Henneberger: "(Bush) seemed angry to me." (MSNBC 10/9/04)

"TIGHTLY COILED"

Liz Marlantes, Christian Science Monitor: "(Bush) still has some of those things...I mean, you look at his face, he's so tightly coiled; he's got the jaw, he's doing the blinking thing." (MSNBC, 10/9/04)

"TENSE AND ANGRY"

Joe Klein: "...Bush seemed tense and angry. The person who wins is the person when you turn off the sound, the one who looks better to the public -- that was Kerry tonight. Bush is supposed to be the laid back regular guy, (but) he seems more tense than Kerry does." (CNN, 10/9/04)

"When Mr. Kerry accused the president of going to war unilaterally, Mr. Bush could not suppress his anger. He jumped off his stool and interrupted the moderator, Charles Gibson of ABC, saying, 'I've got to answer this.' Mr. Gibson wanted to pursue the subject of whether deploying Reserves constituted a form of military draft, but Mr. Bush was adamant. 'Let me just answer what he just said about going alone,' he insisted. 'You tell Tony Blair we're going alone! Tell Tony Blair we're going alone!'" (New York Times, 10/9/04)

"STRIDENT AND INTENSE"

"At the outset, Bush seemed strident and intense, as if over-eager to avoid a repetition of his pained performance eight days ago." (New York Times, 10/9/04)

"(Bush)...could have used more humility and was almost shrill at times." (Editorial, Dallas Morning News, 10/9/04)

"The president seemed to fall back frequently on name-calling...." (Editorial, New York Times, 10/9/04)

NIXON-LIKE

"Bush 'seemed wound a bit too tight. He was a little like Nixon -- sort of jumping out of his suit,' said David Niven, political science professor at Florida Atlantic University. 'He looked bad on the TV close-ups.'" (AP, 10/9/04)

HOT UNDER THE COLLAR

"The president...let his feelings get the better of him, getting hot under the collar in a medium best served cold. From the outset, his clenched jaw twitched, and he blinked repeatedly, like a man whose contact lens hurt. And when Senator John Kerry turned and confronted him face to face with the latest report on the absence of illicit weapons in Iraq, President Bush snickered derisively - the first sign that the president, though more combative than in the first debate, was not on his game." (New York Times, 10/9/04)

"AGITATED"

"Bush, curbing most of the signs of frustration that marked his performance in last week's debate, grew agitated after Kerry asserted the United States is bearing the burden in Iraq." (Houston Chronicle, 10/9/04)

"FLUSTERED"

"(Bush)...did come across as flustered at a couple points in the evening, referring to his opponent as 'Sen. Kennedy,' who is the senior senator from Massachusetts. When asked about the draft, Bush declared: 'I hear there is a rumor on the Internets.'" (Chicago Tribune, 10/9/04)

BUSH'S DEJA VU EXPRESSIONS

"Mr. Bush seemed hesitant and spoke loudly when he took the stage...at times he flashed glances of anger at Mr. Kerry that were reminiscent of his demeanor the week before." (New York Times, 10/9/04)

"And not unlike that first battle, the president sounded angry and defensive, as if scolding the undecided. 'Yeah, great question,' he said when a man asked him about the draft." (New York Times, 10/9/04)

"Bush kept his smirks and other body language in check more so than he did in the first debate, though at times he still let them roam. At one point, Bush even interrupted moderator Charles Gibson to lecture Kerry about the allied coalition in Iraq: 'You tell (British Prime Minister) Tony Blair we're going alone!'" (Arizona Republic, 10/9/04)
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=37822
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:07 PM
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2. Ask Tony Blair = Norwood/Dingle
We can't let this one get past without a good spin or six. He sounded pathetic, desperate...like a 6 year old saying "ask Tommy, he said it was ok"...sheesh.

Thanks for the synopsis...now has the image of a spoiled brat setting in outside the beltway?
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:16 PM
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4. I noticed he seemed to be YELLING all his answers....
and frankly in all honesty, I dont care who we're talking about, if ANYONE spoke to me like he spoke to that audience last night, I would be like "I can HEAR you, shut the fuck up already." I found him to be demeaning and overbearing with everything he said.

Honestly, he did better than the first one, but still it was a piss poor performance. The MSM would take ONE nanosecond of sanity and spin it into a tie. Tie my ass! NO way, NO how.

Makes me wonder if Kerry was acting the way he was, would they have called it a clear decisive victory for smirk? Duh. Answered my own question.
:kick:
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:39 PM
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9. America saw that too
Doesn't matter what the pundits say. America saw an undisciplined president who is overpowered by emotion.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:15 PM
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3. Bush lost him wittle temper.. THAT should have been a DEFAULT LOSS
Bush was an embarrassment as he lunged towards the moderator in a fit of 2 year old whining, as he bleated out the name TONY BLAIR. The fight should have been called at that point. Ding! Yer done, cowboy.
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RoyalWickedness Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:20 PM
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5. Slowly, sir,
step AWAY from the television.... Seriously, turn it off, it rots your brain. Talk a walk, go see a movie, read the funny papers. You're on overload dude. Take a break, get your head straight, and you'll be better able to handle it. We all get overwhelmed; sometimes you just have to take a little time for yourself. All the BS will still be here when you get back. Breathe deep....
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:22 PM
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6. I agree..
That is why I try to stay away from all cable news now.. They really have no journalistic integrity... I would be curious to hear if or how the CBC covers or elections and what their opinions on it are? I think to get any evaluation that isn't slanted towards Bush you have to go outside the country for the news.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:28 PM
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7. They're pissed..they're the 1% getting a tax increase!
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 04:29 PM by ksoze
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:30 PM
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8. "he didn't look as stupid as he did the last time, so he won"
He looked completely out of control, angry, snarling, hostile, belligerent, just like a dry drunk.

Maybe the pundits are worshipping at his feet, but I don't think people out in the real world are. Reliable companies who are polling undecided voters have seen a shift to Kerry.

It's really sad watching so many highly paid "experts" throw their credibility away on that man.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:45 PM
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10. They need it to be a draw
so they can continue the 'close race' story line.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 05:01 PM
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12. That's right. Ratings ratings ratings.
;)
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jacksonian Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 05:00 PM
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11. and we know what they're going to want after the third debate
surrender.
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