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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:10 PM
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Hey, swing and red staters, what's happening?
- Do you sense anything good (or bad) since the debates so far?
- Are the Repugs and their 527s spending lots of money on ads to compensate for the idiot pres?
- Are the Dems and Dem-leaning 527s running effective ads?
- Do you think the Dems have real momentum, or is that just wishful thinking?
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clevergirl Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:22 PM
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1. Virginia's going blue
Not by much, but it's going to happen. Bush has pretty much taken Virginia for granted, while Northern Virginia and other parts of the state are swarming with progressive activity. We're getting no paid ads or appearances, but the grassroots energy is phenomenal and unlike previous Dem efforts, it's actually organized. I've never seen anything like it.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:23 PM
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2. I just don't see it
Except for Northern VA and Richmond, the rest of the state is too Republican.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:25 PM
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4. That is so exciting
Those of you in swing and red states deserve so much credit for all you're doing. It takes a lot more courage to try to win Virginia than it takes to win Massachusetts (which is where I am).
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:56 PM
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13. E-Mail me
and I'll make arrangements for you to help us campaign in southern NH. That's where Massachusetts' Kerry volunteers have been working for months.

I have a cousin that just flew down to Florida to campaign.

And a friend that drove to Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh) to work for Kerry. We also hit "down East" in Maine on day trips.

Being from Massachusetts doesn't mean you have to sit out this campaign.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:27 AM
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63. I agree...NO ONE is talking about Virginia, its always lumped in with
the southern red state redneck south. Northern Virginia elected Warner (D) and its anti-Bush. Plus its gained greatly in population and sides itself with the progressive DC and Maryland suburbs.
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clevergirl Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:24 PM
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3. Zogby Virginia Oct. 6: Bush 50, Kerry 47
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:25 PM
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5. I feel very confidant Kerry will take New Mexico
The latest Albuquerque Journal Poll has Kerry ahead outside the margin of error and it's considered to be a very good poll. Before the debates Bush was ahead in that poll by around five points. Zogby also has Kerry now leading here by over ten points. I think with all the new democratic voters and a very energized democratic base Kerry will win by around five points here. Gore won by only 500 votes last time.

I think the ads are a wash here. Kerry has a great one on health care which I think will resonate with our lower than average income people. A very large block here in New Mexico. Hearing that five million people have lost health care in the past four years with Bush is scary. It's rather devastating if you think about it.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:37 PM
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44. I'm thinking of coming to New Mexico..
to work on election day. (I'm in Texas now.)
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:35 PM
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6. I keep on hearing that NM is a swing state....
.....right.... I have family spread out in that state and It is BLUE, BABY!!! I'm going there as a poll watcher for 6 days. It is tax deductable as an added bonus!!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:46 PM
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10. It's very quiet down here in Southern NM....we see only the national
ads, nothing local because we (Las Cruces) are the ONLY place in NM that is not in the NM market! We're in the El Paso ad market, so forget that! NADA!
Laura Bush is coming here on Monday, and George P. on Tuesday. Bush is in Hobbs on Monday, but nothing indicating he's coming here...He was here last month, and Edwards swooped in the same day, right after Bush left!

Thanks for the poll info...I feel so left out, now I feel better!!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:50 PM
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12. I went to school at NMSU
I loved Las Cruces!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:48 PM
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49. Me too! What year did you graduate? Both my parents were professors their
Al Richardson - Chemistry
Shirley Richardson - Psychology
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #49
54. 1986 - Anth.
Your mother, the Psy prof has a name that rings a bell.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:58 PM
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19. It's weird to me that N.M. is blue
It's surrounded by red. It's the only "island" blue state, isn't it? Is it cause of all the artist/hippie types in Taos or are people just smarter at that elevation?
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LiberalCommiePinko Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:36 PM
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31. Hispanics are about 45% of the population and we're a poor state.
If anything, we should be more democratic than we are.
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Grillymom Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:35 PM
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7. We live in Ohio
and the latest poll (I think it was Zogby) had Kerry by about.3%. Not a big margin to say the least, but things are turning in the right direction! We live in a heavily Republican county, no Dem elected officials at the local level! Recently, I've noticed that there seem to be Kerry supporters and Dems coming out of the woodwork. Normally in a presidential primary cycle about 400-600 voters register from Rep to Dem. This year about 6000 have switched. The Republican Central Committee was not happy:party:
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:05 PM
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14. Wow! That's excellent news, grillymom
Do you see the switch coming from the northern or southern part of your county? Kerry really needs the central Ohio area. You are giving me a lot of hope.

Also, welcome to the underground. It's exciting to see another Buckeye on board!
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Grillymom Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:27 PM
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15. I'm not sure which part of the county exactly.
However, I live in the central area of the county and have noticed more Kerry signs in yards than Bush signs. Also, there are more storefronts with Kerry signs than Bush. I do believe the tides are changing.

I'm happy to know that there are more DU people in Ohio!
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:13 AM
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62. Check in at the Ohio forum
I started a new "where are you from" thread just so you could meet us.:hi:
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lsuguy Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:30 PM
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27. Don't rule out Louisiana
Polls had Bush ahead huge two months ago, now it's just 8% in two polls -- not enought for Kerry to spend any money on, but this is one southern state that is always interesting. All statewide elected officials are democrats; African American population is large and very well organized; New Orleans has an active lgbt community; a lot of factory workers are troubled by Bush and the jobs issue; and we've got two major democratic candidates running in the primary on November 2 -- both of which will have machines working to get votes out.

Send Edwards back to the state a couple of times over the next few weeks! Louisiana could still be in play!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:35 PM
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41. I wonder about Louisiana.
(from Jefferson Parish; currently living in Austin. moving back after college.)

The gay marriage vote disappointed me, although I'm glad that it was on the September ballot rather than the November 2nd ballot. When I last visited home in late August, I saw a good number of Bush ads but no Kerry ads really (unless they were running on Cox cable).

Since Kerry won't likely win, I'd kinda like to try an experiement with Louisiana: have Al Sharpton camp-out there for the next three weeks, working on a get-out-the-vote campaign. Let some 527s do an election day drive. See if it charges-up the African American voting population. Also see if it charges-up the less-than-tolerant whites also. As an added bonus (or risk), see if it affects the senate race.

I do have a senate prediction: it will go to a runoff, where (asshole) Vitter will be toast! :)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:35 PM
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30. VERY encouraging!
WELCOME TO DU! :toast:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:42 PM
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8. Minnesota is supposed to swing
But no matter how many senators are killed or how many trips dubby and the gang make here, we will be blue.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:39 AM
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65. I agree
Minneapolis/St. Paul is about 80/20 in favor of Kerry (judging from the yard signs), while even the suburbs I visited yesterday (all of which are currently represented by Republicanites) are about 50/50 (again, judging from the yard signs).

Turnout in the metro area and the Iron Range will put Kerry over the top.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:34 AM
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69. Yea' what's up with Minnesota?
I've seen polls showing shrub up? Good god the country is lost if the decent intelligent people of Minnesota go red.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #69
75. I guess they've figured out how to hack
The Optical scanner program.
Shrub can stay in crawford.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:45 PM
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9. TN is in play- Kerry signs are multiplying-Not as manyBC04 as in 00
In this heavy repug area I'm seeing lots more Kerry signs than I saw Gore signs in 00-Gore was not popular in TN
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:57 PM
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18. Yeah that's something else I forgot
in 2000, I saw TONS of bush cheney signs in Texas. They were frigging everywhere.

Now? Heh. I'm honestly hard pressed to find them. I've seen exactly three out of ALL the streets I've been on in about four large towns.

I think cities in TX will go to Kerry. It's the rural areas that are still shrubby.


But good point: the BC signs are largely missing in action this time around. Which means either fewer supporters, or they aren't as proud of him this time around, or both.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:36 PM
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42. There's a lot of Kerry signs in Kingsport
For a little while there were a lot of BC signs and now it's about even from what I can see. I've met more people who are planning on voting for Kerry/Edwards. In this highly conserv area it's great to see our two guys getting more and more support.

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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:46 PM
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11. It feels like New Hampshire will go for Kerry...
based on the overwhelming number of bumper stickers and yard signs and given the unbelievable work of groups like ACT and MoveOn and SwingtheVote. I feel tremendous energy here and very good organization. People here are now focused on GOTV!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:34 AM
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70. How did N.H. vote in 2000?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #70
73. The only New England State that voted for Bush
and if you've been there you'd know why.
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:51 PM
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16. North Carolina - I just can't get a reading in Moore County.
I've talked to so many who voted Bush in 2000 but are voting Kerry in Nov. but Dems are so outnumbered in this county that I don't see how we could possibly take it. I heard on the radio that new voter registration here was 6% Repub, 4% Dem, and 9% Unaffiliated.

This is the county that John Edwards grew up in so the Repubs are fighting like hell for it. I would love to win it for Edwards.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:54 PM
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17. Here in TX we don't see political TV ads
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 09:58 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
except for the occasional one on CNN, etc.

But not much.

Dems have been fired up in TX for a while, especially because of all the redistricting shit that was rammed down our throats. With the election coming up to REMIND us of Dems who lost their districts, it just pisses most of us off even more.

I live in suburban Dallas and have been pleasantly surprised at all the visible Kerry support. I am beginning to realize there are far more Democrats here than I ever knew, possibly than ANYONE ever knew.

I have block walked, registered tons of voters. Gore got 38% of the vote in TX in 2000 and I would be surprised if Kerry got less than 45-47%, possibly more. We won't go blue...THIS TIME. But this is a long-term thing for me. I'm in this for the long-haul. Texas WILL be a Democratic state again, mark my words.

After this election, I am going to be working hard with the state party. I wish I could even make it my full-time job, that's how dedicated I am to seeing a blue Texas.

Like I told a friend, I don't want to kill the Texas GOP. I just want to cripple it REAL bad. Like for fifty years or so.

On edit, I think my COUNTY will go for Kerry (Dallas County). Collin County, mark my words will be bush.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:01 PM
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20. What was that redistricting shit anyway?
I remember that story but it was on the periphery of stuff I follow. I remember democratic legislators flying out of the state to avoid gerrymandering votes, right? What was the final outcome?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:12 PM
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22. It was Democrats in Texas
getting screwed up the ass. Sorry, but it's true. In fact, ALL Texans got screwed.

Reps are totally in charge and they decided to redistrict the shit out of TX. So for instance, Representative Martin Frost-D, a FANTASTIC representative who gets votes from ALL political persuasions (one republican even wrote the Dallas Morning News to protest losing Frost--that's how good of a job he did for Arlington, Texas). Anywho, Frost had to go to a Dallas district where he is in the fight of his life against nasty Republican Pete Sessions. The War of the Yard Signs in Dallas has been INSANE. You even see Martin Frost signs WAY out of the Dallas district he is running in!

Also, a guy named Lloyd Doggett (an original "Killer D") has been forced out of his deep Austin district, where he was ADORED (and still is....good God, every other house has a Doggett sign and they can't even vote for him anymore) and get this: his district now is a long snaky line that cuts through EIGHTEEN COUNTIES from south Austin (conservative) to the COAST. In other words, he is going to lose.

Excuse me but the Texas GOP are mother fuckers.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:14 PM
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23. Here's a brand-new article from the Dallas Morning (Republican) News
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/101004dnlocgerryman.bc37f.html

First four paragraphs:

Thanks to Texas congressional redistricting, Williamson Road in East Dallas' Lakewood is the superhighway to confusion.

From Mockingbird Lane, you can drive a mile down Williamson and cross congressional district lines three times – from the newly redrawn 32nd District into the 5th District, then back into the 32nd, then into the 5th again. "It's insane," said Kevin Petters, a Williamson Road resident who today lives in the 5th District but will vote Nov. 2 in the 32nd District – for U.S. Rep. Martin Frost, D-Dallas. "We live on a weird, weird street. I thought it was all one district. I had no idea."

Neither do many of his neighbors, some of whom believe they'll be voting in one of the nation's most contentious and expensive congressional races: the 32nd District match-up between Mr. Frost and four-term U.S. Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Dallas.

In reality, they'll be voting in the 5th District race between U.S. Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Dallas, who faces a relatively unknown Democrat in Bill Bernstein.

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:15 PM
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24. Drat
can I add one sentence?

Republicans in the state Legislature readily acknowledge that in 2003, they drew congressional districts to favor Republicans.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:25 PM
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36. From Austin to the COAST?
WTF is THAT about? I've only been to Austin once (6th Street?) but I sure as hell don't remember it being near the coast. That's outrageous! Why doesn't that get more national play?

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Yep it goes straight down through 18 counties,,,,,,
it's INSANE
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:33 PM
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40. Shouldn't that be...illegal?
What's being done about this atrocity?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:44 PM
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46. Republican judges in TX have okayed it, what a shocker eh?
We've been fighting this for two years. It's shit. Total and utter SHIT.

And it is one of the reasons you will see BIG Dem turnout in TX in November. We're STILL pissed.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:46 PM
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48. Can it be overturned?
Tom Delay is from TX, right? What's going to happen to THAT piece of shit? Please tell me there are some Texans w/ morals...

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:15 AM
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52. There are we just aren't much in power right now
we're called Democrats, LOL.

It was just okayed by yet another court the other day. The Dems keep fighting it, but they are really running out of time. Most of us have accepted it FOR NOW but are looking at the future. What I and others are looking at is two-fold:

1. immediate goal: get a Dem in the governor's mansion (not as hard as it sounds)

2. long-term goal: take back the state. In a big way. I don't care how long it takes, how much work it takes, or if we all have to bleed, sweat and cry to make it happen, we will make it happen.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #52
53. Do you miss Ann Richards?
Now there's a spitfire. She's good peeps.

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TexasThoughtCriminal Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #46
56. Redistricting brought out this Texas Democrat!!
Redistricting is the turning point that turned this fuming Democrat into a fuming ACTIVIST Democrat! I attended a public hearing on the matter (what a charade, pretending to take input from the public, when the decision was already made). From that point on, for the first time in my life I...

1. wrote to an elected representative.
2. volunteered for a candidate.
3. gave money to a candidate.
4. became a delegate to a convention.

Moonbeam is right, Texas Democrats are stirring in unprecedented numbers, and I think the Rethugs are going to be in for a surprise.
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:37 PM
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43. there's another one
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:37 PM by CitySky
running from Austin to Katy, which is a suburb on I-10, west of Houston. They did whatever they could to slice up Austin into little pieces and dilute the votes with rural R's.

Here in Houston, our greatest loss so far was Congressman Chris Bell, the hero who filed the ethics complaint against Tom DeLay. Chris's district was redrawn so that he had to compete with another incumbent in a primary and lost.

Nick Lampson's district was also totally relocated, and he is in the fight of his life right now.

And Mr. Dawson: why does it not surprise me that your visit was to 6th street? ;)
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #43
47. Well, "undeclared gender"...my hotel was right near it!
and that's where the bellhop told me to go. :-)

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. Oh we even need this to tell what district we are in now
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:03 PM
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21. In southeast Bama, there are K/E ads every night during my local news
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 10:06 PM by BamaGirl
I was kinda pissed that they are using campaign money here (sorry, not gonna pull off Bama), till I thought about our viewing area which is Al, Fl, and Ga. Florida is ours and I think Ga is a possiblity. All the K/E stickers I see are on Ga cars.

My husband came home tonight and said he met someone I would love. I thought, oh great, another repug story (he's a cop). But, he said no, he got lectured for 20 minutes today by a trucker who said he has to vote for Kerry lol. I consider this progress. He also said, he's seeing far fewer B/C signs lately, and he's all over town (a town about 60,000). Maybe people here are finally coming to their senses.

~~BamaGirl

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demzilla Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:26 PM
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26. Arizona -- Kerry has a chance
Zogby shows him less than 1% behind here; other polls show a wider gap. I wish I knew who was right. My sense is that Kerry has 1) a very energized Dem base, and 2) a fair amount of support from disgruntled Reps and independents -- certainly more than Gore got last time, and Gore lost here by 6%.

Neither side is running ads but KE04 has kept its field organization in place and has actually brought new people in. I've never seen such an energized, organized Democratic party, and registrations are way up.

In 2002 Democrat Janet Napolitano bucked the national Republican trend and got elected governor by 10,000 or so votes out of a million cast. I think we may see another razor-thin margin. Nader is not on the ballot but Badnarik (Libertarian) is, and he ought to draw 2% or more here, hopefully mostly from right-wingers unhappy with the Chimp.

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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #26
37. No shit?
If Kerry winz AZ, it's over.


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dogpatch Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:36 AM
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55. So it's worth coming in to canvass?
I'm signed up w/the Travelers for Kerry to come from CA to do Spanish-language canvassing during the last week but I've been wondering if AZ is really a possibility. Should I still do it?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:45 AM
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58. Do it!
Even if you don't win Arizona, if you make it close enough, the RNC will have to waste resources there that can be applied elsewhere.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:52 AM
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59. Come on out!
I just worked the Kerry booth at the AZ State Fair yesterday. Lots of Bushies, it is an agricultural event so that's to be expected. But I was pleasantly surprised at the level of support. We had tons of people putting on Kerry stickers when they stopped by our booth. And the Hispanic support was obvious. So we could definitely use Spanish speaking volunteers. You'd be greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:31 PM
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28. Neither campaign is spending ANYTHING in Texas.
I just got back from a quick trip to Arkansas. My prize for a day of canvassing: a few real Kerry push cards. Oooooooo! They will be TREASURED.

What can we say, we're not in play. But there's a LOT of stuff going on.... and it's kinda fun to be part of a dedicated group of crazed volunteers that are basically rolling their own campaign. Leaders? What leaders? Heh.

This state will be more pink than people expect... like Moonbeam says, we're in it for the long haul. :D
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:33 PM
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29. I don't watch the tele much, but here in Minnesota there are oceans
of Kerry signs ... In my surburban "hood" in 2000, I counted two Gore signs. Today there are hundreds of Kerry/Edwards signs ... at least as many as their are Bush signs, and from what I hear my area is full of Independents.

In the past election, our town voted R, so we shall see if the signs are an indicator that MN is definately going Blue. :hi:
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:37 PM
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32. Flooded with TV ads in Las Vegas
Both ways. Predictably nothing positive at all from Bush. One good Kerry spot with Kerry speaking directly throughout, regarding his plans. An anti-Bush spot specifies his failures while you see a goofy and smiling Bush acknowledging applause, apparently oblivious to everything.

The one that ticks me off is a Swift Boat commercial with two women who were widowed during Vietnam and try to blame Kerry. One vile blonde woman with glasses has this stern look throughout and say Kerry gave comfort to the enemy and she will never forget Kerry or his words. It seemingly runs all day and night.

There are also two new commericals saying John Kerry and his liberal friends in Congress tried to raise taxes 40 billion times, or whatever absurd numbers they use. Obviously I exaggerate.

Every state has Kerry momentum now. I can't project Nevada because the national security concerns here are widespread and cut pro-Bush, based on my day-to-day talks with casino employees, or locals in general. The registration drive was particularly frenzied the past month and especially in Hispanic and depressed areas. Early voting begins October 16.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:57 AM
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60. Oh my God I hate those Swift Boat Hags
I wonder how much volunteer work they've done for vets in the past 30 years. Uh...probably none I'm guessing. :mad:

But great to hear about the NV momentum. That's why the rethugs are slamming you guys with ads. The demographics of your state have changed in a way that's not good for them and they're hating it.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:38 PM
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33. Red state: Lots of Republican & affiliated 527 ads
both against Kerry and state and local candidates. The anti-Kerry one from Bush-Cheney in heavy rotation is on "Kerry and the liberals in Congress." DeMint's ads actually alternate (I mean literally, one after the other) with the National Republican Senatorial Committee's anti-Tenenbaum ads. Even a guy running for State Senate has to put up with the double team, a 527 and his opponent both running tv ads. Wheeee.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:21 PM
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34. Iowa is so "in play"
BENTON ST., IOWA CITY, IA -- A young mother is especially pleased as her drive to downtown is along Benton St. -- a street with 14 "Kerry/Edwards" signs and 2 Smirky/Snarly signs.

UPDATE: After debate No. 1, one of the S/S signs were taken down. Most likely not stolen, because neighbors still have 2 S/S in their yard, as well as three other GOP signs.

I see Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers, all the time. I see a few S/S stickers, but I've never seen one on a car -- only SUVs and Trucks -- not judging, just observing for the purposes of social science. Have seen two "Bush/Cheney Farm & Ranch Team" stickers -- which CRACK me the fuck up.

Caveat: I live in what the right-wingers call "The People's Republic of Johnson County."

However, I think a couple polls show that IA has switched back to Kerry. I just hope all that absentee voting goes OK -- much more complicated than rolling out to the local church, IMHO.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:38 AM
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71. I never consider it good news when I hear that a state is in play that
I expected to go Kerry in the first place.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:23 PM
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35. I'm happy that Bushco is wasting so much money in Oregon
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:29 PM
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38. I heard OR was alarmingly close
Cause MY experience w/ Oregonians is that they are by and large progressive (i.e. smart). But then again, that's in Portland. I'll bet Bend is huge Bush country. GAWD if Bush won Oregon that would be a disaster...say it won't happen.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:51 PM
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50. It won't happen. Latest SUSA poll has Bush below 40%
SUSA's probably a little on the error-toward-Kerry side, but most of the polls I see have Kerry's percentage being greater than Bush's by around 8 points. There have been some close polls recently, but they seem to be outliers and they have some sampling problems. Riley's poll, for example oversampled Republicans enormously.

Registration has gone well for Dems since January, and according to the Secretary of State's office, D registrations have outstripped R registrations pretty well this year.

Add to that that I have never seen a pro-candidate response like the pro-Kerry sentiment that exists in Oregon right now in all my born days. It is the successor to the anti-Bush sentiment that has been building here since the Cheney/Bush junta assumed its unguided-missile command. The Republicans with a libertarian bent do not appreciate Ashcroft's constant fucking with our state mandates, our assisted suicide law, etc. The moderates and liberals have never been so galvanized in favor of one candidate and committed to ridding the nation of the other.

Even the Oregonian has decided to endorse Kerry instead of their 2000 favorite Bush. That stinging editorial is published in tomorrow's paper.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 12:13 AM
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51. The OREGONIAN endorsed BUSH?
Say WHAT? Is the Oregonian a repuke rag or something? I didn't know that...
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:07 AM
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61. Yeah, the Oregonian thinks of itself as big-time journalism....
but it's a Repuke rag for sure. They throw a bone to a liberal columnist once in a while, and they've HAD to run lots of anti-Bush letters just because I'm sure that's what they've gotten the most of. The RW letters are definitely a scraping of the barrel bottom. And there's this moronic hack called David Reinhard who always gets a prime spot for his simplistic blathering. Big money will always call the shots.
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 PM
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45. Florida
God, who the hell knows with this state? In Miami, I'm still seeing more K/E stickers than B/C ones, but not as much of a difference as early-on. I usually get a few favorable comments any time I wear my K/E button or any of my anti-Bush tees, but I also get a fair share of death-ray looks. Miami, Broward, Palm Beach should still go blue, but the panhandle and central/left coast areas are probably still red. Don't know anyone out there, so I can't really check.

But I've been saying all along that we shouldn't EVER figure a Florida win into any electoral math. Do it without us, just in case.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:13 AM
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57. minnesota
in the cities, there are Kerry signs everywhere, but we have visits from both campaigns every week (bush was here today, as was Kerry's daughter, and tomorrow Edwards will be here) so I am sure it is still close. Those rural folks seem to go red.
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zinsky Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:36 AM
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64. Minnesota - The Chimp Was Here Yesterday

Cynthia:

I too live in the great state of Minnesota. I have long been proud of our liberal tradition here. Unfortunately, because of the high quality of life we enjoy here, due mainly to our long-standing progressive policies, we have had an influx of more conservative voters in the last few years, who want to reap the benefits of our way of life without paying for it. Also, with the untimely death of Paul Wellstone, Norm ("plastic smile") Coleman is now our Senator, so the Chimp has a lackey here who is more than willing to lick his cowboy boots on demand.

The core of Minnesotans who have lived here a while, are strongly Democratic and progressive. Unfortunately, the people who have moved here recently are Bush's stooges, and seem to want to turn this into the Mississippi of the North. Screw 'em!

zinsky
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:40 PM
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77. Why do they even bring him around?
All is does is slow us down.:9
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:05 AM
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66. West Virginia
From my standpoint, we are still at a draw here in Northern WV. I see just about the same amount of signs/stickers for Kerry as I do Bush. This area tends to be a lot of churchgoing soccer moms in expensive SUV's. With that in mind, it is really promising that I have seen a lot of KE signs going up lately. I live on the corner across from a fairly busy intersection where my yard sign gets a ton of exposure......3 months and no vandalism yet.

As far as the ads, there are a ton of them. And, much to my dismay, I was driving home the other day and the NRA's new poodle billboard was put up on my way home. :puke: Someone went and put a bunch of KE signs around it though!

Bottom line, since the debates I have become much more optimistic about the election. For a while it seemed like things were just "stopped" you know? Now, I really feel like we do have that momentum back, and I am very confident about next month....I think KE will win in a landslide. :bounce:

Meg
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:28 AM
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68. Hi smbolisnch!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:22 AM
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74. Thanks!
Hey there! Thanks for the welcome!! :hi:

Meg
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:09 AM
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67. I feel Wisconsin swinging our way in a huge fashion.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:41 AM
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72. Mostly good news from Michigan
There seems to be momentum in Michigan for Kerry. I think the polls show Kerry's lead expanding.

I see an ad from the "Coalition to Protect Marriage" or whatever talking about "Liberal" John Kerry's record on marriage, but oth3r than that, no 527 activity I know of.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:38 PM
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76. Cheers to MI an WI- previous poster
We still love ya here in MN. Let's hope sanity rules.

Bye Twins, hello Vikes!
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