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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:27 PM
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AOL Sub-headline on Welcome Screen: Bush's bulge
Stirs Rumors


http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041009173409990004

Likeing it to a rumor that Elvis would moderate the third debate.

I didn't know they'd agreed to Clinton doing that!

Shithead Rethugs attempt to reduce possibilies by ridicule.

One on one, let these guys try this with me. I'll toast their nuts.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:28 PM
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1. They can ridicule all they want - it's starting to stick. Yee-haw! (n/t)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:49 PM
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8. Seems reciever idea is getting legs - below is "first hand knowledge"

To the mods: Below are portions of a letter from Bush contract interpreter Fred Burks to Bob Fertik of democrats.com detailing Burks' exclusive assessment of Bush wearing an earpiece. If you must, move this thread but I urge you not to since this is the FIRST news from someone with first-hand knowledge.


From: Fred Burks

As a deep insider myself, I have independent confirmation of President Bush using an earpiece to assist him in communicating intelligently with others. I've worked as a contract Indonesian language interpreter with the US State Department for over 18 years. I first started interpreting at the presidential level in 1995 at a White House meeting for President Clinton and President Suharto of Indonesia with their top advisors. You can read a short story of the many small miracles that led me to interpret for presidents at www.gcforall.org/inspirations (scroll down to Issue #1, where it is the second story).

On September 19, 2001, just eight days after 9/11, I was in the White House interpreting for an important 90-minute meeting between President Bush and President Megawati Soekarnoputri of Indonesia. This meeting made national news on all the TV networks, as at the time, the administration wanted to show they were supportive of our Muslim friends. Indonesia has the largest population of Muslims in the world. Over 80% of Indonesia's 220 million people are Muslim.

This was my first time interpreting for Bush. The previous day, I had been given the 22 points Bush would be covering in this meeting in order to familiarize myself with the topics to be discussed. About half of these "talking points" had to do with terrorism, which was to be fully expected given what had just happened. The other points, however, involved many details of Indonesian politics which even I would have had a tough time addressing, let alone Bush, who I assumed had limited knowledge of Indonesia.

During those 90 minutes, President Bush not only covered all the points, he covered them quite well and without any notes! Not once during the entire meeting did he look at any notes or receive cues from anyone present in discussing the Indonesian political situation with depth and intelligence. I was astonished! "How could this be?" I asked myself. It was a huge surprise. I concluded either that Bush was much more intelligent than we had been led to believe, or that somehow someone was feeding answers to him through a hidden earpiece. At the time, I really didn't know which of these was true.

Having worked directly with President Bush twice since then, and having additionally talked with many of my fellow interpreters who have worked directly with him, I am now certain that he could not have had that much knowledge of Indonesia. He doesn't even read the daily newspaper to keep up with what's being reported in the press. I am convinced that he must have been using some sort of earpiece through which someone was telling him what to say.

Having interpreted for media guests touring large TV studios, I've seen how the news anchors all have hidden earphones, and how the news producers are feeding them all sorts of information even as they talk live on TV. "20 seconds to a commercial," "15 seconds of filler here," "wrap it up quick " etc... This is standard practice for live TV shows. The "let me finish" comment made by Bush in the debate was only confirmation of something I already knew.

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727

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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:30 PM
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2. They should have a quick vote on this subject on AOL!
We'd show them who believes it. Can we send them Fred the interpreter's take on this?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:32 PM
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3. They'd just wipe it clean
until it gets Freeped...

This, my friends, is real fascism. You may laugh - you may htink it's overreaction - but it ain't.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:32 PM
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4. the fact that they're RESPONDING to the rumor is convincing me it's true!
if it was really a baseless conspiracy theory, they'd be ignoring it. ridicule is their way of hiding the truth.

honestly, in the republican model of the presidency, the titular president is really just a spokesman, who spends all his time campaigning and fundraising and occassionally giving a televised speech or a press conference. at most, they credit their presidents with setting the broad themes or making the final decision once others have boiled it down to a simple mulptiple choice question.

in this model, why WOULDN'T they give their spokesperson the same (or better) technology than the newscasters use?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:02 PM
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12. that's what i was thinking. nt
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:35 PM
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5. L.A. Times had a story on it today.
It was on page 39, but at least they ran it.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:37 PM
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6. I can't believe this story is getting traction.
First Salon, then NYTimes, then WaPo, now AOL.

Like I said, I can't believe it, but I am loving every minute of it!
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:46 PM
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7. I'd love to believe he was wired and caught, but was the person telling
him what to say High on Coke, drunk or both?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:52 PM
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9. What the F*** is growing out of his back?
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:55 PM
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10. A Shell - Bush is turning into a box turtle
He's got that bobbing turtle head thing going well. On to the rest of the body.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:01 PM
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11. on another thread, someone posted a lightened photo
where the bulge and the wire really stand out. i don't know :shrug:,
looks obvious to me, especially in that lightened photo.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:13 PM
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13. here it is
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:22 PM
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16. thanks. :) nt
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:14 PM
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14. Did someone post a photo yesterday showing one from the first
and one from the second, both showing the bulge ?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:25 PM
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17. yes, but it seems that only the first-debate bulge
was consistent in every photo/video.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:19 PM
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15. I remember a device
called a "bone phone" which was sold for awhile via TV ads. It was billed as a replacement for regular earphones. It rested on the shoulders and instead of emitting an audible signal it vibrated the collar bones enough to vibrate the ear drums creating an audible response in the ear. Such a device would be largely undetectable if worn under a suit coat.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:34 PM
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18. i'm confident that ex-cia papa bush knows all the tricks!
and, in this instance, something was visible.
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