Nobel Peace Prize goes to George W Bush for inventing the Hydrogen Car

[opihimoimoi]

Saving Mankind from huge energy shortages which would mean less food, less transportation, less fun.

Bush has worked very hard on this project and revealed the existence of his invention on Friday last in Mo.

At the debate woth Sen Kerry, Bush described the car as a Hydrogen car that is lighter than air, "It will float from Point A to Point B." sez the Dufus in charge.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Like the Hindenburg.

Did he do his research on one of the Internets?

[NC_Nurse]

2. Does it run on

his hot air? There's plenty of that!

[Kierkegaard]

3. Next he'll get the Pulitzer for best fiction:

"Iraq: rationale for going to war."

[ClassWarrior]

4. He calls it his "Hydrogen Generated Car."

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[cheshire]

5. While hydrogen implies water it does in fact use my petrolium oil that gas

[Xipe Totec]

6. Seriously, here is what I don't understand about Hydrogen Cars

Where are we going to get the hydrogen to run them? Sure, hydrogen burns cleanly, but you have to manufacture the hydrogen which takes energy. Where do you get the energy to make hydrogen? Well, either fossil fuels or nuclear. So where is the environmental benefit? :shrug:

[htuttle]

8. They'll get it from hydrogen mines on the moons of Jupiter

That's one of the reasons Bush's Mars Mission project is so important -- the hydrogen miners are going to need to go someplace for R & R. It's hard work, you know.

:crazy:

[opihimoimoi]

9. They will mine for the SPICE that produces the Hydrogen...LOL

on the moons of Jupiter/Saturn/and Ur anus

[ClassWarrior]

13. You mean the spice that's really giant worm poop?

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[vinnievin777]

7. He has become

A real entirementaless.

Vinnie
http://www.vinnievin.com

[ClassWarrior]

10. LOL

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[ohio_dem_52186]

11. Hydrogen Rant from a Automotive Engineer

I don't know if anybody has had a good rant on hydrogen on DU... Here it is anyway, people ,ay know this already, but here goes:

First, despite what you read, hydrogen powered engines (not fuel cells) do not have low emissions. Their tailpipe emissions of NOx are on par with diesel vehicles. Their efficiency also is not very good.

Second, Hydrogen is NOT a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage medium, just like a battery. Since hydrogen can not be found in it's free gaseous form, it must be derived from another energy source. Currently, that is natural gas, which we are running out of rapidly.

The dream of the future is hydrogen produced from electricity by elecrolysis, which is basically a fuel cell operating in reverse. At best, about half of the energy coming in gets turned into H2. This H2 is then transported to a refueling station, acring more losses. The fuel cell in the vehicle converts the H2 back into electricity with another loss of energy of over 50%. In this simple analysis, you lost 75% of your electricity. This is actually optomistic...

A more direct path is to produce your electricity, transport it over the existing electrical grid, and use it to charge an electric vehicle. The only drawback here is electric vehicle range and recharge time. But for most daily driving, that is not an issue. The efficiency of this process is much, much better. Almost twice as good as George's fuel cell. The EV1 failed in California because of the lead-acid battery's used. With the advent of mass produced hybrid electric vehicles, a redesigned EV1 with the nickel-metal hydride batteries would be a much improved car in both range and price.

Third, the emissions are not zero. You need to slap on all of the emissions that occured upstream of the vehicle. With today's power mix, that means a fuel cell powered by elecrolysis is a coal powered car, since that is where we get our electricity from. Coal is the worst CO2 producing fuel we have...

Don't get me wrong, fuel cell's have a place in the future. But they are not all of the hype that the Mr. Bush says they are.

Kerry policy on renewables, to me at least, is a much more effective near term plan.

If anybody wants specific info on this, let me know.

[ClassWarrior]

12. Don't yell at us! Blame Bush*!!

He frickin invented the stupid thing! (Or so he says...)

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[ohio_dem_52186]

15. No yelling implied... Note that I qualified my rant saying

that people here may already know this.

At least all the people on this thread know that it is BS, just like most of what Bush says...

[ClassWarrior]

17. I was just kidding. All I know about hydrogen is that...

...Wired magazine thinks it could be our energy future. But as for feasibility, idunno...

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[opihimoimoi]

16. Bush will say ANYTHING to make us think he knows what the hell he

talking about and look smart at the same time...

Trouble with that is he ain't smart(he don read) and he don't know what the hell he talking about... a 2 fer.

Look for Kerry to eat him up like roast pig....

Bush is Toast....

[ParanoidPat]

14. I hear he created his own Internet to compete with Gore's!

Now we have the Internets. :evilgrin:

[opihimoimoi]

18. Bush is a pathetic President of the worst kind, IGNORANT and ARROGANT

It cannot get worse than that folks. Unless we get the First Dufus outta there, we all look bad.

[merh]

19. I thought he invented the "internets"

at least, the 2nd internet or 3rd, I'm not sure how many there are!
:shrug:

[opihimoimoi]

20. The man lives in LALA LAND FAR FAR AWAY

He is indeed a sad joke.....

[A-Schwarzenegger]

21. He invented the hydrogenATED vehicle.

While drunk once he carved a little bus out of margarine
and pushed it around on the floor till it melted.

[opihimoimoi]

22. He invented shit..if anything,,, LOLOness in the White House...

For the very first time...America has a DUFUS as President... that gives off a horrible message to the World...

How can America elect a DUFUS to this High Office...? easy, swallow the BS from the PUB Brainwashing Apparatus...

[ClassWarrior]

23. If he didn't invent it, he polishes an awful lot of it.

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[PeaceForever]

24. The original poster's point is well-taken.

Giving the Nobel Peace Prize to a Kenyan environmentalist is just as absurd as giving it to Dumbya for developing the hydrogen car.

While combatting deforestation in Kenya is a great cause, it has zero to do with peace.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

25. Preventing the destruction of your home

does have something to do with peace,
just as destroying your own home
has something to do with war.