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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:55 PM
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Pentagon: New Iraq war plan is meant to stop...Kerry
from AmericaBlog:

Another day, another admission from the Bush administration that its policies in the war on terror are not driven by how effective they are at stopping the enemy, but rather at how effective they are at stopping John Kerry.

Reuters reports that the Bush administration has come up with a "new plan" to quell Iraq's insurgency. Then buried in the story you read this:

Civilians involved in the process also told the Times that the new approach was formulated in part to counter criticism from President Bush's Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry, that the administration has no plan for Iraq.

So the plan wasn't formulated simply to win the war on terror, to pacify Iraq, to spare the further deaths of US troops and innocent Iraqi civilians, no, the new Bush military plan in Iraq - the new plan to send our soldiers into war - is in part taking place to help Bush's re-election. Read that again. Some US soldiers are going to die in the next few weeks engaging the Iraqi insurgency, and their death is going to happen because George Bush needed them to put their lives in danger taking on the insurgency IN ORDER TO HELP BUSH'S NUMBERS.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/2004_10_03_americablog_archive.html#109724780057766687
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:05 PM
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1. Sounds about right to me.
The man is a murderer with no thought to anything but power and the retention of that power. I equate him with Ted Bundy.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:12 PM
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3. yup. can you think of anything we can do about this? (nt)
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baltodemvet Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:08 PM
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14. Well, YEAH! What we can do is FIRE BUSH!! (nt)
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:07 PM
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2. This is very sick
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:14 PM
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4. I truly detest Bush.
He has no moral compass and people exist solely for the purpose of being useful to him. Ass.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:15 PM
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5. all they care about is staying in power at any cost. (nt)
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:25 PM
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6. Email this to Chris Matthews
If he really hates this war and isn't just playing for ratings then this should really piss him off! Either way we will find out were he stands.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:45 PM
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8. Chris Matthews doesn't even know where he stands...Olberman??
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:39 PM
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7. Now we know what Karl Rove meant by October Surprise
Remember Bush kept trying to put himself as Ronald Reagan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise

October Surprise is the allegation that representatives of the 1980 Ronald Reagan presidential campaign arranged the Iran-Contra deal well in advance of the 1980 election where Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter. October Surprise is also the title of a book on the subject by Gary Sick. This usage of the term describes a situation where a Presidential incumbent uses his office to do something very popular at the last minute before election day, to increase his chances of getting reelected. Thus the alleged conspiracy was precisely to prevent an "October Surprise" that would have aided Carter, the incumbent, effected by postponing the release of the hostages held by Iran until after the election.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:47 PM
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9. Reagan had Alzheimer's and on his worst day he was 10X smarter
than *. The American people got to meet the real John Kerry and John Edwards. They also got to see what a doofus shrub is.


Surprise!

Kerry's in.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:55 PM
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10. what is ironic in that same page Bush Senior was invovled
Carter was at the time dealing with the Iran hostage crisis and the hostile regime of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Those who aver that a deal was made allege that certain Republicans with CIA connections, including George H. W. Bush, arranged to have the hostages held through October, until Reagan could defeat Carter in early November, and then be released. The hostages were in fact released on the very day of Reagan's inauguration, twenty minutes after his inaugural address. The timing of the release did not spark much press attention at the time.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:02 PM
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11. the only way bush is gonna win is to cheat...and that's really it isn't it
?
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:05 PM
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12. Of course, was there ever a doubt?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:07 PM
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13. All Du'ers should be paying attention to this
Not because they cheated, but because it invovled Bush family! Meaning this could be his daddy at work. Remember not to long ago I heard on tv that Bush Senior was wanting reports of what was going on in the White House. This might be a link to the reason why!
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solarspa Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:18 PM
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15. I was suspicious
when this campaign started. When the general was asked (on the news) why Samara, he said because it was the easiest town to take. The news "event" is supposed to make people think he actually has a plan. Why did it take so long to take an "easy" town. Actually, probably the military and the Iraqis did a superb job but you won't see them go into those other cities before the election.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:42 AM
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20. I loved the subscript on the headline for Samarra
VICTORY IN SAMARRA
125 (or something like that) insurgents killed.

If that's a victory in this "modern lightining war on terror" then why does the headline read so much like a WWI headline proclaiming victory at the cost of thousands dead for a mile of land?
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:21 PM
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16. Too much. Too little. Too late.
On the other hand... all wars are political. How else can you get "war presidents?"
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:08 PM
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17. but he also said he was the peace president...flip/flop
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:19 AM
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18. I miised that. When was it, Christmas? Did he call himself the Prince of
Peace?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:33 AM
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19. Bush is playing politics with the lives of our men and women in battle!!
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 12:33 AM by Roland99
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1032731

:evilfrown:

They are repeating the mistakes of the Vietnam war!!!

No wonder, it's some of the same fucking assholes!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:21 AM
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21. helping Bush numbers is not a worthy cause?? Ask Sinclair shareholders?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:34 AM
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22. saddam = stable, no Saddam = civil war
bush can try to manipulate the situation in Iraq to serve his political needs all he wants ... but what he can't do is control the insurgency ...

and the sad truth is that Kerry can't fix Iraq either ... Kerry will quickly realize that the only path in Iraq is "out of there" ...

the choice in Iraq was whether to tolerate Saddam and leave Iraq with a repressive regime that was extremely stable or to oust Saddam and create a massive power vacuum that can only lead to civil war ... the choice was made ... to pretend now that the "right strategerie" will lead Iraqis to the wonderful world of democracy is absurd ...

the reason Kerry is better on Iraq than bush is that bush will continue to make matters worse there ... Kerry will eventually come to understand that withdrawal is the only real option ... it's too bad he doesn't believe he could campaign on this theme ... i have faith he'll get there after the election ... all other paths are folly ...
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:38 AM
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23. kick to destroy these fascists. Send this to Olberman! (nt)
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