How Bush Won Round 2 ??!!

[TimeToGo]

October 11, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
How Bush Won Round 2
By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Washington

When pro-Kerry commentators solemnly pronounce Debate Round 2 to have been "a draw" - you know George Bush won that round.

The president won because he went in with a theme spoken by the heavyweight champion Joe Louis, just before his 1946 rematch victory over the lighter, faster Billy Conn: "He can run, but he can't hide." (The Brown Bomber caught up with Conn in the eighth round of that first TV spectacular.)

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Keep reading:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/opinion/11safire.html

I think Mr. Safire is practicing the ancient art of wishful thinking.

[Kierkegaard]

1. I think this ancient art has another name:

stupidity...

[Eurobabe]

2. safire is an a$$hole

no other word for him.

[liberal_in_GA]

3. Safire

is a hacky old Bush shill. :puke:

[Pax Argent]

4. The actual ancient art you are referring to is "Whoredom".

Near as I know it doesn't get any older than that.

[Arancaytar]

5. Reverse it.

"When pro-Kerry commentators solemnly pronounce Debate Round 2 to have been "a draw" - you know George Bush won that round."

Well, the only ones who called this fish-in-barrel-being-flattened debate a draw were those rooting for Bush... What does that say?

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. Exactly! It wasn't the pro-Kerry's it was the pro-Bushies

and I thought I caught Saffire being one of them saying it was a draw. (on edit, it was Kristol that said this. Still, he's been pro-Bush all the way.)

Unless their boy hit it out of the park, which he didn't, then Kerry won! Personally, I thought Bush blew it at the moment he charged about a half-hour into it. From then on out, it was down hill! But I acknowledged I was viewing from a bias.

I was astonished with the pundits and analysts following the debate saying Bush did what he needed to do...it was a draw...Bush is back in the race...etc. I looked at my husband and said, "Did they watch the same debate???" Unbelievable!

Cokie Roberts was on this weekend telling the audience, "If you watched afterward, everyone who asked questions were all around President Bush and Kerry was there just looking sort of lost and alone." Did she get a pro-Bush feed or something? There were more people around Kerry than there were Bush!

Another thing I noticed about the audience...those who liked Bush watched Kerry. Those who like Kerry watched Bush. I confirmed it by looking at who those people went to. Some of the reactions from those people were pretty funny, but you could tell who was for who. So, undecided with leaning toward one or the other? NOT!

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Cokie Roberts is a pro-Bush feed.

!!

[Norquist Nemesis]

14. LOL!

It's disgusting she gets any air time at all!

[MSgt213]

6. Mr. Saffire needs to step away from the Koolaid He makes a big deal

about the $84.00 in the timber company but neglects to explain why there was confusion on what Bush actually owns. Bush owns $84.00 in an oil and gas company that later (two years) bought 50% of the timber company Kerry was referring to. But Kerry's point is still sound on the tax issue. But he should have said that Bush owns an oil and gas company ($84) and still gets the tax credit as a small business owner, not a timber company. FactCheck got this fact wrong, but clarified it on their website.

[izzie]

7. My God old white men should just go home.

Joe? Who would recall him and to use him with the white mans party is really silly. Besides that Bush won what? I guess he came and only acted half crazy so that was something. Can anyone in their right mind think half the voters would think to put this man in that office. It just is such a shame for us Americans.

[Jack Rabbit]

9. Wishful thinking? More like denial

Did Mr. Safire see the same debate as the rest of us? Bush was a rude, boorish bully who continued to oversimplify the most complicated issues and didn't have a clue about the facts.

On one occasion, Mr. Bush insisted on having his way, damn the rules, and continue to speak as Charlie Gibson attempted to ask another question. Perhaps we should expect that of someone who didn't accept the will of the voters in 2000.

Yes, Senator Kerry voted against an anti-abortion bill. To Bush, that's simple. That the bill contained no provision for the mother's health or for making exceptions for parental notification based on specific circumstances means nothing to him.

Most importantly, Mr. Bush still won't admit to error and still doesn't have his fact straight. He continued to insist that the weapons inspection were ineffective because Saddam was expert at hiding the weapons he didn't have by late 2002 from them; we went to war to disarm a tyrant who had already disarmed. What part of Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction does Mr. Bush not understand?

Of course, like most people here at DU, I am at a loss to think of a "pro-Kerry commentator". Mr. Safire doesn't name one. Kerry won the debate hands down and anybody trying to say it was a draw is probably a Bush commentator acting like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. "All right, then," he says, after King Arthur has dismembered him in combat, "we'll call it a draw."

[demokatgurrl]

11. Safire is full of $hit. And he knows it. n/t

[MikeG]

12. Safire - another nattering nabob of negativity.

[atommom]

13. WTF!?? Are we the only people who haven't been drinking the Kool-Aid?

:shrug: