What is Kerry's plan for Iraq? I need some talking points.

[Fluffdaddy]

I have a semi-Bush on the ropes an ready to go for Kerry.

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In that order

Thanks

[Czolgosz]

1. Go to johnkerry.com

America was born in pursuit of an idea - that a free people with diverse beliefs can govern themselves in peace.
Throughout our history, we have forged powerful alliances to defend, encourage, and promote that idea around the world. Through two World Wars, the Cold War, the Gulf War and Kosovo, America led instead of going it alone. We respected the world - and the world respected us.

Today, our leadership has walked away from more than a century of American leadership in the world to embrace a new - and dangerously ineffective - American disregard for the world. They bully instead of persuade. They act alone when they could assemble a team. They confuse leadership with going it alone. They fail to understand that real leadership means standing by your principles and rallying others to join you.

John Kerry and John Edwards believe in a better, stronger America - an America that is respected, not just feared. An America that listens and leads - that cherishes freedom, safeguards our people, uplifts others, forges alliances, and deserves respect. This is the America they believe in. This is the America they are fighting for. And this is the America we can be.

Today, we face three great challenges above all others - First, to win the global war against terror; Second, to stop the spread of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons; Third, to promote democracy, freedom, and opportunity around the world, starting by winning the peace in Iraq. To meet these challenges, John Kerry's national security policy will be guided by four imperatives:

Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances
The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale - to utilize every available resource to get the terrorists before they can strike at us. As president, John Kerry will lead a coalition of the able - because no force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies.


Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats
John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.


Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal
The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.


Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil
To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment.


There is much more than this, but this should get you started.

[Lefta Dissenter]

3. This is what makes me crazy

How many people (and I'm not talking about the Original Poster, I'm talking about people giving their reasons for not being ready to vote for Kerry) say, "Well, he didn't give specifics on his plan for Iraq." GO TO THE DAMNED WEBSITE!!! How is he supposed to give a plan to resolve this horrendous mess, in sound bites and 30-second responses??? Makes me nuts. :crazy:

[BlueEyedSon]

2. It ain't soundbites, but its all here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html

[Fluffdaddy]

5. I went to johnkerry.and it says NOTHING about What Kerry's plan for is

I need a thought out plan written down plan. Not a sound Bit

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b)
C)
and so on

[Fluffdaddy]

6. nytimes does nothing for me.........No plan there either

[BlueEyedSon]

10. Either you didn't read it or you're dyslexic.

The plan is there.

Staying a failed ad-hoc course of action (which includes killing civilians, prolonging chaos and emptying the US treasury for war profiteers) isn't much of a plan either.

"If you're in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging."

[fishface]

11. I think he's a freeper myself.

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[Fluffdaddy]

13. To be honest I am dyslexic...........................But I get by ok

Happy they found a word for it.........LOL

[MissMarple]

16. Here's a snip from the NYTimes article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html

This refers to the war on terror, not specifically with the war on Iraq. And this isn't an A. B. C. problem. It is more process and approach. How you do domething defines the product. George will give us a shabby product.
It's on page six.

''I think we can do a better job,'' Kerry said, ''of cutting off financing, of exposing groups, of working cooperatively across the globe, of improving our intelligence capabilities nationally and internationally, of training our military and deploying them differently, of specializing in special forces and special ops, of working with allies, and most importantly -- and I mean most importantly -- of restoring America's reputation as a country that listens, is sensitive, brings people to our side, is the seeker of peace, not war, and that uses our high moral ground and high-level values to augment us in the war on terror, not to diminish us.''

And here's another from page 10.
"Biden, who is perhaps Kerry's closest friend in the Senate, suggests that Kerry sees Bush's advisers as beholden to the same grand and misguided theories. ''John and I never believed that, if you were successful in Iraq, you'd have governments falling like dominoes in the Middle East,'' he told me. ''The neo-cons of today are 'the best and the brightest' who brought us Vietnam. They have taken a construct that's flawed and applied it to a world that isn't relevant.''

In fact, Kerry and his advisers contend that the occupation of Iraq is creating a reverse contagion in the region; they say the fighting -- with its heavy civilian casualties and its pictures, beamed throughout the Arab world, of American aggression -- has been a boon to Al Qaeda recruiters. They frequently cite a Pentagon memo, leaked to the media last year, in which Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wondered whether Al Qaeda was recruiting new terrorists faster than the U.S. military could capture or kill them. ''God help us if we damage the shrine in Najaf,'' Richard Holbrooke told me on a day when marines surrounded insurgent Shiites inside the shrine, ''and we create a new group of Shiites who some years from now blow up the Statue of Liberty or something like that, all because we destroyed the holiest site in Shiism.''"

and another.

"Kerry's view, that the 21st century will be defined by the organized world's struggle against agents of chaos and lawlessness, might be the beginning of a compelling vision. The idea that America and its allies, sharing resources and using the latest technologies, could track the movements of terrorists, seize their bank accounts and carry out targeted military strikes to eliminate them, seems more optimistic and more practical than the notion that the conventional armies of the United States will inevitably have to punish or even invade every Islamic country that might abet radicalism."

[welshTerrier2]

4. bush will only give us more of the same or worse ...

first, a new president provides a fresh start ... bush has alienated the whole world and has absolutely no credibility with the Iraqi people ... if the people we're supposedly trying to liberate believe we're doing nothing but occupying their country for our own selfish interests, the insurgencies will not end until Americans withdraw in defeat ... will they trust John Kerry? probably not at first but Kerry brings at least the possibility of charting a new course ... with bush, failure in Iraq is guaranteed ... with Kerry, Iraqis have at least a little hope ...

and second, I don't think the U.S. will ever be successful in Iraq ... whether he was evil, a threat to the U.S., or anything else, Saddam created a very stable Iraq ... I'm afraid that now Iraq is headed for civil war no matter who is the U.S. president ... but if civil war is inevitable there, I'd rather have someone in office who did not make the tragic misjudgments bush has made ... I expect Kerry will do a good job transitioning us out of Iraq but I'm positive, after seeing bush's colossal miscalculations, that bush will do nothing but make a horrible situation much worse ... bush never understood, and still does not understand, what would happen in Iraq after the initial military push ...

bush's war is killing this country in many ways ... and there's no indication bush will ever be willing to acknowledge his mistakes there ...

[Fluffdaddy]

7. The Best I could find was this................Not bad either

http://www.democrats.org/milvet/iraq_contrast.html

[fishface]

8. Welcome Freetard...

I expect we'll see your departure any time now

[Roland99]

9. His plan is on his website

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/our_plan_for_america.pdf

* Make the creation of a stable and secure environment
our immediate priority in Iraq in order to lay the foundation
for a sustainable democracy,

* Fully internationalize the non-Iraqi security and reconstruction
personnel in Iraq, to share the costs and
burdens, end the continuing perception of a U.S.
occupation, and help coordinate reconstruction efforts,
draft the constitution, and organize elections,

* Persuade NATO to deploy a significant portion of the
force that will be needed to secure and win the peace
in Iraq,

* Plan for Iraq's future by working with our allies to forgive
Iraq's multi-billion dollar debt and by supporting
the development of a new Iraqi constitution and the
political arrangements needed to protect minority rights.
We will also convene a regional conference with Iraq's
neighbors to secure a pledge to respect Iraq's borders
and not to interfere in its internal affairs,

* Launch a massive and accelerated training effort to build
Iraqi security forces that can provide real security for the
Iraqi people, including a major role for NATO.

[Fluffdaddy]

12. I'm a paid support here for over two years. I Fucking dare you to call me

a Freerep or a Damn Troll. This it the kind of BS the freereps post when you post hard questions at their site...................NOT US. Damn you Damn you to hell


Read my past posts an call me a freereps

I think what I posted was a fair question

[IIgnoreNobody]

14. Whatever. Here's Kerry's Iraq plan:

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/iraq.html

[sandnsea]

15. It's about honest & credibility

Using NGO's to do the construction, getting the money to the people. Opening bidding so it's fair and not seen as a give-away to US corporations. Acting in a way that shows the world this really is about Irai freedom, not US ownership of Iraq. It's how it's all implemented, which is difficult to relay to people in a sound byte. What are we building 14 military bases for? Why is Bush going to stop fighting in Iraq for the next 3 weeks, is that really the way a commander in chief acts? You have to go deeper than the sound bytes if you want to get to the differences between these two men. The American Dream is on the line, who represents the American Dream? Bush or Kerry. That's what it's all about.