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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:17 AM
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Why do you BELIEVE that Puppet Boy IS wired!?
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:19 AM by goclark
Finally the Media is all over this story!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

They are finally realizing that something is up!

We are the worker bees because we have been noticing the speech tricks for months!

The Media may have too but they were afraid to stick their necks out. We can help them by pointing to examples of what we have known all along.

Since the debates, the American image of Bush has changed dramatically! Finally America is waking UP!

Now is the time to point out what we have been seeing, and the media has been trying to hide... Bush has help when he speaks and he STILL can't lead.

That is a great thing because it goes to the heart of why * is NOT in any position to be president of this magnificent country.

Please give us just one liners or more importantly LINKS to articles and VIDEOS that show how UNSURE he really is. Let's take off the Emperor's cloths! Let's make him take off the ear piece too!

If you are skilled at finding links,searching previous threads or doing google searches that actually show PBoy in the deer in headlights mode, that would be wonderful.

Please repost links that have evidence that something strange is happening with him while speaking to an audience, that would be great!

Please, please do not reply to this link if you are interested in helping the Republicans bully us into believing that it was a vest,a brace,a package of Kleenex on his back,a pucker, an echo, not possible and on and on and on and on.

Let's Roll! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:19 AM
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1. It is obvious
...that he has been wired in one way or another ever since he did his first line of toot.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:21 AM
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2. Keep um coming, great example
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:23 PM
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52. I'll give him some toots to put up his nose...
SBDs - the good stuff.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:22 AM
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3. "Please, please do not reply to this link if you ...
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:23 AM by GreenArrow
are interested in helping the Republicans bully us into believing that it was a vest/a brace,a package of Kleenex on his back,a pucker, an echo, not possible and on and on and on and on."

What about it being a drip IV or some kind of drug self-administration system?
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:25 AM
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5. maybe it was just the monkey on his back?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:30 PM
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54. A COSTA RICAN HOWLER MONKEY
Costa Rica recently howled that they wanted out of the Coalition of the Billing.....
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:26 AM
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6. It can't be a drip
Because he was flying high at the start of the second debate and the drugs were starting to wear off by the end.

Had to be a wire -- who was he saying "Let me finish" to? His higher father?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:29 AM
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8. yeah, but a drip'd be allright
don't ya think?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:35 AM
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12. He Was Saying "Let Me Finish" to Jim Lehrer
or possibly Kerry, who appeard to him to be moving on before he was finished. I think adding this to the story threatens to discredit it. It should be about the explanation for the box and wire visible under his jacket.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:24 AM
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4. I just read an article on the channel 2 news site here in Houston
It's getting some play. There was even a survey.

http://www.click2houston.com/politics/3799123/detail.html
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:46 AM
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15. Wow! 34% believe he was wired!


That is great news!

We are not the only ones thinking it now!!!
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 01:03 PM
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34. 56% believe that he was possibly wired or believe he was wired
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 04:54 PM
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36. More than half believe as we do!!



Let's keep rolling!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:21 PM
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51. Vote In This Poll.
thanx gsc2749
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:23 AM
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83. Du this: Was Bush wired poll !!!!!!
Du the Was Bush wired during the presidential debate poll.

37% yes
23% possibly
40% no

http://www.click2houston.com/politics/3799123/detail.ht...
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:26 AM
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7. I'd hand him a Bible, open it to any page, and ask him to read it aloud
I'll be willing to bet that he can't read.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:31 AM
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9. Bush's Interpreter Says Bush Uses Earpiece
Fred Burks:

"The "let me finish" comment made by Bush in the debate was only confirmation of something I already knew..."

"I just wanted to confirm my own strong belief that President Bush is often fed what he is supposed to say at important events. Though he can truly be a friendly guy, I have not found him to be particularly bright or competent."

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:29 PM
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25. This is HUGE! must read n/t
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:33 AM
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10. It Should Be Based on the Direct Visual Evidence
not only the box, but the wire. Going beyond that to claim that Bush is receiving word-for-word instructions is speculation and threatens to discredit the story. We don't actually know what it was, just that it was there.

There's clear visual evidence that the White House has denied. THAT should be what this is all about.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 08:23 PM
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49. Wire by his tie,left side ?
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 08:23 PM by goclark
Someone just sent me this.

I erased my TIVO of the debate.
Is this one for real because I really do see a wire that is on the left side of his tie.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7036.htm
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:34 AM
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11. Because
1. They won't say what it WAS. (A wrinkle in the suit? Come on. They won't even come up with a believable lie!)
2. I believe it was malfunctioning, cutting in an out, leaving Bush to his own (pathetic) devices.
3. Somebody was heard to be saying the lines as Bush REPEATED them.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:50 AM
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19. If they had to switch from an earpiece to an implant
because they couldn't risk a camera catching something in his outer ear, that might explain the "technical" problems he's been having. Remember, Bush has had control of the camera angles during his appearances.

:headbang:
rocknation
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:42 AM
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13. The debates are telling the world the truth about Bush and Kerry
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:43 AM by rocknation
by showing them for what they really are. It's that simple.

With no script, no spin, no control of cameras and no advance knowledge of the questions, Bush is imploding and Kerry is--well, windsurfing!

It's a funny thing about windsurfing, though--you have to accomodate for the currents of both the water and the wind in order to get anywhere. If you plot a course, stay on it, and refuse to deviate, you can find yourself with a one-way ticket to Davey Jones locker...

:headbang:
rocknation
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:46 AM
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14. Bush wearing earpiece during Meet The Press Interview?
According to this website, two more possible examples of Bush's earpiece, with Bush apparently and mistakenly repeating aloud as part of a line of his own dialogue, a correction or instruction given to him by his handler:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:OqsTq7H0JrwJ:radiofreeusa.net/modules.php%3Fop%3Dmodload%26name%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D2123+bush+earpiece&hl=en

Russert: "In light of not finding the weapons of mass destruction, do you believe the war in Iraq is a war of choice or a war of necessity?"

President Bush: "I think that's an interesting question. Please elaborate on that a little bit. A war of choice or a war of necessity? It's a war of necessity. We-- in my judgment, we had no choice when we look at the intelligence I looked at that says the man was a threat."

When Bush said "please elaborate on that a little bit" he did not appear to be asking Russert to elaborate the question. He seemed to be talking almost to himself. Perhaps he was just momentarily confused by an unexpected question. However...

If Bush was wearing an earpiece the odd statement makes more sense. An unseen handler would have had an excellent reason to say "please elaborate on that" to encourage Bush to give more of an answer than "I think that's an interesting question." Seen in this light, when Bush said "please elaborate on that" he mistakenly repeated an instruction from an unseen handler.

This one small incident alone is (obviously) not proof. But there have been others. Consider this quote from a December 15th press conference (italics added):

George Bush: "See, without the tax relief package, there would have been a deficit, but there wouldn't have been the commiserate -- not 'commiserate' -- the kick to our economy that occurred as a result of the tax relief."

Again... he could have just said "not commiserate" by mistake. But why? A less contradictory explanation would be that an unseen handler tried to correct him and instead of understanding the correction, Bush simply repeated what he heard in his earpiece.
<...>
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:50 AM
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20. Perfect! Example! Keep um coming


This is exactly what we want. Examples of when you believed something was happening.


I saw that show and I believed what you believed.

Keep this kicked!
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:47 AM
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16. Here's a thread from yesterday
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:50 AM by dogtag
where the June 5, 2004, Paris press conference is discussed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2474339&mesg_id=2474339&page=

I started paying very close attention to the extremely odd cadence of Shrub's speech after watching the Russert interview. It's pretty clear that he gets audio assistance during the loooooong pauses that precede the short spurts of words.

By sheer happenstance, I watched the June 5 joint press conference with Jacques Chirac and if I hadn't, I would likely be among the doubters. If you can download the video, clear your mind and listen to it very carefully more than once, you will see that we aren't nuts.

As the "is he wired" story gains momentum, more people will start to look for evidence. The more evidence out in the open, the harder the WH will spin. Eventually they'll get caught up in their web of lies.

The point is NOT if audio aid helps Shrub, it's the fact that he has not been speaking for himself. Not very presidential if you ask me. Isn't that the least we should expect from our leader? We're not talking scripted speech here when teleprompters or notes are the norm, we're talking press conferences and debates.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 07:53 PM
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47. Dogtag you rock!


We are talking about the basics here.

We
need
a
President
that
Speaks
In
Complet Sentences.

We
Need
A
President
that does not
say internet(s)

What is wrong with him that can not be corrected?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:48 AM
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17. Let's Roll! Try this
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 11:50 AM by LibertyorDeath
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:49 AM
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18. When someone is so isolated from dissenting opinions and hard
questions by his handlers, I can only imagine he has been enfeebled even more due to intellectual atrophy.

Karen Hughes and Rove won't dare let the Chimp speak unaided during a debate.
The boy needs training wheels.

Also they are desparate to win and have no principles.
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:51 AM
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21. Why The Negotiated Debate Rule For No Cameras From Behind?
which Fox chose to ignore anyway. Nothing about that makes sense unless there is something to hide.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:57 AM
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22. 58% say "yes" or "possibly"
Choice Votes Percentage of 16021 Votes
Yes 5496 34%
Possibly 3805 24%
No 6720 42%


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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:59 AM
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23. Can anyone remember one of his first speeches
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 12:00 PM by rocknation
that the networks decided not to cover at the last minute? I think it was at a college in Georgia. As he spoke, he slowly but repeatedly turned his head from side to side as if he was watching windshield wiper, and his eyes seemed to be focused on the back wall of the room. I knew there was something wrong then!

:headbang:
rocknation
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:07 PM
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24. Great rocknation! Any links

would be appreciated.

We are worker bees helping the media to tell the true story.

Please kick
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:34 PM
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26. Remember "facile" from the debate?

Where did THAT come from? It makes sense if he got a 'prompt' saying 'troops more agile now' and then went on to flub it.

In the debate setting, I don't think he gets entire lines of dialog, just prompts here and there so he doesn't go mute and stand there like a dolt. He's gone over a lot of material, but doesn't have the retention capability that Kerry has going for him. He needs an assist.

Think back to all the times we've seen Shrub come up with a 'hard' word and caress it like a freshly plucked rose. (maybe more like a plucked chicken) He then goes on to define it for us like a maniacal schoolmarm. Where do those big words come from? Not from his ass, but his ear, methinks.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:35 PM
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27. Doubly wired: a receiver AND coked to the gills
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:38 PM
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28. I don't know that I do.
But I certainly DO enjoy the prospect of Republicans having to fend off bullshit speculation for a change.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:43 PM
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29. For me, it's...
The object on his back, and more specifically the S-shaped "cord" that goes from the object up his shoulder, coupled with preceived abnormalities like his blurting out of, "let me finnish", and those odd pauses with that far off stare. Together, these items point to the likelyhood, to me anyway.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:46 PM
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30. former campaigns
I wonder if his wiring goes back to the '00 campaign or even to his texas campaign. does anyone have any pics?
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:56 PM
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31. It is very possible....
I think Kerry should offer to have himself and furious
george go through an ear check by a physician before
the next debate to assure the people there is no
cheating going on. If furious george refuses it would
help keep the story alive!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
59. Yes, on-stage and televised, right before the debate begins
What can Junior say? "Don't touch me!" ROFL! Talk about
getting a deer-in-the-headlights look! He'd melt right there.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 01:02 PM
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32. It's part of the plan. They want this to be brought up.
Ok, my take.

Rove is not an idiot. He knows that if he sends his monkey in there to the debate without a coaching device, he exposed for the moron he is.

So give them what they want. Not too much though, just a hint, a bump, a shape. That is all that they need to make the stories fly. "See, he was wired just like we suspected!" "See the hump/bump/whatever?" There is the proof. Of course this is debunked and the internet servers are red hot with speculation. But there is really no proof. Tinfoilers, conspiracy theorists, you know the usual suspects that hate Chimpy they say.

In actuality he is "packin". A small device that is so advanced and compact and state of the art, it does not need a box/hump/stero reciever on his back. He has always had this very advanced device.

We speculate on all sorts of what it could be's, but we are speculating on something planted on the simian's back to delight of Rove, and it being put in the category of nuttiness by the corporate media and sheeple.

Viola...
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 01:03 PM
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33. Yes
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 01:25 PM
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35. People in England are talking about the bulge!
I just got an email from a friend in England and she wrote:

"Anyway, what was that under 'your President's' suit?
Has the mystery question been answered as yet? He is
so daft it does not surprise me if he was been
prompted. What a cheat."

At this point -- the news is the bulge -- and let the white house come up with yet another explanation.

Something is there and it isn't photo-shopped.

Translators at the white house believe that he is being his fed lines.

Someone even suggested that this is a drug pump -- so that his meds can be mainlined!

The more questions *ushita abilities and capacity to occupy the white house the better --
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:06 PM
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38. England gets it! Yes!!

It is astounding that the rest of the world has the smarts to understand when Puppet Boy and his String Pullers are telling LIES!

They don't wait for the "PROOF," they see him stuttering and looking stupid on TV. This is not brain science.

Our eyes are working folks!

Let's keep rolling!

This is great news!!

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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:20 PM
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50. She is originally from the Caribbean (dependent territory of UK)
bush is hated for what he did to Venezuela & Haiti.

If she is talking about this -- then talk of this is spreading throughout the Caribbean community living in England -- and among the population of England.

Plus -- the BBC has covered the "bulge". And BBC world is seen -- world wide.

So this is big . . . She didn't get this information from me -- but she does know that I am a liberal.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 05:21 PM
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37. Because it's evident that he needs help
Please look at this clip (address below). Bush is shown speaking in 1994 during his gubernatorial campaign and then shown speaking today. The symptoms of pre-senile dementia are tragically obvious, and are summarized in the clip. Why is the Republican party pushing this man as president? He's only going to get worse, and this in a world leader, representing the United states. The interesting thing is that, just as a person in the grip of senile dimentia has good days and bad days, Bush has good days and bad days. Although, in the debates, he didn't look to have ANY good days!

Again, the contrast in the speech of this man between ten years ago and today is shocking. This example of Bush's deterioration should be spread everywhere. Bush with all his buttons would be bad enough, but with a good percentage of them lost, it would be a disaster.

http://home.comcast.net/~blogitics/BushTenYrs4MB.mov

dragongoose

http://www.dragongoose.com
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:18 PM
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40. OH MY GOD! READ IMMEDIATELY EVERYONE!!!

Thank you jkshaw!!!!

A picture says a thousand words.
This video says a million words!!!!!!!!!!!

It must get to the right people immediately.

It is sad but true that when you see him a decade ago, it is light years apart from today.

Must, must see for everyone!

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:13 PM
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39. I just saw a clip on tweety of the moment he rushed Charlie GOPson
when he turns away, there's definitely something there on his back

It looked like a wire under his coat, but it was so quick I couldn't tell

I'm going to tape the rerun at 10PM CDT, and see what it looks like

does anybody have that clip now?

whatever it was, was VERY noticeable, cause I was only half paying attention, and definitely not looking for anything on his back at the time
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ejam Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:21 PM
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41. Puppet Boy?
I Dont think he's the puppet here.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:24 PM
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42. Hmm... who do you think IS the puppet then?
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ejam Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Research
Issues? You should be able to figure it out. This isnt that difficult.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. LOL... You are too funny.
Don't you have better things to do?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 06:28 PM
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43. There clearly is something on Bush's back that
isn't natural. And the white house never said what it was.
Something shitty is going on here.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 07:16 PM
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46. Totally agree lizzy

It is getting deeper and deeper by the second.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 08:21 PM
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48. Because He Is.
Some people have claimed that if * was wired he would be using spook gear that is nearly undetectable and therefore such a lump would not exist. I have a different take. See, I think they bought the equipment themselves to avoid any charge of legal impropriety. It's probably legal to wear a wire during a debate but it might not be so legal to spend taxpayers money to do so. If he gets busted with a wire he paid for, then no big deal, he's just being GW. But if a gov. agency provided the equipment and he got busted all hell would break loose. We're talking about charges against * and the agency that supplied the goods. I think he's wearing a wire and I think it's consumer level crap that you can buy off the shelf.

Jay
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:40 PM
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55. Also, the CLANDESTINE community
...has the LONG KNIVES out for that weecowboy asshole. Where do you suppose all the leaks are coming from? There are career intel types who are pissed as all hell at the way Tenet was given the bum's rush. There are plenty of people who would squeal like a pig simply to avenge a boss who, by all accounts, was very loyal to his subordinates.

Others realize that if he would throw Valerie Plame on his "wood pile" and light her up, that they could be next. If you work in that area and know that you could be a target to be killed or your life ruined on any given day, you sure as hell don't want your so-called fearless leader outing you for his political gain.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:55 PM
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65. If We Really Wanted To Turn This Around...
on them we should forget about the fact that he's wired and ask; Why isn't he wired? I mean, this is the age of terra. This isn't some nuisance. The President should have 2-way comms at all time with the levers of power. Especially when he is away from the White House They insist he doesn't wear a wire. Well, Why not?

Jay
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:03 AM
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68. Yea! It would keep him "safer"


I have never understood why they didn't say right away that there are some systems that Bush always wears. End of story.

That way we would know that Homeland Security was doing its job.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:42 AM
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71. They Were To Stupid To. -NT-
Jay
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:29 PM
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53. Kick.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 09:55 PM
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56. Remember the Larry King interview?
* would get so tongue-tied that Pickles would have to prompt him with the correct word. I remember thinking "no wonder he needed her to sit and hold his hand." When he would get into trouble, she often would jump in with her own interpretation, or sometimes even try to change the subject.


Regarding the "bulge" - most lavalor mics are clipped to the belt, not the middle of the back. But who knows? Maybe he is wearing a wire for his friend Linda Tripp.

Regarding earpieces - some newer earpieces are so small you can't even notice them in the ear. I saw some ad for senior hearing loss that showed an earpiece that was very tiny, and only had a small antennae protruding from it. (yeah, please, no alien jokes!)

I'm sure * has access to all state-of-the-art technology. We just need to find more signal-jammers!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:51 PM
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63. Yes! I forgot about that one.
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 10:57 PM by goclark
Pickles was trying to cue him in like Nancy did Ronnie.

Huuum

I also recall a few pictures around here where Pickles is watching Bush and you can tell she is scared to death.
She has no idea what the hell he is going to say.

That must be so scary for both of them.

I think he is totally out of control.

For the safety of this country,just judging from that last debate,he needs to resign. Makes me think of poor Dean and his innocent scream. Remember how they wore him out for being so "crazy." Only to find out that someone in the Media had rigged the microphone system.

Please help me have some compassion for someone who has killed more than 1000 people.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:01 PM
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57. Becasue he is Hitler
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:36 AM
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74. Disney version of Hitler
Animatronic in the Pirates of the Enron Caribbean
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:05 PM
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58. What I find really humorous and ironic about this
(and, yes, I believe * was wired) is that all of us will be positivley glued to our "Tee-Vee screen" when Junior is on during the debate. I don't like him, but I'm probably not going to be able to take my eyes off of him! That's quite a turnaround for me. The millions of people who have heard or read the stories in the MSM will also be watching. If he twitches at the wrong time or pauses at the wrong place in a sentence, people will be talking about it. If Senator Kerry can get him to flip out again, he may even make another "Let me finish!" gaffe.

I really hope someone in that room jams his signal. Not all the time, just when * is asked a question. :evilgrin: Harder to triangulate on the jamming device that way, too. Or so all of those James Bond-like movies have 'informed' me over the years. ;) No one should interfere with the signals used by the Secret Service, though! That wouldn't be right. Besides, no reason to upset them when they probably won't vote for the Volcanic One, anyway.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:15 PM
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60. Puppet Boy may have been wired the second time, not the first
He sounded like a fool the first time.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #60
70. he always sounds like a fool. thats no proof.
i think he was too distracted or maybe the drugs were having adverse effects.

it has to take a certain amount of concentration and ability to multitask to pull this off and he doesnt have it sometimes.

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:00 PM
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78. I'd think that even woody could do it when somebody is just reading to him
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 10:00 PM by Hippo_Tron
Especially in the first debate where the enviornment was a little more controlled than the second one.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:19 PM
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61. Because
he's a tool
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:38 PM
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62. I recognize the equipment from having used it and can explain.....
.....in technical detail everything that has been mentioned above. :evilgrin:

I am almost 100% certain that he uses an RF IFB system used in stage and broadcast work for live events. The system consists of a small transmitter (A) that sends a low power digital signal (similar to some portable phones) to a small receiver (B) that can drive either a wired earpieces (C) or an 'inductive neck loop transducer' (D) for wireless earpieces.(E)


(A)

Transmitter

(B)

Receiver

(C)

Wired Earpieces

(D)

Inductive Neck Loop Transducer

(E)

Inductive Earpieces

The occasions where the voice feeding him the questions was heard can be explained by the use of an inductive loop pickup getting too close to a dynamic microphone element and coupling the signal to it. Bush* has an annoying tendency to slouch forward on podiums thus allowing the signal from the inductive loop to couple with the coils in the microphones.

The receiver is often placed between the shoulder blades for stage work to hide it.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:54 PM
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64. Thanks for that information! Very interesting
Any anecdotes about times when the equipment acted up or failed outright? Did it ever jam? Not that I would ever wish for such a thing to happen in this next debate. No, no, not me. Uh-uh. :evilgrin:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:56 PM
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66. Young Frankenstein: "What hump?"
I'm not sure what to believe, but the thing that makes it most credible to me is the RNC's statement that there WAS no rectangular shape, or hump, or lump -- just a wrinkle.

If they'd offered any explanation or said nothing, it'd be easier to discount the possibility.

It reminds me of the hunchback, Igor, in Young Frankenstein. The hump in one scene is suddenly on the other side of his back. When asked why it's on the other side, Igor says, "What?" ... "Your hump."..... "What hump?"
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:09 PM
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67. Scotland has the story too!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:40 AM
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69. remember the russert interview?
and countless other events when he stops and gives a vacant look and then he has the answer?

how about this.....

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2004/041404bushscripted.htm


he comes right out and says it.MAYBE SOMETHING WILL POP INTO MY HEAD

maybe it will, at that. to me he is waiting for his coach but it blows out.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. You win a BINGO!


Yes! That was one of his unwired moments.
Moments when he was absolutely in meltdown.

I am starting to believe that he is more "unwired" than wired.

His mind is completely fried and this clip is a perfect example of him being clueless for a real important time.
Notice how afraid he is, biting his lips, blinking.

If he was wired then, and I saw that meltdown on TV, he did not get the signal in time. To me it seemed that he was not getting the one/two word clue in time. When he got it, he was able to speed up his speech.

If he wasn't wired, and that could have been the case, he was showing us that he IS NOT FIT to be Commander in Chief. He can not even think on his feet, how can he possibly protect us?!

As someone said earlier at DU, the best video of his ability to lead remains 911 and the Pet Goat.

I was thinking about that later. He could not have had an ear piece then because they had to come in to the room and TELL him in person.
And when they gave him his cue,in his ear, in full view of the American people, we saw the REAL and RAW and scared GW.

There is something wrong with him folks. It doesn't take a tin hat to see it. He is a broken man, in total meltdown right before our eyes.

He may or may not be wired. He is "UNWIRED" and in meltdown and his team knows it. That is a crime.
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:20 AM
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72. This story IS important
I've been a political junkie for years and I don't remember ever watching a politician before and saying "what's that thing?".

I saw the object while watching it live. It was obvious. The story starting crawling out in the early morning hours following the debate and grew from there. Remember the rules that the networks were supposed to follow. No reaction shots and so on. Did they know they would show shots from behind?

Whatever it is, wire or otherwise, they are denying it. That alone is reason to pay strict attention. Something is seriously wrong with * and they are holding on by the skin of their balls to keep us from naming "it" before Nov. 2nd. We are all aware he is a miserable failure. But, I'm talking beyond that. Like a meltdown, working with one brain cell left meltdown.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:50 AM
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75. He is in Meltdown Either Way

Kerry needs to be as cool as a cucumber in the next debate.

He needs to continue to look Presidential.

He needs advise from physicians that treat patients in meltdown because that is what he is dealing with on Wednesday night.

On Wednesday Bush could be UP or Down or WAY Down or Way Way Down.
He could be wired.

But for sure his brain is UNWIRED, we have documented proof in this thread and many others that his elevator does not go up to the 3rd floor.

I pray for Kerry and this nation.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:01 PM
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76. Barbara Walters apparently thinks there is a good chance of it
or she wouldn't have shown the audience of "The View" just how her own wireless system fits the description of Junior's suspected system. She even went so far as to show how it works and how it is attached. Wireless earpiece. The works.

:toast:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:14 PM
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77. Barbara deserves a BINGO!


I was happy to see her comment on.

Every time it is mentioned, more people will watch him VERY closely.

That is important. Before, we were seeing him for his wacked out ways, others did not.

He will be under the microscope tomorrow night.

If he is still standing at the end of the debate, the media whores will still declare him the winner!

But, the American people can still be the judge of that one. They will have the last word,not the media.
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no safe haven Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 11:32 PM
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79. Does anyone remember....
when * completely lost it, threw a hissy fit and ripped out his earpiece during a presser in France? He then went on to insult half of Europe, IIRC. I don't think it was the same time as the "double talk" event on D-Day anniversary.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:32 AM
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82. BINGO no safe Haven!

Thanks for reminding me what year was that?
Does anyone have a link?
We are trying to develop a timeline from 1994 - 2004 of declining behavior for GW.

See bombshell video below...


http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

or

http://www.blogitics.com


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no safe haven Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:13 AM
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84. I'm pretty sure it was at the G8 summit
in Evian, his press conference on 2 June 2003. Sorry I don't have a .mov/.wav file link for you. I've googled my ass off trying though. I think he got an unscripted Q from an American reporter and just lost the plot. The man's a complete nutter.
Good luck with your timeline, goclark.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:29 AM
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85. Thanks nosafehaven!


Maybe I'll post my Time Line today.

Everybody will need to help me by posting/reposting items that show how he has melted down over the years.

As of now, I think it started before the 2000 debates.
Since my focus in 2000 was Gore, I really wasn't looking at Bush for any disabilities. I just disliked his politics.

Now, IMO, we have proof positive that he has serious medical conditions that put our country at great risk.

Thank you for motivating me to get on this right now!
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:01 AM
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80. Check out this piece from 1999 - the rumors about Chimpy wearing an
earpiece have been around for a LOOONNNNGGGG time:

http://www.americanpolitics.com/111999DISpatch.html

"About the only thing that Bush accomplished with this "momentous" speech was to provide his GOP opponents with plenty of ammunition when they actually face Dubya in a debate -- that is, if Bush ever shows up at one without the "earpiece" he is rumored to need to make sure he stays "on message."

The man fools nobody. You just have to ask yourself if this is the best the GOP can do for a presidential candidate."


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 AM
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81. Bingo Kath!

This is exactly what we are looking for.

It is yet another puzzle piece to this bombshell video.

Your clip helps us to develop a time line for the 10 Year Meltdown of George W Bush.

Must Viewing....


http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

or

http://www.blogitics.com


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