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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:13 PM
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LTTE/Oregonian Newspaper: Kerry 1,140 ... Bush 74!
This says a lot!

From The Oregonian (major paper of Portland & state)
Sunday, Oct. 10

"Hot topic: the Presidential election, with 1,267 letters. The total number of letters received -- 2,060 -- broke our all-time record high of 1,419 letters (received the week after the terrorist attacks of 9/11).

Of the 1,267 letters on the presidential campaign, 1,140 supported the Kerry/Edwards ticket, while 74 favored President Bush and 53 letters took neither side."
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:14 PM
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1. 4 digits to 2 digits?
That is a fucking drubbing. They probably printed half and half.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:16 PM
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2. at least they published the stats
and endorsed Kerry after endorsing Bush in 2000.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:17 PM
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3. I think the public editor said they printed 5-1

but now that the paper has endorsed Kerry, they're going
to print more Bush letters.

:puke:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:20 PM
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7. Well write another letter
As soon as I find the actual article so I can quote it, I'm going to point out that this is the very editorial thinking that causes people to believe the country is "evenly divided". It obviously isn't, but trying to print LTTE's equally creates an idea that doesn't exist. It's a disservice to their readers.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:32 PM
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9. Here's the quote I was talking about.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/public_editor/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1097323439152041.xml

But it will affect letters to the editors and guest opinions chosen for publication. Letters supporting Kerry have been outnumbering those backing Bush by a ratio of more than 5-to-1. But Caldwell says the newspaper will give more weight to publishing opinions in favor of Bush, to counter the editorial endorsement.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:43 PM
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12. Thank you
I looked for that a little bit ago but couldn't find it. Off to write them a letter now.

How stupid is this:

"In a swing state, he says, the newspaper's editorial writers should be more reflective of the divided community."

Letters are coming in 5 to 1 for Kerry, the editorial writers are all leaning Kerry, is it possible the community isn't evenly divided at all? That the polls are more reflective of WHERE they chose to poll rather than the true views of the people across the state?

Now they're going to try to balance the letters to reflect an evenly divided community, which is only going to perpetuate the notion of an evenly divided community, when it may not even be true.

Aaaargh!

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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:49 PM
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13. These guys are so intimidated by the bogus "liberal media"
charge that they bend over backwards to
be "fair" to the wingnuts.

I did catch this guy one time assert that the
media was liberal. He had written a column about
readers accusing the paper of bias, and he let the
charge slip with no attribution or qualification.

I was surprised when he apologized for the error.

I almost don't hate Lars Larson for calling it the
"daily fish wrap."

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:52 PM
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14. That's just stupid.
They should print them in the same ratio they receive them in. Anything else is artificial bias.

-Grant

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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:26 PM
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8. I read that here at DU too. Only the numbers show a 15-1 advantage
Edited on Mon Oct-11-04 03:26 PM by FoeOfBush
to Kerry, NOT 5-1!

And who the hell writes an editorial that doesn't take a side? Apparently at least 53 readers of this paper!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:18 PM
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4. Holy Cow!
The Oregon Media Trackers have apparently done a bang-up job! Wohoo. I was looking for this after getting an email, I can't find it online. Anybody got a link?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:19 PM
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5. I think the Oregonian talked about it today
on their opinion page. You could check oregonlive.com
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:20 PM
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6. less than 6% - Hooooo Raaaaay
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:35 PM
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10. Kerry voters more energized
should translate into good turnout numbers.

Bush supporters will be even more demoralized after debate #3.



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samtob Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:35 PM
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11. It is the same here, but
the number of letters against the repubs never reflect the vote unfortunately.

This state is ultra conservative, I would venture to guess 80% rep, 17% dem, 3% other.

You would not know that reading the editorials, I think it goes back to the "silent majority" rule.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:52 PM
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15. Oh please
No state is 80% Republican and if you think yours is you need to get out more. It's that kind of misperception that discourages Dem voters who would vote if they thought they could win. In EVERY state in the union, if Dems vote, Dems win. There's always more of us than them. GOTV.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 03:58 PM
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16. No state is 80 percent republican. The closest is Utah @ 51R/21D I believe
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