The latest in freeper desperation

[rumguy]

Supposedly this video has Kerry 'fleeing' in a cowardly manner on 9/11. There is also another website that is pushing this story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1535000/video/_1537652_washington_watson05_vi.ram

Here's the freeper thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1241915/posts .

Not all freepers think the video shows anything - "Nonsense thread - about a Senator walking down the steps of Congress.
38 posted on 10/11/2004 1:50:12 PM PDT by dagnabbit"

[Katherine2]

1. I'm dying

They keep talking about how he pushed people aside to get down the stairs, and how he wasn't helping the elderly and others who needed help getting down the stairs. They're obviously delusional.

[teach1st]

2. My what a coward

He was asked (required) to evacuate and the yellow pinko liberal actually walked down the steps. No way we can vote for him. He should have fought the police who asked that he evacuate. Bush would have.

Thank Gawd for George Bush who sat serenely for seven minutes reading to little school children when, as Commander-In-Chief he was told that our nation was under attack.

[greenbriar]

11. don't forget

flying around the usa stopping here and there...and everywhere

[IowaGuy]

28. Don't forget also, it was Cheney...

who ordered the Air Force to splash planes if necessary....that order should have come from the "Commander in Chief" (maybe it did)
Bush - awol again....

[are_we_united_yet]

30. He could have avoided all this controversy.

Warning: about to rant at the freepers

/rant_on

He could have done this by being a "REAL" courageous person and altogether shirking or otherwise blowing off his military responsibilities. Or by getting his rich family to shield him from being shot at in some low intensity conflict position of which he subsequently doesnt show up to, then no one could question him taking cover from being shot at. NOW THAT is the true measure of a courageous individual wouldn't you say?

Question to any of the lurking, trolling freepers on DU:

If someone shoots at you do you:

1)stay and let the bullets hit you so you can prove what a courageous United Proud 'Murican you are?

2)take cover before you get ass shot off to come back and fight in a strengthened more advantageous military position?

If the answer is #1 (DUMBASS), then can I sign you up for a short stint in Fallujah?

/rant_off

In short I find these numb nut RW freeper's as brain damaged as you probably do.

On edit:

BTW At first I thought this was about Vietnam so I rambled and wandered from the main topic but I feel better.
:)

[Zookeeper]

33. I'm sorry, Teach1st, but I must correct you...

If you watch the classroom video, you'll see that Chimpy didn't actually even read to the children. He just sat with his deer-in-the-headlights stupor. That's when I knew we were really in trouble, since it obviously didn't occur to him that he should find out what was going on and DO something!

[MADem]

37. AND he had the Secretary of EDUCATION

..IN THE GODDAMN ROOM WITH HIM!!! You stand up, introduce Rod, and hand the book to him, then you go do real work, like say, defendin' Amurca. Hell, the substantial minority population of that school probably would have identified with the SECED more than that rapidly blinking fuzzy white cracker, anyway.

[undercover_brother]

3. Capitol Police evacuated the building

The Capitol Police evacuated the building. Was John Kerry supposed to make a scene and refuse the order to clear the building? This is nonsense.

[Downtown Hound]

4. There is one thing I admire about the freepers

And that is that they constantly amaze me with how stupid they are. The video of Kerry is what, maybe two or three seconds long, and it shows him walking down the steps of the Capitol. This is a new low in stupidity, even for them.

[snippy]

14. It is more dishonesty than stupidity, although many of them are

remarkably stupid.

[Pirate Smile]

5. Fools. Here is the NYT Mag article. Kerry looks good, not bad

"As New York and Washington were under attack on Sept. 11, 2001, a film crew happened to come upon John Kerry leaving the Capitol. The brief moment of footage, included in a BBC documentary called ''Clear the Skies,'' tells us something, perhaps, about Kerry in a crisis. The camera captures Congressional aides and visitors, clearly distraught and holding onto one another, streaming down the back steps of the Capitol building in near panic, following the bellowed instructions of anxious police. Off to one side of the screen, there is Kerry, alone, his long legs carrying him calmly down the steps, his neck craning toward the sky, as if he were watching a gathering rainstorm. His face and demeanor appear unworried. Kerry could be a man lost in his thoughts who just happens to have wandered onto the set of a disaster film.

''I remember looking up at the sky as I walked down the steps,'' Kerry told me recently, when I asked him about the film clip. He said that he and other members of the Senate's Democratic leadership had just watched on television as the second plane hit the World Trade Center, and shortly after that they heard the sonic boom of an explosion and saw, through a large window, the black smoke rise from the Pentagon. ''We'd had some warning that there was some airplane in the sky. And I remember seeing a great big plane -- I think it was a 747 or something -- up there, but it wasn't moving in a way that, you know, I was particularly concerned. I remember feeling a rage, a huge anger, and I remember turning to somebody and saying, 'This is war.' I said, 'This is an act of war.'''

After leaving the Capitol on that terrible day, Kerry walked across the street to his office in the Russell Senate building, where he made sure that his staff had been evacuated and was safe. Reluctant to leave Capitol Hill, he watched TV coverage in his office and saw the second tower fall. He called his older daughter, Alexandra, who was living in New York, and his wife, Teresa, who was in Washington. Those who saw Kerry that morning recall mainly that he was furious, an emotion, those close to him say, that comes easily to him in times of trial. He thought it was a mistake to shut down the Capitol, to show terrorists that they had the power to send the United States government into hiding.

''You know, my instinct was, Where's my gun?'' Kerry told me. ''How do you fight back? I wanted to do something.'' That evening, sitting at home, he called an aide and said he wanted to go to New York that very night to help the rescuers; he was ultimately convinced that such a trip was logistically impossible. In the days ahead, Kerry would make two trips to ground zero to see what remained of the carnage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html?oref=login

[rumguy]

6. and that is EXACTLY what it shows

the guy is calm - and lookin' up and towards any potential danger - very much unlike the chimp who fled like the garbage-coward he is...

[LittleClarkie]

7. And I was afraid the other side would spin "unworried"

as uncaring. But this is just absurd. He was leaving with the rest.

[AnIndependentTexan]

8. there is also a part i nthe article that says Kerry thought it was wrong

to shut congress down. He wanted to stay there and prove to the terrorist that he wasn't afraid of them!

[Pirate Smile]

10. That comment is included in the four paragraphs. I would recommend

everybody read the article. It is where the "nuisance" comment comes from and it is 11 pages long.

[0007]

24. I also found this extremely interesting!

Through his immersion in the global underground, Kerry made connections among disparate criminal and terrorist groups that few other senators interested in foreign policy were making in the 90's. Richard A. Clarke, who coordinated security and counterterrorism policy for George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, credits Kerry with having seen beyond the national-security tableau on which most of his colleagues were focused. ''He was getting it at the same time that people like Tony Lake were getting it, in the '93 -'94 time frame,'' Clarke says, referring to Anthony Lake, Clinton's national security adviser. ''And the 'it' here was that there was a new nonstate-actor threat, and that nonstate-actor threat was a blended threat that didn't fit neatly into the box of organized criminal, or neatly into the box of terrorism. What you found were groups that were all of the above.''

Great article. Very long!

[Pirate Smile]

26. It is a great article and gives a lot more depth to what Kerry wants to do

in fighting AQ.

The fact that B/C took a couple words out of context and are trying to use it against him is their usual disgusting tricks.

Are they really as stupid and obtuse as they pretend to be or just completely duplicitous?

[meganmonkey]

31. This is an excellent article

I'm only about halfway through...Thanks for the link

[karlrschneider]

34. That's a long article but it's well written and worth the time to read.

:kick:

[funky_bug]

9. Oh you have GOT to be kidding me???

The first group were fleeing (and can you blame them?) Kerry, on the other hand, was calmly but briskly exiting the Capitol on orders of EVACUATION!!! This is too fucking funny. I hope they push and push... it will certainly make them look foolish.

By the way, you know why there are no videos of Cheney fleeing? Because he was in a non-disclosed location.

[Dees]

12. Goddamn Freeper clowns...there isn't half

a brain at that entire web site...you know the one freerepublic.com on the internets.

MonkeyNuts for brains sits in frozen panic for seven minutes while our country is being attacked. He then spends the rest of the day hiding in a secure concrete bunker in Nebraska. God damn his cowardly ass to hell.

And by the way for any trolling Freeps...just how many of you have ever been in a firefight?

[Renew Deal]

13. Kerry walks while others run. And Bush goes in a hole in Nebraska.

Whatever. BTW, the "spontaneous" act of patriotism wasn't so spontaneous. I had heard about the intention to sing before it happened.

[July]

15. Wasn't Edwards equally calm?

I remember a DUer's post about Edwards's refusal to "bunker down" because he wanted to be with his family. Anyone have the full story?

[NMDemDist2]

23. when the capitol police came to take him to a "safe location" he

couldn't bring Elizabeth or the kids, so he stayed home with his family in spite of strong urging by the troopers

[high density]

16. HuH?

It looks like Kerry is walking down the steps in a rather nonchalant manner. I'd hardly call that fleeing, no matter what the BBC News voice over says.

[troublemaker]

20. It appears speeded up, BTW

[indie_voter]

22. He is walking while everyone else is running, he looks in control. n/t

[onenote]

17. notice how much bush has aged

more than you would expect in three years...makes me wonder about his health...

onenote

[bacchant]

25. He holds a terrible secret

The truth of his involvement in 911 is slowly eating him alive.

[Pirate Smile]

18. Here is a link to plastic turkeys post of Kerry walking down the stairs

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2478102

[Bluebear]

21. Really looks panicky and fleeing doesn't he?

UNbelievable

[Pirate Smile]

27. What idiots they are over there. I mean, they just lie to such an amazing

degree. There are enough honest differences to discuss but instead they resort to made up crap.

I see you changed to Superman for your avatar. It is a nice homage.

[George_S]

19. I don't want the give...

the freepers the traffic.

[renegade000]

29. lol

kerry is quite calm and collected.

[gasperc]

32. what a waste of my time, Kerry walked down some steps

fucking freepers wasting out time with this stupid shit

[Spike from MN]

35. I haven't checked out the links yet

but the quote from the NYT mag article that says he checked on his staff to make sure they were safe speaks volumes.

[Roland99]

36. Because the reporter used the word "fleeing"?

BTW, notice how well Bush spoke in the early part of that clip compared to his utterances now?