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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:42 AM
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Did anyone see the bombing film on CNN??
Taken from a plane, ready to drop a 500 lb bomb and the conversation in the plan centers around civilians walking. One guy says "Should we get them too?" They discuss it, then another soldier says "Yeah, get them too" They drop the bomb and blow up all these people. They were ALL civilians, women, children and men just walking along.

TRULY sickening!! Watch CNN, they'll play it again.

How can ANYONE support this bullshit?
:kick:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:48 AM
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1. CNN RAN IT? -is that the video that's been floating around...
the guy says something snappy at the end. What was the spin on TV?

I can't believe they ran it.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:05 AM
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4. is this film on the web somewhere?
I didnt realize it was.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:52 AM
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2. I saw it last night.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 09:54 AM by in_cog_ni_to
I couldn't believe my eyes. :cry:

The ONLY reason the tape made it on OUR airwaves is because the UK aired it and the Pentagon wanted to get "their story" out. Aaron Brown said that the media (?)or the Pentagon had the video since June (?), I think. They had NO intentions of putting that on the air, but had to when the UK press did. It sounds exactly like what they did with the Abu Ghraib tapes. They held them, had not intended to air them, but had to come clean when CBS got their hands on them.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:59 AM
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3. This will sound naive..
But how can ANY rational thinking person view this and think it's just dandy? Something like this should turn the entire country against the entire war and smirk. But it wont. Oh it WOULD if Bill Clinton were in power...:mad:
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:43 AM
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17. No rational person could.
But unfortunatly the people who support Bush and the people who support this war have the same mindset as these soldiers.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:45 AM
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18. I think you answered your own question
Rational thinkng people don't think this is just dandy.
Unfortunately, the country isn't completely made up of rational thinking people.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:07 AM
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5. That is murder. They should be tried. So should their commanding officer
and their commander in chief.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:07 AM
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6. saw it, a while ago. Saw it again this morning on HLN...
I just don't think the American people are effected by this unfortunately. They think this is a video game, and those people are just targets. Especially in red states, Cooter, and Bubba, and billy bob and the like love seeing this shit, so they probably masturbate to it.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:09 AM
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7. they played it about FOUR times during the segment I saw
(Aaron Brown?)

one of the voices said something like "whoa dude!" after the blast.

it was said that IF these were insurgents, why were they walking in a large group, making such an easy target?

in other news, they bombed one of the most popular RETAURANTS in Iraq last night...

Weapons of Mass Indigestion?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:11 AM
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8. So, someone please remind me - what is so SUPERIOR about our
country?

How many more things are to come out about our evil, evil philosophy of humanity against other people on this earth.

We are going to pay for this.

We have to take back our country.
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choicevoice Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:13 AM
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9. I watched in horror
When the voice came on and said "Take em out" all I could do was stare at the screen as a group of what looked to be 20 or so people were disintegrated. There was some discussion afterward as to whether the person giving the order to "Take em out" was in a position to know if these individuals were insurgents. One man questioned if insurgents would be running down the middle of a street instead of moving more undercover.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:16 AM
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10. As horrible as this film is, it should be shown over and over..
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:24 AM
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11. Apparently it's been floating around the internet for a few months
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 10:25 AM by lolamio
It was truly disturbing, and I don't know how anyone could view it and not walk away from it thinking that those were anything but civilians. Aaron Brown looked pretty shaken by it. I can tell you this much: it won't be showing up on FAUX News anytime soon. :eyes:
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:25 AM
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12. Is there a link for this?
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:27 AM
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14. I haven't looked for a link
I only viewed it on CNN last night, but Aaron Brown mentioned that it had been floating around the net.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:25 AM
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13. Does anyone remember "Falcon Air"?
Before the invasion of Iraq, "Falcon Air" was a DUer whose husband was active duty Air Force, and I think she herself was at the time or had been in the past also active duty AF.

She insisted most vociferously /sic/ that American military personnel NEVER EVER EVER did anything like this and NEVER EVER EVER would.

A few of us disagreed. Vociferously.


I think the operative phrase at this point is, "We told you so," but without any sense of satisfaction.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:30 AM
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15.  CNN transcript shows just how easily our media is cowed by Pentagon.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/11/asb.01.html

Portion of transcript below. Link to entire exchange above.

BROWN: Now, we, this tape actually has been out there for some weeks. It's been seen in large parts of the world. We've had our hands on it for a while. Talk for a moment about the process, I guess, that we went through to vet it and to make the decision to go to air.

MCINTYRE: Well, we, as you said, we got this tape some time ago. It has appeared to raise some questions about who was on the tape and how the pilot would have known who he was striking.

We got some initial indication that it was possibly a legitimate strike back in April, but we didn't have the full details on what had happened. It wasn't until British television aired the tape and suggested that this was a massacre of civilians that the U.S. military came forward with additional documentation and details to give their side of the story, that they believe that this was, as a result of action that took place after a fire strike.

So, after a considerable number of days of checking and rechecking, we're pretty confident that we've gotten the best information we can. But even then, these kinds of incidents are always inconclusive. It's always a chance that somebody made a mistake, that there were innocent civilians mixed in among the legitimate targets, or that somebody's even covering up something.

But at this point, all the evidence suggests that it was, in fact, as the U.S. describes it, a legitimate military strike. And in the absence of evidence to the contrary, we really can't draw any other conclusion.

BROWN: I agree with that. It, can you just in 15 seconds, do you have any idea how this tape got out?

MCINTYRE: Most likely scenario, a pilot saved it because it was, quote, "cool video," gave it to somebody, gave it to somebody, showed up on the Internet. That's sort of how it gets out.

BROWN: Unreal, the times in which we live. Thank you, Jamie. Jamie McIntyre at the Pentagon tonight.

__________________

CNN, how about suggesting that this horrific incident, a possible war crime, be investigated by someone other than the Pentagon, to get at the truth?
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:36 AM
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16. Link please?
I gotta see this!
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:51 AM
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19. Here's a link to the video.
www.prisonplanet.com/video/CAS.wmv
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