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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:38 PM
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MUST READ: Secrets of the Iraq Quagmire and the War on Terror
The Iraq war is not winnable, a secret U.S. military unit has been "disappearing" people since December 2001, and America has no idea how irreparably its torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison has damaged its image in the Middle East. These were just a few of the grim pronouncements made by Pulitzer Prize–winning investigative reporter Seymour "Sy" Hersh to KQED host Michael Krasny before a Berkeley audience on Friday night (Oct. 8).

There was more — rumors of atrocities around Iraq that to Hersh brought back memories of My Lai. In the evening's most emotional moment, Hersh talked about a call he had gotten from a first lieutenant in charge of a unit stationed halfway between Baghdad and the Syrian border. His group was bivouacking outside of town in an agricultural area, and had hired 30 or so Iraqis to guard a local granary. A few weeks passed. They got to know the men they hired, and to like them. Then orders came down from Baghdad that the village would be "cleared." Another platoon from the soldier's company came and executed the Iraqi granary guards. All of them.

"He said they just shot them one by one. And his people, and he, and the villagers of course, went nuts," Hersh said quietly. "He was hysterical, totally hysterical. He went to the company captain, who said, 'No, you don't understand, that's a kill. We got 36 insurgents. Don't you read those stories when the Americans say we had a combat maneuver and 15 insurgents were killed?'

"It's shades of Vietnam again, folks: body counts," Hersh continued. "You know what I told him? I said, 'Fella, you blamed the captain, he knows that you think he committed murder, your troops know that their fellow soldiers committed murder. Shut up. Complete your tour. Just shut up! You're going to get a bullet in the back.' And that's where we are in this war."

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1012-09.htm

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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 12:46 PM
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1. Very creepy!
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:00 PM
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2. Very interesting and disturbing
stuff. I read in the paper Saturday, in the back pages, of course, that the military was stepping down their attacks on the various cities until after the election because it would be "too political" to be really attacking right now. So, if Bush loses, they won't care and if he wins they will blast Iraq to kingdom come.
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MalibuWaker Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:24 PM
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6. What paper
Sticks that all the way in the back?
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:27 PM
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7. It was in The Commercial Appeal
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 05:44 PM
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8. Hi MalibuWaker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:44 PM
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3. sickening. Exactly like Vietnam
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 01:49 PM
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4. All is fair...including a frag or two. When shutting up...makes sense.
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:16 PM
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5. God please no
we're so fucked already. What a fucking mess we're going to be decades repairing this.

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