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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:23 PM
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Sen. Dayton closing office until after election? What does he know?
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 07:00 PM by Generic Other
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Democratic senator said he will close his Capitol Hill office until after the November 2 election, fearing a possible terrorist attack that could harm his staff or visitors.

Sen. Mark Dayton of Minnesota issued a statement Tuesday, citing a "top-secret intelligence report on our national security" provided to congressional members by Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee.

"Based upon that information," Dayton wrote, "I have decided to close my office in the Russell Senate Office Building until after the upcoming election.

"I do so out of extreme, but necessary, precaution to protect the lives and safety of my Senate staff and my Minnesota constituents, who might otherwise visit my office in the next few weeks. I feel compelled to do so, because I will not be here in Washington to share in what I consider to be an unacceptably greater risk to their safety."

Dayton said he could not give details of the intelligence report that Frist presented to senators two weeks ago. Dayton said he's asked Frist three times to convene a meeting of all senators to discuss the situation, but Frist has not agreed.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/senator.terror/index.html
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:25 PM
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1. terraists going to hit us before the lections
cuz they hates our freedoms on the internets



:puke:
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:29 PM
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2. It could be two separate things...
A case where these goons (Bush & his cohorts) put out specific info to keep people in line - but there isn't anything really to it. OR, something is bad but Bush can't afford for it to look as if he isn't keeping the country safe.

Either way these guys are not to be trusted about anything. Dayton needs to get this out to all his constituents if he feels there is something that we the people need to know. We know the media wont do anything...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:31 PM
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3. Dayton is a good guy
He's a prime target for, um, "domestic terrorists" - if from nobody else...
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:31 PM
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4. Senator Dayton is taking this action because
it is the only way to get the media to pay attention to this issue. Unfortunately, only this type of extreme action will get anyone to take notice.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:36 PM
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5. He got my attention!
Someone on DU needs to put up a safety chart. Tie the colors to one's proximity to centers of power. I mean who's the target here? The Congress? The Executive?

Are they getting ready to man the bunkers?

Should I be "sounding the alarm to every middlesex village and farm"?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:49 PM
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32. That type of action plays to the Repubs, though, and helps *.
It plays up a terrorist threat.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:43 PM
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6. Very interesting
My first reaction was that it's about time that people act like there's a threat when they're told there's a threat. I couldn't believe a few months ago that that there was a supposed threat on the financial buildings in NYC and NJ, yet they were encouraging people to go to work. Obviously the threat was bunk given how old the intelligence was etc, but honestly! The credibility issues are so appalling. I really hoped all those people would play dumb and refuse to go to work. That they would act as though a terrorist alert meant something and screw stuff up a bit.

But in this situation, I had to give it another thought. He could be trying to force the issue, make it known that the 'threats' are bunk by reacting the way a sane person would to a real terrorist threat. But the threat alert wasn't public, which does make one wonder if it could be real. But why are no other Senators reacting?

This is a puzzle to me.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:48 PM
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7. Normie says he read the same briefing and is not closing his office,
however, Dayton makes it sound as if he is a target, so why would Normie have a worry? Why, huh, Normie - let's hear more from you.

We can figure this all out if you all talk a little more about why you are not closing down.

No need to worry, Normie? Is that because you know the source of the threat? Or are you implying Dayton is exaggerating?

Cmon, citizens want to know.
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whodiedandmadeUSgod Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:50 PM
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10. Norman (as I like to call him)
was hand picked by dubya remember! Of course he doesn't have to worry!
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whodiedandmadeUSgod Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:48 PM
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8. My conspiracy theory
Bush is waiting to release this newest terror threat until closer to the election to inflict fear on Americans. Dayton is preempting this by closing his office. When * releases this threat 2 days before the election it will be an obvious scare tactic!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:49 PM
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9. ALL the Democratic Senators and Congresscritters should go home NOW!
First thing Wednesday morning, before the debate, and Kerry should make a big deal of it during the debate. Chimpy wants to say we're "safer", well, how come Sen. Frist is trying to keep this intelligence report SECRET FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS who will have to sustain our government in the event of an attack??

If there is going to be an attack, I want all the Dem elected officials ALIVE...let the repukes stay in their seats, if they so choose, just to make the pResident look "credible" on Homeland Security issues.

THIS ONE THING can turn the election:

The fact that there's YET ANOTHER threat of terrorism that is SPECIFIC ENOUGH that a Dem Senator is heading out with his staff...AND that the republicans are NOT WARNING THE PEOPLE, NOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, in order to keep them safe.

9/11 policies all over again.

This needs to be spread far & wide, and Kerry needs to jump on this like a chicken on a June Bug.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:52 PM
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11. It s Minnesota
How many times, combined, have Bush and Cheney been to Minnesota in the last couple of months? They're there every time I turn around. They have positioned the empty suit (Coleman) and they've been pouring money into the state. I think it's their next Florida.

The empty suit can look like a hero by not closing his office ("not gonna give in to them terrists") because he knows the threat is political.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:12 PM
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13. You sound like you've been through the con before
I just find it disconcerting to come home from work and discover the lawmakers fleeing the capital. Must make anyone living in and around the vicinity feel a mite uneasy.

Where's Dolly Madison? Who has the WH silver?

Where's the closest nuke/chem/hazmat site? What direction is the wind? How many VIP's are still in town?

Who is or isn't in his hidey hole? Who's flying on commercial jets? Who isn't?

The GOP needs to cut the crap.

"Don't need a barometer to know which way the wind blows..." Just watch the actions of the scarecrows.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:39 PM
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21. I hope it doesn't come to that...
We have our own Katherine Harris named Kiffmeyer, a former Democrat flip flop senator named Norm, and a St Paul democrat (by name) mayor supporting Bush. Looks bad from the outside but there are A LOT of pissed off people here. I think it will all come down to turnout.
I feel 99.9% sure MN will be very BLUE come November 3rd.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:48 PM
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24. I hope you're right
I used to live in Minnesota, during the glory days of Clean Gene, and I would hate to see it strongarmed into a red state...
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:14 PM
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26. Amen to That!
My favorite tee shirt at the Edwards rally on Sunday:

Swing State My :dem: !
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:02 PM
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12. If the congress critters are all in recess anyway, why would Frist be
willing to keep this such a secret - putting staff and vistors in possible danger while the critters themselves are out?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:15 PM
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15. LIHOP or MIHOP?
:tinfoilhat:
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omnithrope Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:15 PM
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14. hrm
shades of wtc attack...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:18 PM
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17. Whoa.
my heart just dropped at that sentence. well, sentence fragment.
i don't even want to think that...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:16 PM
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16. you mean they only share the false terror alerts, but refuse
to share a terrorist alert that has validity
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:20 PM
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18.  if it's good for them
which a terror attack would likely be.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:22 PM
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19. What state did Wellstone represent again?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:23 PM
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20. Hit the nail
Right on the head.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:41 PM
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22. Liberal Democrat from Minnesota worried about his safety and
the safety of his staff.

Where could Mark get these ideas?? <sarcasm on>
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:43 PM
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23. MINNESOTA... you betcha
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 07:44 PM by Oreo
It's hard to imagine what would be different if he was still alive. He would be backing Kerry and fighting the evil empire every second of the day!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:10 PM
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25. Bingo. We've got to keep a close eye on this one.
So many fires to put out.

The Sinclair mess is yet another "October Surprise," that is pulling attention away from the fact that Dayton has been threatened. Make no mistake, he would NEVER close his office unless he was threatened.

Mark Dayton has become the first U.S. senator to challenge the rush to consensus that "The 9/11 Commission Report" settles the open questions of Sept. 11, 2001.

In hearings last Friday, Sen. Dayton (D-MN) raised an obvious point: if the timeline of air defense response as promoted in the Kean Commission's best-selling book is correct, then the timeline presented repeatedly by NORAD during the last two years was completely wrong. Yet now no one at NORAD is willing to comment on their own timeline!


http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040731213239607

Mods, I believe, as this is a press release, it doesn't fall within copyright regs... If it does, let me know and I'll snip further.

On June 9, 2004, I was meeting with four Minnesotans in my Washington Senate office, when alarms sounded to evacuate the U.S. Capitol complex. One Minnesota woman was six months pregnant and making her first trip to Washington. We exited the air-conditioned building into 90-degree heat and humidity, joining hundreds of senators, staffers, and visitors walking or running away from the Capitol. As I helped my pregnant constituent down the sidewalk, I wondered if her ashen face and trembling lips signaled terror or exhaustion.

Later, I learned of the reasons for our evacuation. They made me doubt official assurances in recent Senate hearings that "much has changed since 9/11," either to prevent a reoccurrence or, at least, to improve our response to a terrorist attack.

People were told to "run for their lives" on June 9th, because "an unidentified target" entered restricted airspace 15 miles from the Capitol. The "unidentified target" was a private plane flying the Governor of Kentucky to Ronald Reagan National Airport, only seconds from the Pentagon, where another "unidentified target" exploded on 9/11. Nearly three years removed from that tragic day, this recent scare highlights how much remains to be done.

<snip>

When terrorists turned off the hijacked planes' transponders on 9/11, neither FAA nor NORAD, our nation's air defense command, could accurately locate or track the aircraft. It was one reason that FAA officials failed to notify NORAD about three of the four hijackings, before the planes crashed. It was the principal reason our military did not know about the plane approaching Washington, until it struck the Pentagon.

Upon his departure from Cincinnati last June 9th, the pilot of the Kentucky Governor's plane informed the FAA controller that his plane's transponder had "just quit." He should then have been denied clearance into Washington's Ronald Reagan National Airport. However, he was allowed to proceed. Lacking a functioning transponder, he was not properly identified by some of the seven federal agencies with jurisdiction over Washington's air space. On 9/11, no one responded. This time, someone reacted, but it was not the United States Air Force. Instead, the U.S. Customs Service launched a Blackhawk helicopter to face this unknown threat.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld claimed recently that our military on 9/11 was not supposed to defend us from enemy attacks within our borders. That responsibility, he stated, falls upon the FBI. This time, we got the U.S. Customs Service!

http://dayton.senate.gov/~dayton/releases/2004/08/2004825325.html

At long last, one member of the U.S. Senate has spoken out about the 9-11 report. Last Friday, during a Governmental Affairs committee meeting, Mark Dayton, a Democrat from Minnesota, directly attacked the government for distorting facts and covering up what happened that day. Highlights of his narrative:

Referring to the period between the first hijacking, at 8:14 a.m. and the crash of the fourth plane, at 10:03 a.m., Dayton said: "During those entire 109 minutes, to my reading of this report, this country and its citizens were completely undefended."

"According to findings, FAA authorities failed to inform military command, NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command, about three of the four hijackings until after the planes had crashed into their targets at the second World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the ground in Pennsylvania, which was not their target. NORAD then scrambled one of only two sets of fighter planes on alert in the entire eastern third of the country, one in Massachusetts and one in Virginia, but it didn't know where to send them—because the hijackers had turned off the plane's transponder so NORAD couldn't locate them on their radar, and they were still looking for it when it exploded into its target at 8:46 a.m."


"The second hijacking began, according to report, one minute later. NORAD wasn't notified until the same minute the same plane struck the second World Trade tower. It was five more minutes before NORAD's mission commander learned about that explosion—which was five minutes after thousands of Americans saw it on live television. By this time, the third plane's transponder was off. Communication had been severed, yet it was 15 minutes before the flight controller decided to notify the regional FAA center, which in turn did not inform FAA headquarters for another 15 minutes."

more...

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0431/mondo3.php


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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:17 PM
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27. Wow I wondered what spooked the scarecrows in the cornfield
I want a terror alert tied to how close or far from Washington DC my country's leaders choose to be on any given day. Let them be the canary in the mineshaft for a change.

So who's still in Washington DC? Any of them?
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:19 PM
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28. Maybe the terrorists want to show they can strike while Bush is in power.
Oh yeah, that already happened.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:20 PM
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29. My guess is that Dayton is making a statement ... calling out the R's on a
politically motivated ploy? Either that or he's calling them out on their failure to "protect Americans" by only providing the Senate (and not the public) with information related to a terror threat.

I know Mr. Dayton (not personally) but he's got a "legit" motive I guar-un-tee. :hi:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:46 PM
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31. I consider survival instinct a legitimate motive
so he gets no condemnation from me for leaving if he thinks it's too dangerous.

I just want to know what he knows.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:50 PM
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33. Oh gosh me too. His statement / position may have several motives
:shrug:

Personal saftey/concern for Public Safety
Get information out
Call their bluff

Either way, it's fine by me. :hi:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:54 PM
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34. Some people call in sick on high alert days
but you didn't hear that from me.

;)
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:22 PM
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30. Calling Frist's bluff. The plan is to thwart a staged terrorist attack
right before the election.

This is Karl Rove's plan. Totally transparent.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:01 PM
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35. 'Staged' meaning fake or
'Staged' meaning Rove planned and will execute a(nother?) terrorist attack?
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