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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 06:50 PM
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10/12 ELECTION MODEL: KERRY 323 EV, 98% WIN PROB, 51.13% OF THE VOTE
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:01 PM
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1. I think we have to be realistic...
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 07:03 PM by robcon
I don't think any poll with an "assumption" of 60% of undecided/other vote is valid. It is a "model" of the election, but it depends crucially on unsupported assumptions, IMO. I think the election is close, and either man could win it.

Kerry 260 Bush 274
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Bush 264 Kerry 233
http://www.dalythoughts.com/ecb.htm

New York Times
Leaning/strongly for Bush: 232
Leaning or strongly for Kerry: 221
Swing states: 85
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/politics/2004_ELECTIONGUIDE_GRAPHIC/

Slate Magazine
Bush: 215 solid, 137 close
Kerry: 153 solid, 33 close
http://slate.msn.com/id/2106527/

edit: add 'model' sentence
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undercover_brother Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:08 PM
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2. you partypooper. I was feeling all giddy
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:16 PM
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3. You are being unrealistic by failing to appreciate the Incumbent Rule.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-04 07:20 PM by TruthIsAll
Do you suspect a majority will go for Bush? On what basis?

The fact is that the challenger has historically won the undecided vote.

60% is conservative..75% is more likely.

Any professional pollster will tell you the same thing.

Read this:
http://unfutz.blogspot.com/2004/09/how-undecideds-break.html


And this:
An incumbent who can’t break 50 percent is in trouble, even if he’s ahead.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8694

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:16 PM
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4. The 60-40 break of undecideds against the incumbent is supported.
History shows that this is usually what happens.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 07:38 PM
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5. All the people I know who registered this year are voting for Kerry.
That's a considerable number. I personally don't know one new registrant who is voting for Shrub.

Thanks for the uplifting news, TIA.
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