Heads up! Frontline: "The Choice 2004" coming up on PBS 8pm CDT

[scarletwoman]

Contrasting the worldviews of Kerry and *.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/

It's Frontline -- a program known to commit actual journalism from time to time -- this might be good!

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[scarletwoman]

1. Wow! Footage of Kerry in a class at Yale!

I hope SOMEONE else is watching this besides me!

[0007]

7. I'm watching!

[scarletwoman]

9. Cool! Covering VVAW now... (n/t)

[scarletwoman]

2. *'s nickname at Yale was -- get this -- the "SMIRK"!

"Didn't apply himself at Yale", former prof (speaking of "Smirk").

[KittyWampus]

43. Seriously? He's ALWAYS Been The Smirk?

[scarletwoman]

46. Yep! You have GOT to see this program! It's awesome!

The * nickname business comes up in the first 5-10 minutes. If you can't catch this on TV, it will be streaming online on Friday. The link is in my first post.

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[southlandshari]

3. Interesting stuff so far

Pretty favorable overview of Kerry's time at Yale, followed by a lead in to an overview of Bush's time there that begins, "George Bush reacted very differently to Yale."

Talked about Kerry as a good student, driven, well-rounded, intellectual. Then said Bush didn't like the "overly intellectual" atmosphere at Yale (or something like that). He joined the rowdiest frat, etc...

HERE WE GO -- talking about the draft and how Kerry and Bush approached it....

[Bjornsdotter]

4. I tried to watch....

....it's on at 9:00 in the Chicago area. I'll tune in....is it good?

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

[scarletwoman]

5. Well, the first 10 minutes have been VERY complimentary to Kerry.

I'll keep posting as the program goes on...

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[scarletwoman]

6. Heh heh... "George enjoyed walking around in a flight suit." (n/t)

[Bjornsdotter]

47. OMG....that was so funny!

...whoever wrote the narrative has a sense of humor....the remark about Yale was good also.

Thanks for giving the heads up on this program.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

[southlandshari]

8. kick

this is EXCELLENT (so far)!

[Roland99]

10. 2 hour special, eh?

Hmm....doesn't this constitute a pro-Kerry campaign ad? Will Sinclair fly off the handle?

[scarletwoman]

12. Just the facts -- this is nothing but the facts.

:D

[Roland99]

14. Oh...I know

Plus...it covers Bush, too.

I'm sure Sinclair will find some way to spin it.

[MidwestMomma]

21. It just appears biased because when you present Kerry & Bush

TRUTHFULLY side by side, Bush is so SERIOUSLY lacking, it just can't help but appear Pro-Kerry. :-)

[scarletwoman]

11. This is SOOOOOO good!

Uh oh, here's where John O'Neill rears his ugly head. Meeting with Nixon, discussing the need to "destroy" John Kerry.

Wow, debate on Dick Cavett -- I had no idea there was so much archival footage! This is AMAZING!

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[gasperc]

26. they ran the whole debate in July or August on CSPAN

eom

[scarletwoman]

28. That's cool. I don't have cable, so this was my first look. (n/t)

[MirrorAshes]

13. "The Geneva Conventions, I presume you've heard of those?"

*THIS* is why John O'Neil hates Kerry so much. Well, theres alot there, but this was an absolutely devastating line.

[LittleClarkie]

38. My favorite line from the debate

And Kerry has such a smartass look on his face when he says it.

He just devastated O'Neill. All O'Neill could do was attack him on a personal level. Reminds me of now.

And O'Neill looks like such a jag doing it, too. I can't describe his attitude, but it makes me want to slap him.

[Zen Democrat]

15. Wow! This is really great so far. Frontline telling the truth!!

[southlandshari]

23. This is like salve on the wounds inflicted

by the rest of "objective" "mainstream" media in recent years. This Frontline special is breath-taking in its direct, honest approach to the history of both candidates (and the result is a pretty unflattering commentary on GWB).

If you are not already watching, TUNE IN!

I think it re-airs this Thursday AND Monday, Nov. 2. No stations forced to pre-empt regular programming in this case, Frontline is a staple on PBS.

Frontline programs are also made available in streaming video format on the PBS website. Don't know how long it will take to get it up, but check it tonight if you miss the broadcast. I'll be right back with a link...

[southlandshari]

25. Free online (streaming video) version will be up this Friday

October 15. Here's the link:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/

[scarletwoman]

27. Streaming will be available on Oct. 15 -- the link is in my first post.

Here it is again: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/

:hi:
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[southlandshari]

29. Sorry for the duplicate link post

I didn't follow the link because I was too engrossed in the show, so was unaware it led to the page with streaming video info!

[scarletwoman]

32. No prob! It's great! More chances that someone will see it!

:7

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[OKNancy]

16. Wonderful program

the contrast so far has been clear

[Zen Democrat]

17. Actually telling the truth about George's non-service in Guard! n/t

[MidwestMomma]

18. Very interesting and informative

Bob Holdeman tells Nixon, Kerry is impressive

Ties between Nixon and Oneil

Was that a Nixon memo stating 'let's destroy this young man before he becomes another Nader'????

Glad I saw this was on...

[scarletwoman]

20. Yep, that was a Nixon memo. (n/t)

[MidwestMomma]

22. Wow, Kerry survived Nixon dirty tricks....

I'm feeling even better about election day!!!

[LittleClarkie]

40. Yep, John Kerry, Ratfuck Veteran

He did it before and he can do it again.

[wishlist]

19. Great show- Kerry very impressive, Bush an irresponsible loafer

Narrator just mentioned Georgie's 'lost year' from National Guard and then showed the only picture that could be found of him at Harvard where he is blowing bubble gum!

[gasperc]

24. watching now in Detroit, pretty good

just got to blind sided by Lowell paper by Costello, during congressional campaign

[girl gone mad]

30. I'm tivoing it to watch later..

glad to hear that it's good.

[TheDonkey]

31. sorry to be superficial, but bush is an ugly young guy

and only got uglier. maybe that's his inside self coming through.

[MidwestMomma]

33. After the Bush segment about his early years

My daughter called and said "How is this man president?"

LOL

[scarletwoman]

34. Wow! The Nicaragua stuff!

This is some stuff I did not know about! Reagan, the fucking war criminal!

Now on to the rise of the religious right... Creepy...

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[nonconformist]

35. This is great - now THIS is what real journalism is. nt

[texasmom]

36. Thanks for the heads-up

It's just starting now in San Antonio!!

[Gabi Hayes]

37. on right now in Chicago.....taping

[southlandshari]

39. Wow - Bush (Rove) has been using fear to manipulate

his constituents since way back when. Frontline segment on his most effective campaign ad theme (Texas is dangerous, Texas is violent, Texas is scary under Ann Richards) is very interesting.

[scarletwoman]

42. Dirty tricks -- a bush* campaign signature.

They'll do ANYTHING to win, ANYTHING. Absolutely, totally amoral assholes!

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[MirrorAshes]

41. Wow--they just pointed out Bush's continued use of dirty tricks

pbs telling the truth!

[cynatnite]

44. Good Program!

They've really done a great and thorough job showing the truth about Kerry and Bush.

[scarletwoman]

45. Kerry vs. Weld coming up...

Kerry punches back! Sweet!

[MirrorAshes]

48. Keeps getting better! This is DESTROYING Bush!

[phish420]

49. Wow, That Was Awesome!!...nt

[BootinUp]

50. Wow, great program.

Really revealing look at both men.

At one point I was just utterly shocked at the life of the man that is our President. His total lack of self accomplishment. Then later the despicable politics. I knew all this stuff, but had never seen it strung together so well. It makes more of an impact.

Kerry made mistakes too. But he obliterates Bush in the ability to learn from the past, and solve problems, and bring people together.