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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:24 PM
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Remeber Saudi pledge to lower oil prices pre-election?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-01.htm

Remember last spring when Woodward's book came out and it said that the Saudis would increase production/lower oil prices before the election to help BushCo?

What happened to that plan?

(In the article they were talking about $37 a barrel being high. My, how far we've come!)
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:25 PM
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1. It's coming. You don't think they're going to let oil hit $60/barrell by
November 1st, do you?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:31 PM
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3. I guess there's still plenty of time, huh
I guess I picture gas prices changing a little more slowly, but that wouldn't have quite the effect.
And since the prices have so little basis in reality they can (and probably will) change overnight.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:29 PM
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2. Guess the Saudis got a-skeered by being exposed.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 08:37 PM
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4. My guess is that they were busted
so they didn't go through with it - or they are pissed at how things are going in Iraq.







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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:43 PM
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14. Yes. Kerry called Bush out on it following Woodward's lead
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:09 PM
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5. they're being relentlessly villified....
not only by anti busheviks by by the busheviks themselves.....saudis probably get alot more return (nudge wink) by helping kerry and letting prices sink geeb (dumber brother of floriduh guv geb)
>>though there were no hijackers on 911 (the wtc destruction was a part of internal US intelligence excercise gone wrong) 15 of the 19 non existent hijackers were saudis....one non existent terrorist's passport was found in perfect condition in wtc rubble(!!) 19 hijackers, 15 were saudi arabians...19 hijackers (8 documented still very alive)...15 of the 19 (minus 8 still living etc) were saudis...NINETEEN terrs...FIfTEEN saudis....
NINETEEN HIJACKERS...repeat NINETEEN...NINETEEEN...15 of them were saudi arabians (but 8 still alive(??)
we've bin had
lol
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:16 PM
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6. i fully agree we've been had
but i'm not sure i get your point. are you saying that you think bushco is under the saudi's thumb or vice versa?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:18 PM
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10. saudis are powerless....
and they can't even prevent the mediawhores using them as patsys for 911 etc, despite their 'oil wealth' which, under normal circumstances, should cause cnn etc to tread softly, but cnn etc mock the saudis, knowing full well there's nothing they can do....
as for bushco, well, the ruling elite in US is vast, powerful, secretive and fragmented.....for example jfk was murdered 40 years ago, and all the public record's got to show is a mountain of confusing facts....911 was not that complicated an operation (how many people know that an 'exercise' involving hijacked jets crashing into pentagon etc was being carried out at exactly same time the wtc towers were destroyed?) when you consider the thing was staged by men who controlled the presentatiion and had billions of dollars and entire military industrial complex at hand, plus hollywood trickery etc (re: david copperfield once made statue of liberty disappear ON LIVE TV!) then it was easy, in fact much easier then stealing the 2k election...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:27 PM
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11. i know exactly what you're saying
about 911. i'm kinda glad to see that spoken here. as a newbie i'm still unsure what topics are taboo (i've been surprised at the reactions i've gotten on a few things, so i've been trying to tread lightly on 'controversial' issues). so you think the bushies are hoping people have just forgotten their spring pledge?
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:22 PM
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7. There simply isn't enough time for even a $10 dollar drop to manifest...
...a price change at the pump. My take? The hard-liners in the mid-east have leaned hard on the Saudis to "lay out" and let the chips fall where they may—not to be anti-Bush, but more of an "anti-the-U.S.-getting-a-special-favor-and-making-us-look-like-patsies-to-our-angry-religious-populaces".

Trust me, those pix of Bandar reclining at the ranch minus his burnoose and robes and wearing snakeskin cowboy boots and denim shirts as he sucks up to Bush DID NOT play well over there to the "rabble" who hate the oil-baron muckety-mucks in charge.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:32 PM
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8. In a real market that is true
but doesn't bushco and their corporate oil-lies (bad pun on allies - i just made that up tee-hee) have enough sway to make the prices at the pump drop fast?

our gas prices (what we pay at the pump) are so far removed from the reality of the cost of oil that i wonder if they could do it anyway.
Either way, I would love Kerry to bring that up at the debate tomorrow!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 09:35 PM
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9. Yes, remember is spelled wrong in my thread topic
but my editing period has expired.

how embarassing

:P
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:34 PM
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12. You think $54 a barrel is bad...
I read an article yesterday where some so called experts say we may see figures in the mid 60 before this is all said and done!


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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 10:37 PM
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13. the pump prices are not keeping up with crude though....
here in chicago it's the same as when it was $42/barrel - ~$2/gal. So the retailers are trying to hold back the dam. after the election we're looking at $2.75/gal
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