Bush wins with this Sinclair Mess

[nirvana3240]

This is from TEENAGE ENTHUSIAST at
http://www.teenageenthusiast.blogspot.com

Ok I know it, I think you know it, the polls show it. When the talk is about the issues, Kerry wins. When the talk is of Vietnam scandals, or other frivolous non-sense and coversation is not about real issues, Bush wins. Look at August and early September. When the talk was about swift boats and CBS and not about Iraq or the economy, Kerry's poll numbers sank. Bush's went up.

This Sinclair mess, does just that. It distracts from the news, and it keeps people from concentrating on Iraq and other real-world issues. I am beginning to think that whether or not the "story" airs, Bush will get helped out because we're not talking about the real things that are happening. Could that remotely, possibly, maybe, be Sinclairs underlying motive? Think they know its a bonus?

Just a theory.

[nirvana3240]

1. hellooooo?

anyone out there?

[Guaranteed]

2. Nope, you're totally right.

That's exactly what Edwards just said.

[jab105]

3. It's late...but, I think you are right...

n/t

[LVdem]

4. I don't agree

I think the public sees through all this "happened 35 years ago" stuff. What else can be said about Kerry's Vietnam service? What will people learn from this Sinclair debacle that they haven't already heard over the past 4 months?

I'm just glad the swiftvetnuts blew their perverbial wad in August and not October.

[K8-EEE]

5. I Have Mixed Feelings

I honestly don't know. In a way I want to flex some muscle and tell the FCC and Sinclair that we will not stand for this abuse of the broadcast airwaves etc.

But then again I hate having the focus off of * and his failed presidency, and I don't want to create any publicity for them.

The clips I have seen have been dull, uninspired same old warmed over BS. NO match for F-9/11

In a way I think the best thing would be to organize MASS house party screenings of F-9/11 on that day! With celebs and the whole nine, take the attention off of that boring show of theirs!

[RafterMan]

6. I disagree

I keep repeating this, but remember how Arnold's poll numbers went up by 10 points when the groping stories came out. People felt the charges were a blatant attempt at media manipulation of the election.

Tap into that sentiment, and Kerry wins.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

7. Yes I think there's something to this.

I point out to people: What was the news in Aug and early Sep? Friggin Swifties and memogate. Crappy time for us.

Debates: Not just that Kerry is doing better than Bush , but also it's the fact that this FORCES IRAQ into focus. And that doesn't go well on Bush.

So yeah, it does make me wonder whether the Sinclair crap is designed to focus yet again on Vietnam/Swiftie type nonsense to remove news away from Bush crappy debate performance and the fact that Iraq is a debacle.

[mzmolly]

8. Great website! I think it's a win/win for Bush at this point.

Edwards did just elude to what you said on Leno though. :hi:

WELCOME TO DU!

[Julien Sorel]

9. I agree somewhat.

Issues are a strength for the Democrats. However, the reason the Swift Hoax had any legs was the time period -- it happened in the lull in between national conventions. So the media cast about looking for something to stir shit up, and that was it.

Now, there are only a few weeks until the election, and we have the debate coming up, the post-debate spinning, then the huge push until voting day. The media will have plenty of crap to sling between now and then, so there isn't as big a vacuum to fill with nonsense. I think a bigger stink has been made about this Sinclair thing than it would have made on its own, in fact.

[librechik]

10. no, Sinclair is our issue

we can't do anything about Iraq now--but we must express ourselves about the erosion of our democracy here at home, or lose the opportunity.

[nirvana3240]

11. look at it this way...

you see though, What would have a bigger effect on swing voters?

Iraq, where our sons and daughters are getting killed and it is absolute chaos
-OR-
Sinclair, A few rich guys showing some worthless propaganda.

[librechik]

17. Look at it this way--

if sinclair (and their ilk) decide not to say anything about our kids getting killed in Iraq, very few people will even think about it. If they say it's improving and freedom is on th march, people will believe them and not worry about our soldiers.

It's what they show that counts, not what really happens. Sad but true.

[Bleacher Creature]

12. I have to agree

They knew the firestorm this would produce. It was calculated and intentional. I'm not saying we should have ignored it, but it's getting WAY more attention than it would have before we got up in arms.

At the same time, it's such a threat to our democracy that you just can't let it go unanswered.

I just don't know the answer.

[nirvana3240]

13. yes

yes, there in lies the dilemmma

[incapsulated]

14. It's a mixed bag

It makes Sinclair and the rethugs in general look like scum.

But it's also free advertising for a Kerry hit piece most people would have never known about otherwise and gives the media the chance to bring up all the Vietnam shit again.

I don't know.

:shrug:

I just want their charter revoked and fines all over the fucking place at the end of the day!!

[BUSHOUT]

15. "Ok I know it, I think you know it, the polls show it." F#UCK OFF TROLL!

Kerry is winning with or without Sinclair.

You know it, I know it, and the polls show it!

[gatorboy]

16. Well, you can forget the FCC doing anything.

They're working on the important things like fining Janet Jackson's boobies or giving penalties to Fox for showing scenes from bachelor and bachelorette parties.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041013/D85M8GM82.html

I mean, do they really have time to look at this Sinclair thing when they have scenes of brief nudity they have to stay on top of?

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

18. October Surprise

this is part of the october surprise(s)...expect more

we have only a finite amount of time to get kerry's message across, and this crap is wasting our time debating it and voters time to learn more about Kerry.

this post is so true

and several weeks from now if bush wins you all will spend spend countless hours compalining that:

'we should have done more'
'we should have picked up the phone at the phone bank'
'we should have spent less time posting and more time doing'

[snowbear]

19. SINclair

I haven't kept up with this whole 90 minute attack bash that Sinclair is doing.. but I do have just one question-

I know that a complaint was filed to the FCC, but will there be a hearing of some sort with them?

Or is the show going on regardless? :(

If there will be a hearing, is there even a slight chance they won't be able to go ahead with this?

Thanks for any clarification.. I'm so confused! :crazy:

[nirvana3240]

20. idk

I dont know what the exact process is....but I dont think the FCC thing will go anywhere.

[AVID]

21. I agree