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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:51 AM
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Clark and Kerry supporters and undecideds, contact the Kerry campaign
and urge them to halt attacks on Clark. I think we have more in common even within this primary than not.

I called his Boston headquarters and told them I'm taking down the Kerry sign from my parents yard and will not vote for him in the Mass primary as I was planning to if he pursues this course of action.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:52 AM
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1. Neither one is on my short list
so they can duke it out all they want.

Sorry...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:52 AM
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2. Kerry must go on the attack against Clark
Clark is what stands between him and being capable of continuing. He has to go after Clark or drop out.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:53 AM
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3. Contact the Kerry Campaign: Urge them to reveal the real Clark
Fully vetting someone's corproate ties is not an attack.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:07 AM
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14. They Are Public. Clark Has Nothing To Hide
and is proud of what he's done in Life.

He earned every penny he's made. Unlike Kerry who started life with great advantages.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:54 AM
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4. it can only make him stronger
if you are talking about kerry calling for clark to disclose info on where he got the money, he should get it out now. i don't even contact dean or others to stop attacking kerry, so i'm not going to do this.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:56 AM
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8. I don't think Dean and his people have much decency, Kerry and Clark do
that's all
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:54 AM
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5. Oh, who cares
Clark isn't going to get smeared because there is nothing there.
Being a lobbyist is perfectly legal, and since he didn't lobby for weapons...all the better.

Oh, I wonder how many of the Kerry staff are former lobbyists???
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lib 4 all Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:54 AM
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6. Clark is the primary drain on Kerry's support
he has to go after Clark to stay in the race, and it's a much more productive use of his campaigning than attacking Dean. He should have been doing it from that start instead of giving Clark a free pass for the first several weeks.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:09 AM
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15. No Denying Your Statement
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:55 AM
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7. Sorry Bombtrack

I'm a big Clark supporter , but Kerry is doing what he feels he needs to do in order to help HIS campaign. He needs a #2 finish in NH, and Clark stands in the way.

I'm confident the General can handle it, and more than confident that the two of them will remain friends (and more importantly political allies) when all is said and done.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:57 AM
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9. Let him do it. . . .
. . .the type of campaign that Clark as run allows him to take attacks and Kerry is hurting himself in the long run.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:05 AM
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10. Hey Bombtrack, you are right and Kerry is my number #2 guy...
Thanks for the post.

I like Kerry's statements and position on alternative
energy, a topic very dear to me.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:06 AM
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12. It's Clark/Kerry, Clark/Edwards or Clark/Gephardt for me.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:06 AM
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11. Funny Thing-Kerry Has A Whole Web Page Trying To Smear Clark
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:10 AM by cryingshame
and it ends up making Clark look good! :D

Clark is open about what he's done and where and how he's earned his money.

He is an expert on National Security.

Kerry should know about the Hart/Rudman Report, Al Gore's report on Airline Security and 9/11. All these things showed we needd to take Terrorism and Airline safety more seriously... there's alot more to be done.

Name Recogntion is not sufficient for screening passengers.

Kerry is trying to smear Clark using the word "Lobbyist". Does this mean Kerry will never hire someone from the Sierra Club to work in the EPA if he's elected.

Last night Kerry brushed aside Matthew's question about O'Neill's revelation to talk about Dean.

Clark on the other hand, made a statement calling on Congress to investigate this.

Kerry apparently is too distracted by the Campaign in Iowa to be a Senator... maybe he needs to resign. Think of all the votes he missed.

Further, Kerry is getting Shaheen to smear Clark today in NH.- Kerry can't even do that for himself.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:07 AM
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13. Can I get a link
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:14 AM
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17. Sure, It's A Kerry Press Release From His Website
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 10:15 AM by cryingshame
Clark was using his expertise in National Security to deal with the problems that Terrorism etc. present the Country.

My favorite part of the release is where it says- GASP- Clark worked as an advisor for three months for FREE before finally asking for some compensation. The HORROR :D

What does it say when the worst slam Kerry can come up with ends up making Clark look like the concerned Patriot he is.


http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0109c.html
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:56 AM
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34. Wow, Kerry looks a little desparate. I guess he and Dean are into negative
campaigning....


I still hope Clark stays positive and honorable.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:02 AM
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37. Lobbyists for defense contractors are concerned patriots?
Hmmmm, never heard that before. I'll have to write that down so I don't forget it.

What do you have to say about working for Jackson Stephens? THE Jackson Stephens who was involved in BCCI:

http://www.questionsquestions.net/bushladen/profiles/bcci2.html

THE Jackson Stephens with a significant presence in Venice, FL:

http://www.madcowprod.com/index8.html

And soooo much more. PROMIS software, for example. Bankroller of both the Bill Clinton AND George W. Bush campaigns?

Is Jackson Stephens a concerned patriot too?

Eloriel
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:09 AM
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16. Don't worry about it
Kerry is pretty mediocre when it comes to attacks. You should be alright.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:26 AM
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18. Let them
hang themselves. The important thing is how well Clark handles things.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:31 AM
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19. If Kerry uses only the facts to differentiate from Clark, it's OK and to
be expected. That way there are no surprises if he's the nominee and the issue is used by BushInc.

However, if he lies about Clark the way Dean did, then that would prompt a stern letter from me to his campaign.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:36 AM
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21. Unfortunately, Dean didn't lie.
He used Clark's own words, verbatim.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:40 AM
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24. Really like Clark's a Republican? He said that - where? n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:42 AM
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26. He didn't say that.
You can read the flyer on Clark's blog. Bottom line--- he didn't call Clark a Republican.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:56 AM
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33. In Oct. he said Clark was a Republican till 25 days ago on live TV.
That was false.

When Kerry brought it up, he said Clark was a "newly minted Democrat" and because he had switched from Independent THAT was true.

Big difference.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:57 AM
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36. Maybe not on the flyer, but he has said that...
either way, the flyer stunt is pathetic and disgusting.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:57 AM
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35. Hey, Dean has called Clark a Republican, that's a lie...
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:35 AM
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20. How refreshing!
Maybe the Dean campaign will get a short respite, most of which will be spent picking the buckshot out of OUR asses. Welcome to the primaries, Clark campaigners! :P
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lib 4 all Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:38 AM
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22. don't you mean "welcome to the party"?
it sort of reminds me of Lieberman's weak attack about "welcome to the Democratic primary". I always thought he should have said "welcome to the Democratic PARTY".

Looks like maybe the Clark honeymoon is finally over.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:40 AM
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23. What honeymoon?
He's been attacked since day 1 (upon declaring).
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:43 AM
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27. Anyway, Clark Usually Ends Up Looking Good When Attacked
Even over the radio :D ... as evidenced by the SOA question he answered on Laura Knoy's show (run on Cspan last night).

And the Dean Campaign's attempt just came back to bite him on the ass.
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lib 4 all Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:43 AM
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28. the only person who has been handled with kid gloves more than Clark
has been Sharpton.

No one has gone after Clark very hard so far in the debates... though Clark has been ducking them lately.
Perhaps he knows what's coming.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:44 AM
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30. Clark hasn't even had a TASTE of what an 'attack' is.
But he's about to get a taste.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:47 AM
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31. Not a republican
was the attack on the very first debate. Can't make up his mind about Iraq has been a recurring attack. Lobbyist, the pro-war lie, campaign is fizzling, etc. . Where have you been?
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lib 4 all Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:52 AM
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32. "not a republican"? but I thought he was...
anyways, no one has really called his party ID into question yet, only his political experience.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:43 AM
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29. HA!
As a Dean supporter, trust me--- Clark hasn't been 'attacked'-- yet.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:41 AM
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25. Thanks for a statement of principle
These are two great men. They should be standing together at the end of the day.

Yes, they are competing for the same prize and there will be differences between them. I think the "attacks" are ok as long as they make fair points in a factual manner and apply the highest standard of truth telling. Taking one statement among thousands and painting an inaccurate picture of the overall person is unfair and misleading. Politics as usual.

It will be interesting to see how IWR plays out in NH. I think Kerry and Clark are actually very close on this matter. I don't believe Clark had a philosophical problem with using a resolution to pressure Sadaam, which was basically what Kerry was trying to accomplish with his vote. NONE of our candidates would have chosen the course Bush did, but some of them were forced to vote on a resolution. If they voted in the affirmative, that doesn't make them pro Bush's Iraq war. We have wasted so much time arguing about each candidate's anti-war bona fides. It's childish and destructive. For the benefit of the party, I hope Clark and Kerry can find some common ground here.
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