Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

This is BIGGER than Sinclair! (IMHO)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:08 AM
Original message
This is BIGGER than Sinclair! (IMHO)
Folks, this is voter fraud, a FELONY, coming at you straight from the RNC. My apologies to nothingshocksme for stealing this topic, but I think it could be the nail in their coffin if we can get the media to pick it up.

George Knapp, Investigative Reporter
Voter Registrations Possibly Trashed


Employees of a private voter registration company allege that hundreds, perhaps thousands of voters who may think they are registered will be rudely surprised on election day. The company claims hundreds of registration forms were thrown in the trash.

Anyone who has recently registered or re-registered to vote outside a mall or grocery store or even government building may be affected.

The I-Team has obtained information about an alleged widespread pattern of potential registration fraud aimed at democrats. Thee focus of the story is a private registration company called Voters Outreach of America, AKA America Votes.

<snip>

"We caught her taking Democrats out of my pile, handed them to her assistant and he ripped them up right in front of us. I grabbed some of them out of the garbage and she tells her assisatnt to get those from me," said Eric Russell, former Voters Outreach employee.

<snip>

The company has been largely, if not entirely funded, by the Republican National Committee. Similar complaints have been received in Reno where the registrar has asked the FBI to investigate.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe

They have also been misrepresenting themselves in other States as members of America Votes, who are seeking a cease and desist against them:

http://www.ala.org/al_onlineTemplate.cfm?Section=American_Libraries&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=76329

The company is run by Nathan Sproul of the Arizona Republican Party. He was also busy trying to get Nader on the ballot among other disgusting deeds and misrepresentations:

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/19886.php

Please email the media about this story!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
1. So what can they do now? Reopen registration??
Very clever of the perps to hold this off until registration is closed huh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
2. The article has the AKA wrong. Here is the link to America Votes.
It is a Democratic group with Emily's List, Democracy for America, and many others.
www.americavotes.org

The following organizations are the partners of America Votes - representing over 20 million Americans across the country. Click on the links below to learn about their work on issues and politics.


ACORN
AFL-CIO
AFSCME
America Coming Together (ACT)
American Federation of Teachers
Association of Trial Lawyers of America
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence United With the Million Mom March
Clean Water Action
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund
Democracy for America
EMILY's List
Environment2004
The Human Rights Campaign
League of Conservation Voters
The Media Fund
MoveOn.org Voter Fund
Moving America Forward
Music for America
NAACP National Voter Fund
NARAL Pro-Choice America
National Education Association
National Jewish Democratic Council
National Treasury Employees Union
Partnership for America's Families
People for the American Way
Planned Parenthood Action Fund
SEIU
Sierra Club
USAction
Voices for Working Families
Young Voter Alliance
21st Century Democrats
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:24 AM
Response to Original message
3. gotta kick that!
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:25 AM
Response to Original message
4. Already discussed here:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. There can't be enough threads on it
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 AM by incapsulated
The way things sink around here. *sigh*

I hope mine isn't the last.

Edit for stupid spelling error!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. I think it deserves a sticky!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 AM
Response to Original message
7. kick, and kick the dupes, nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. I already sent it to my local
newspaper in Wisconsin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
9. kick
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:57 AM
Response to Original message
10. I hope the DNC lawyers get going on this NOW
This means WAR!

This is BEYOND dirty campaigning.

The RNC is literally RIPPING AWAY the rights of Americans to vote.

Is there ANYTHING more unAmerican than that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. Isn't the FBI good enough?
The video showed the former workers going into the FBI office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. It hasn't been enough in the PLAME case...or the Niger forgeries.....
Do you trust John Ashcroft? Everyone knows the Justice department pulls the strings at the FBI.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:16 AM
Response to Original message
12. I don't see where the company is 'run by Sproul'
Been researching an hour. Where is the link that says he runs the company? I can't find it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. In the second link...
About the group misrepresenting themselves as "America Votes".

Meghan O’Flaherty, library manager of the Jackson County Headquarters Library, checked into a letter from a group called Sproul & Associates asking to set up a voter-registration booth in the library. The letter began: “Our firm has been contracted to help coordinate a national non-partisan voter registration drive, America Votes! in several states across the nation.” Checking the Internet, O’Flaherty found that Sproul & Associates is a political consulting firm headed by former Arizona State Republican Party Executive Director Nathan Sproul.

An employee at Sproul & Associates said the group’s drive is called Project America Votes and admitted to knowing about the similar names. Claiming an innocent mistake, Sproul said in the September 21 Medford Mail Tribune, “We were not trying to copy their name. All we were trying to do was register people to vote. You telling me that they even exist was really the first time I’d heard it.”

They also did so in the first article I posted: "private registration company called Voters Outreach of America, AKA America Votes."

I can't imagine this is a coincidence. I believe this is the same front company.

I admit my brain is a bit fried right now, though, and I can't prove it. I shouldn't have posted it that way, on second thought, but I cant change it now.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:35 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Also, he's done this sort of thing before...
Trickery, I mean. From the article I posted about him:

Sproul's machinations are nothing new: According to Rob Boston of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, when Sproul was the Arizona field director for the Christian Coalition in the early 1990s he encouraged members to run for Republican precinct committee chairs and mislead voters about their Christian Coalition affiliation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
15. You are so totally right on this. It's HUGE! My compliments (again)
Here we have a voter registration firm funded by the GOP destroying Democratic registrations in a swing state! F***ing awesome.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Thank nothingshocksmeanymore...
I stole it from another thread, heh. And there is a third one, as well. I was just concerned it would die.

But it doesn't matter, as long as we all find out.

:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
19. What else can we do
to insure as many law enforcement agencies as possible can investigate this occurrence?

Incidentally, Al Franken picked this up. I heard him say something about it at 12:30 or so.
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:47 PM
Response to Original message
20. Oregon Librarian Thwarts Voter-Registration Fraud
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 12:51 PM by cal04
Oregon Librarian Thwarts Voter-Registration Fraud A librarian in Medford, Oregon, uncovered in September the real identity of a group claiming to be part of a nonpartisan, nationwide voter-registration organization called America Votes.

The group had called and sent letters to several libraries in Oregon, including Multnomah County, West Slope, and Corvallis-Benton County.

Meghan O’Flaherty, library manager of the Jackson County Headquarters Library, checked into a letter from a group called Sproul & Associates asking to set up a voter-registration booth in the library. The letter began: “Our firm has been contracted to help coordinate a national non-partisan voter registration drive, America Votes! in several states across the nation.” Checking the Internet, O’Flaherty found that Sproul & Associates is a political consulting firm headed by former Arizona State Republican Party Executive Director Nathan Sproul.

An employee at Sproul & Associates said the group’s drive is called Project America Votes and admitted to knowing about the similar names. Claiming an innocent mistake, Sproul said in the September 21 Medford Mail Tribune, “We were not trying to copy their name. All we were trying to do was register people to vote. You telling me that they even exist was really the first time I’d heard it.”

O’Flaherty contacted Kevin Looper, the state organizing director for America Votes, who told her that Sproul & Associates had absolutely nothing to do with his organization. “You’ll have to forgive me for not finding it credible that they would not have heard of a group that is one of the largest in the country.” He also said that America Votes is “in the process of pursuing all of our legal options to pursue cease and desist.” Looper credits O’Flaherty’s and other Oregon librarians’ quick thinking in the matter: “If it wasn’t for their initiative on it, I would not have known about it.”

http://www.ala.org/al_onlineTemplate.cfm?Section=september2004abc&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=76329
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC