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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:59 AM
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GEPHART BEST in head to head against bush
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 12:18 PM by bearfartinthewoods
Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. Jan. 8-9, 2004. N=842 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

"Suppose the next general election for president were being held TODAY and you had to choose between George W. Bush, the Republican, and , the Democrat -- who would you vote for?" If "Other" or "Undecided": "As of TODAY, do you LEAN more toward Bush, the Republican, or , the Democrat?" Names rotated

geph 7%....dean 8%..clark 9% ...kerry and lieberman 11%....Edwards 16%

edited to fix really stupid math mistake
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:02 PM
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1. The best against Bush is someone who kissed Bush ass the last three years?
No thanks :grr:
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:12 PM
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10. you mean Clark?
lol

"And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice... people I know very well - our president George W. Bush. We need them there."

"We were really helped when President Ronald Reagan came in. I remember non-commissioned officers who were going to retire and they re-enlisted because they believed in President Reagan."

Clark continued: "That's the kind of President Ronald Reagan was. He helped our country win the Cold War. He put it behind us in a way no one ever believed would be possible. He was truly a great American leader. And those of us in the Armed Forces loved him, respected him, and tremendously admired him for his great leadership."

Clark on President George Bush: "President George Bush had the courage and the vision... and we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship."


"Do you ever ask why it is that these people in these other countries can't solve their own problems without the United States sending its troops over there? And do you ever ask why it is the Europeans, the people that make the Mercedes and the BMW's that got so much money can't put some of that money in their own defense programs and they need us to do their defense for them?"

"And I'll tell you what I've learned from Europe is that are a lot of people out in the world who really, really love and admire the United States. Don't you ever believe it when you hear foreign leaders making nasty comments about us. That's them playing to their domestic politics as they misread it. Because when you talk to the people out there, they love us. They love our values. They love what we stand for in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights."
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:23 PM
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13. best is someone who stood for us while Dean sold us out
Social liberalism is NOT the main issue for most Americans, no matter how hard it is for college liberals to understand that.
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Hoosier Democrat Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:02 PM
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2. Read the poll a bit closer
If you look again, all of the major candidates (except Edwards) fall within the polls margin of error. Thus, Gephardt, Dean, Clark, and Kerry all have about the same standing in the polls.

Of course, I also noticed the Fox News poll shows Bush blowing all of the Dems out of the water. Surprise!!
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:08 PM
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5. Good point, basically Faux News blows
But you're right, all of your mentioned candidates are in the MOE. However Gep has to win Iowa or he's toast.



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Waistdeep Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:06 PM
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3. That's a HIGHLY misleading thread title
Sorry, with a MOE of 4% in the Newsweek poll, you cannot distinguish results that differ by 1 or 2%. No scientist would see any difference between the results for the top 5 candidates vs. George Bush.
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batman Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:07 PM
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4. Dean is within 8 points... not 9
Dean is just behind Gep, and Clark/Kerry are tied for third with a 9 point spread.

In other words any of our top candidates can/will beat Bush.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:10 PM
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8. Bingo!
Give the man a "McNabb beating the hell outta Rush" action figure set.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:21 PM
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11. you are right...sorry
i was so blown away by seeing geph's numbers, i think i went into shock.

this has to be name recognition, right? i cannot fathom any other answer.

i freakin give up...
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:08 PM
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6. How about all the data.
Bush v. Dean 51% 43%
Bush v. Clark 50% 41%
Bush v. Gephardt 50% 43%
Bush v. Kerry 52% 41%
Bush v. Lieberman 52% 41%
Bush v. Edwards 54% 38%
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:08 PM
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7. gephardt?
poppycock
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:11 PM
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9. Gephardt is better than Bush n/t
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 12:22 PM
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12. WOW, they all are doing well against Bush
especially for this early in the game.
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