OFFICIAL BUSH-KERRY DEBATE THREAD # 8

[newyawker99]

[Thrill]

1. Bush is not doing well

at all in my opinion

[da_chimperor]

10. I think he's doing better than number 1

but it has to be seen if he'll manage to get up to a pathetic number 2 performance. I think he can still spaz out like in the last one.

[justinfielding]

11. He got distracted by the phone call in his ear...

from Laura Bush, asking him where the packing boxes are.

[ReadTomPaine]

12. So far he's just a hair better than debate #2, IMO.

[DainBramaged]

34. Anyone with a brain has made up their mind over Chimp spew.

Tool is a word that does not do this clown justice.

[da_chimperor]

2. Our healthcare is NOT the envy of the world

other countries ask 'what the hell is wrong with you' regarding our healthcare system, or lack thereof.

[ogradda]

20. we have good health care

it's getting to it that's the fucking problem.

[da_chimperor]

38. Exactly, the fact that so many people don't have it

is why we aren't the envy of the world. They have great healthcare in other countries, germany for example, but even so people with no money at all can get the healthcare we need. It really is sad that we don't take better care of our own citizens.

[LiberalFighter]

77. Checking on that and back about 2002 or so USA rank 37th

Doesn't sound like we have the best... definitely not the best for all Americans... sure it might be the best for some of our citizens... especially the well-off

[4_Legs_Good]

Does anyone still believe that our healthcare is the envy of the world???

I don't think so.

I had dinner with someone from Denmark and someone from Italy the other day, and let me say I could not envy them more.

david

[kypp]

3. I agree - he sounds so angry.

[crickets]

4. Who are the Luwen Report (sp) people?

And why do I not believe they aren't politically affiliated?

* has some nerve to mention rationing, considering I have no health care at all.


Bush's VA funding stats are LIES!!!

[Kierkegaard]

16. Tha loon report.

They know more than the man who wrote the plan. Look around shithead, he's standing right next to you!!!

[annabanana]

5. Kerry has to repeat himself because BUSH DOESN'T GET IT

[Neshanic]

6. LOCKBOX ! It comes back.

[funkybutt]

7. veterans have good health care....because I say so!

[ocean girl]

8. veterans getting very good health care under my admin

BULLSHIT - ask my WWII wounded veteran father, you asshole!!

[kitkatrose]

9. VA isn't getting increased funding!

it's going to his oil buddies.

[da_chimperor]

22. Of course not, and education isn't getting sufficent funding either

it's all going to buying new toys for rummy and new mansions for bush's buddies.

[XanaDUer]

66. I work in an ancilliary health field

Veterans are now being told that they cannot get care unless their health problem is, get this, *COMBAT RELATED*.

So, that means when the old 70-something-old veteran goes to his VA hospital, with, say, acute cholelithiasis, he is now sent to the already-overburdened public hospital because gallstones are not combat related.

BUSH-YOU ARE A FUCKING LYING BASTARD AND I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL!

[LiberalFighter]

92. He cut VA services in our area (NE Indiana)

[AntiFascist]

Corporate welfare while the stock market nosedives!

[autorank]

13. Why is this clown * smiling?

[Texas_Dem]

14. OK.. don't know about ya'll, but that goofy grin of Shrub's is creepy

[shanti]

28. he's trying not to smirk or frown

like last time(s). it's not working.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

15. So why didn't you act anytime in the last four years, Smitty?

[ClintonTyree]

17. They'llcontinue to get their checks........................

just not as much.

[antonialee839]

32. When does this idiot bring

pukes and Democrats together?

[jmowreader]

70. On November 2

When we come together to send Bush back to Crawford.

[annabanana]

18. * pushing privatizing ss.......EVERYBODY GAMBLE!!!

[Gregorian]

19. Bush has learned that lying to stupid people, works.

He is getting away with all of these lies. I think.

[ocean girl]

21. yeah, just as creepy as O'Lielly

[GimmeDANEger]

23. we should take a page out of Bush's book

and show the clip of him saying "Don't vote for Bush or he'll take your social security away" and disregard the rest of the statement!

[misterphelps]

24. What a stark difference...

Kerry is very together.

I can't believe this guy is the president

[imax2268]

25. Kerry is hammering him...

for sure...

[Neshanic]

26. Hey "youngsters", you hip no SS money kiddies!

[Johnny 99]

27. I don't have enough education to find a job?

My master's degree in chemical engineering is somehow insufficient? That's interesting, George. How should I retrain? I already owe $30,000 in school loans right now.

[shanti]

35. go back to junior college!

that's the ticket!

[ezekiel333]

29. Veterans are getting "very good health care"

Bullshit. Go ask them. Visit a a VA Hospital or nursing home, where the vets that cannot get into a VA care center live.

[XanaDUer]

91. Yup-see my above post #66.

Bush is a lying scumbag.

[kitkatrose]

30. Yeah, let's privatize SS--That's the answer.

:eyes:

[Kipepeo]

31. He doesn't bring ANYONE together

except his fanbase

[Thrill]

33. KATHARINE SEELYE Nytimes

Bush tries a line that falls flat, though it's doubtful that he rehearsed this one. He says "it's not credible to quote'' leading news organizations, trying, what, to draw us back to CBS? Or is this just a slam on the old media? In any case, he quickly moved on and brought up... the Lewin report??!! What in the world is the Lewin report?? An Al Gore "Dingell-Norwood" moment.

[ReadTomPaine]

44. Consistency is not a Bush strong point.

[apnu]

45. hammer him JK! hammer him!

[apnu]

36. whooo boy! he's a uniter again! bush lies!

[annabanana]

37. 2 trillion dollar hole inSS...cost of privatizing

[crickets]

39. Privatizing Social Security

is a DISASTROUS idea - glad John is going to hammer that point home.

[antonialee839]

50. * smirking furiously

I wonder when the stack will blow?

[Andrushka]

40. An invitation to disaster

..just like voting for *.

Excellent Kerry!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

41. Bush looks like he's going to be sick.

[ReadTomPaine]

49. His head is red and shiny.

[kitkatrose]

42. Bring on the deficit!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

43. Sigh!

Kerry is killing him. Overkill. I think I may watch something else.

[apnu]

52. no! bush needs to be beaten down badly!

[daa]

46. You will get a check - just smaller nt

[CityHall]

47. CBO? no one knows what that is

[Jazzgirl]

51. Congressional Budget Office.

n/t

[Fenris]

53. Congressional Budget Office.

And I'm not that smart.

[ellie]

48. We are going to protect

Social Security!

[antonialee839]

57. Surplus in the nineties

go Kerry

[ClintonTyree]

What a giggling idiot..................

this CAN'T be sitting well with Americans. Real problems of Americans and this frickin' idiot just smiles like a goofy the MoFo he is!

[Shadow30]

54. Oh christ now the moderator is busting Kerry's balls!

[cjbuchanan]

55. Invitation for disaster

Good Kerry. Put it out there for people to see. Do his plan and the whole thing falls apart.

Go Kerry.

I wonder if "pay as you go" could catch on.

It will be funny to was the repugs try to spin Kerry as a big spender after four years of the credit card president.

[annabanana]

56. Greenspan challenge...SS CAN be fixed, Greenspan notwithstanding

[antonialee839]

59. did i just see

a scowl?

[da_chimperor]

62. I normally like greenspan, but I completely disagree with him on this

Greenspan also said that the huge deficit is our biggest problem. Chimpy doesn't mention that!

[kitkatrose]

65. Greenspin's a bit of a twit....

[kitkatrose]

58. Yes!!!!! Talk about the tax cut and how much it cost us!

[crickets]

60. Good grief

You'd think the previous administration never managed to save Soc Sec and leave it WITH A SURPLUS before * took office. :grr:

[spooky3]

63. JK's doing well with CNNfn when he is specific about fiscal responsib.

[GimmeDANEger]

61. bush stopped smiling

5
4
3
2
1....

[annabanana]

64. the key is GOOD jobs...........yesss

[DemFromMem]

67. Obermann has Kerry up big time

5 rounds for Kerry
2 rounds for Bush
2 are a draw

[displacedtexan]

82. Middle class got a dollar in "tax cuts." Top 1% got %100. Fair?

My ass!

[ocean girl]

68. I still say the chimp is wired

[SemiCharmedQuark]

69. Kerry call him on the "most of the income tax went to ..."!

[spooky3]

71. lying again about who received tax cuts

[kitkatrose]

72. Well, I hear more of the same from you too asshat!!

[kitkatrose]

93. When in doubt, repeat the moderator

:eyes:

[da_chimperor]

73. Ok, shrub is lying through his teeth. 'nuff said n/t

[muchacho]

74. I'm sooo waiting for the knock out....

[Kierkegaard]

Me too. I wish Kerry would land a haymaker and get this overwith.

[cjbuchanan]

90. There have been openings, Kerry is just waiting

I don't know when he is going to let it fly, but I feel it coming.

[cjbuchanan]

75. The Tax Cuts

Oh they have got to smack him down on this one. The most went to the middle class? What the hell is he drinking these days?

[crickets]

LIAR, LIAR!

I can't believe * is still spouting the tax cut lies. GAH!

[Dudley_DUright]

76. Most of the tax cuts went to lower and middle class

Total BS. The top 1% got more than the bottom 80%.

[antonialee839]

86. I hate that laugh

Ug

[da_chimperor]

94. Yes, that that fact disgusts me

money that could be spent on education going to buy new yachts for the ultra-rich.

[sbj405]

78. spur consumption - whatever. my $200 didn't go far.

f*ck you bush

[kitkatrose]

79. If you got a tax cut, you paid it back in higher local and state taxes.

[AntiFascist]

80. The wealthy are investing in foreign stocks....

they're not dumb and they see where the country is headed under Bush.

[welshTerrier2]

81. if you have no job

you have tax relief ... bush didn't seem to want to take credit for that tax cut ...

[ClintonTyree]

83. What a freaking liar!!!!!!!!!!

I hope the Media cuts him to ribbons over these blatant lies tomorrow.

[Rose Siding]

84. Six months after my arrival the stock mkt started to go down

Is THAT what he said

[ReadTomPaine]

85. Bush is just not credible on these issues - people can see otherwise...

... with their own eyes.

[apnu]

87. 9/11 cost us 1 million jobs!!!! WTF Chimp?!?!

[bill]

88. * 80% of tax cuts went to lower and middle class?

Who the fuck does he think he's kidding?

[daa]

89. And the stock market is lower than when he took office nt

[telex54]

95. Holy crap...

* totally knew the format of that immigration question.

[geekgrrl]

96. DUDE give Kerry a chance to rebutt for crying out loud!!