Bush wired again? - New photos from tonight's debate

[Mortos]

It sure looks like the same contraption. Here are three photos I took of Cspan live footage immediately after the debate. Who wants a picture of the white foamy drool?

[Placebo]

1. WHOA, That's Pretty Obvious!

I thought it looked exactly like bush was listening to someone or something. He would smile out of no where and just start writing, it was very obvious.

[mindfulNJ]

2. Aaack!

It's GROWING!!!:scared:

[Beetwasher]

3. Yes, What Is That? There Is Something There, Yet The WH Tells Us There's

Nothing there...

[polmaven]

53. Not to worry!

It is just his angel wings.

[liberalmuse]

4. The guy..

either has the worst tailor on the planet (my off-the-rack clothes don't even come close to this atrocity), or he is wired. I say, 'WIRED'.

[LiberalFighter]

35. Don't his suits cost $1500 or more?

Myth #1: Georges de Paris, who made the suit worn by Mr Bush, said the bulge was accentuated when the president crossed his arms and leaned forward.

Fact: Photos here show dimwit with his arms uncrossed and standing straight up


http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/12/06_Suits.html">Bush's Suits Cost $2,000 to $14,000 Oxxford Clothes

[cthrumatrix]

5. you can tell at times he was searching, jumping and then smooth....

the gaps at some moments were obvious...not a normal speech pattern (at least for a President)

[Clinton Crusader]

6. YIKES!!!!!!!!

:wow: :wow: :wow:

:kick:

[riverwalker]

7. he did lots of furious writing

at odd moments

[Clinton Crusader]

13. YES! He would look up, as if listening...

then write furiously...

??????????????

:kick:

[Clinton Crusader]

Has ANYONE in the GOP said ANYTHING about this????

:kick:

[Libby2]

8. Woah....that's so weird

I also noticed, he never turned his back to the audience.

Kerry did when he shook hands with him.

[demokatgurrl]

71. Kerry patted his back too-

wonder if he felt anything.

[demokatgurrl]

72. Kerry patted his back too-

wonder if he felt anything.

[KittyWampus]

9. When Mod Was Reading DRAFT Question To Kerry

Junior was absolutely listening and reacting to a voice.

Tivo Cspan or split screen and watch while mod asks Kerry the question about Reserves and you will see it.

[iconoclastic cat]

10. Man, how do you cheat and still lose?

That explains a lot about the last 4 years.

[GaryL]

18. I'm glad someone asked that!

I'm been wondering that during every debate

[wtmusic]

11. Like to see some photos of his ears from the side

might be able to catch an earpiece

[Maiden England]

12. forgive the man, it is HUMPDAY after all

[KittyWampus]

14. Did They Put A Towel Over It To Try & Soften Edges?

no question that the thing is still there.

[nostamj]

15. Sherlock Holmes and the Myth of the Perpendicular Pucker

just saying....

[gauguin57]

16. I'm tellin' ya ... this ahole is the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE ...

... PNAC has got his BRAIN wired!

[Cleita]

17. Before putting your tinfoil hats on, look at the obvious.

It could be a hearing aid they don't want you to know about. If you can discount that then look for something more nefarious. I really would like Schroob to be caught with his hand in the cookie jar, but honestly, we don't need a repeat of typewritergate this close to the election.

[Beetwasher]

24. Huh! Are You Crazy? Then They Are LYING ABOUT THE HEARING AID!

Whatever it is, they are telling us THERE IS NOTHING THERE AND THERE IS!!! WTF are you talking about? This is as basic an issue of trust as you can get!

[Cleita]

32. Agree about the trust issue.

I wish I were crazy, I would fit into this world much better I think. Okay, I do believe in going through the process of eliminating all the other possibilities before you settle on a pet theory. After that, then you will have to prove the theory.

[Zee Miller]

61. It's both -- it's an Assistive Listening Device

So, you're not crazy, Cleita, and every time I bring this up people's first gut reaction is that I'm making "excuses" for Bush. Hardly. If he's disabled, we should know.

I saw two different mothers, in two completely different contexts, note that Bush's symptoms reminded them of their children's, who had hearing problems. And last March Stan Crock speculated in Business Weekly that Bush might have this disorder. I looked it up myself and it seems to me that Bush does have a "hearing" problem called (Central) Auditory Processing Disorder. The symptoms are similar to ADD and it's more of a learning disability than "deafness" as we think of it.

CAPD sufferers can't process auditory input in certain situations. They might be fine one on one, or in a controlled situation, but put them in a classroom...or a press conference...or a debate...and they're unable to function. They're unable to distinguish what they should be focusing on in a place where there are extraneous sounds.
They have a hard time distinguishing similar-sounding words, too.

It basically explains many of Bush's problems. Why he had scholastic difficulties throughout his life, why he mispronounces words, why he avoids press conferences, etc.

And one of the devices to help people with CAPD is called an Assistive Listening Device (ADL) and looks just like the prompting devices. A receiver, invisible earpiece, etc. The ADL is able to mask distracting background noises and has directional mics to funnel to the listener what he needs to be paying attention to.

Who's to say it's not multifunctional, anyway? Some of the prompting devices have features that mask background noise, too...so he may be getting more than one kind of help.

Anyone who thinks this EXCUSES Bush only needs to remember that footage of Bush sitting in that classroom, stupefied, when Card whispered to him that the second plane hit the WTC towers. Even if the explanation is CAPD, and in the "chaotic" (for him) atmosphere of a classroom Bush was unable to process auditory input --- well, that's pretty damn disfunctional to accept in a President.

CAPD (or APD) was first described in 1976, so Bush wouldn't have been diagnosed with this growing up. But still, someone obviously knows Bush is disabled and NEEDS this device. And the media HAVE to know it's there. Just like they had to have known of Reagan's dementia.

There's a thread on this with links posted at Dems.com

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139921

[TrogL]

67. I've got CAPD

But he shouldn't need a device in that setting. There's audio monitors in the catwalk above his head giving him the feed from the moderator ( and possibly Kerry). It should be plenty loud.

[Beetwasher]

76. The Only Way To Go Through a Process Of E.imination Is To SEE The Device

Whatever it is, IT'S SOMETHING AND THEY'RE LYING ABOUT IT BEING THERE!!! It's and OUTRAGEOUS Orwellian lie and they are soooo busted in it!

Proof shmoof. There's undeniable proof they are lying through they're teeth. They are telling us NOTHING IS THERE and that's it's a conspiracy theory and a figment of our imagination.

"There are five lights"

[doni_georgia]

26. HEaring aids do not require boxes any more unless you are PROFOUNDLY

deaf. My father-in-law's hearing aid is so small you can't even see it in his ear.

[Cleita]

30. Okay, I have been chastised a couple of times about this.

My father's hearing aid, which is what I am going by, had a little box it was connected to and yes it was thirty years ago. That's all! Could it be with all the electronic equipment around there that they need something a little more packagey? Perhaps an audio expert can settle this. Honestly, I don't want to give Boosh a pass, but I also don't like to speculate on something we haven't eliminated all the other possibilities on.

[LiberalFighter]

46. I have 68 decible loss in one ear and 72 db in the other

I have to use a bone conduction type hearing-aid requiring a body aid. <1.5" x 2.75" box> A cord is connected from the body aid to the bone conductor. The bone conductor is held in place with a head band behind the ear.

I have not seen another person with the type of hearing-aid in over 30 years. In addition, the hearing-aid is difficult to obtain because the manufacturers do not consider it to be a money maker.

When I have it in phone mode I hear the electronic sounds of a car and fork trucks. I also hear flourescent lights. When I place the device near a computer or the monitor I hear an unusual sound.

[KoKo]

55. It may be a hearing aid but he needs to be "fed" the questions because

even with the "aid" he can't hear the moderator or people asking quetions at press conferences because of "background noise." Those lights and camera equipment they have for these "appearances" emit alot of low noise and it's possible that he can't hear clearly above that even with a hearing aid. So, someone reads him what's being said which is why he looks so dorky like he's trying to think in the pauses between questions and when Kerry speaks.

The box is bigger than a regular hearing aid which hold batteries because it needs to have capability to translate sound from another person.

Why doesn't he just admit he's deaf? Weakness? Why does the White House lie and say he isn't "wired" and that it's nothing.

I've seen too many photos and one shot myself on C-Span to not be convinced he has something on his back.

I'm trying to be kind about the hearing aid...maybe it's worse! :shrug:

[aquart]

65. They told us he had a hearing loss 4 years ago.

Haven't heard a word about it since.

But I just found this with a Google:

<http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139646&bookmark=11>

edit: Oh lord, of all places to find the mention I was looking for:

<http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99aupdate.phtml>


Weekend Update with Colin Quinn

.....Colin Quinn
Jerry Seinfeld #1.....Jerry Seinfeld
Jerry Seinfeld #2.....Jimmy Fallon


Announcer: From the news capitol of the world, it's Weekend Update with Colin Quinn.

Colin Quinn: Hi, I'm Colin Quinn, and here are today's top stories.

-snip-

A physical examination of Texas Governor George W. Bush revealed that the presidential hopeful is in excellent health with the minor exception of mild hearing loss. Doctors assured reporters that the hearing loss was to be expected -- You know how people always talk your ear off when you're doing coke with them?

[Zynx]

74. That would explain why he yells so much.

[PartyPooper]

19. Why didn't John Kerry pat Junior on the back during the introduction?

Isn't that what John Edwards said should have been done?

:D

[Fiendish Thingy]

58. Kerry gave Bush a firm pat on the back at the ending handshake n/t

[tuvor]

20. They didn't even TRY to hide it!

Frankly, that worries me. Sympathy-inducing medical-reasons October surprise, anyone?

[GiantCranes]

23. I don't think so

A sick President is not a good thing.

Are these pictures real? If they are, then this is quite bog. IMHO

[dave502d]

21. It his tail,the devil all have one

[Must_B_Free]

22. looks like this size

http://comtek.com/IFBCueing/ifbcueing.html

[ocean girl]

25. He definitely was wired - I remarked on it during the debate

Watch his eyes - they look just like someone who's listening to someone talk to them on the telephone. Kind of staring in a distant way and trying to understand what's being said.

There's no doubt in my mind.

[soothsayer]

43. yep, darting back and forth, and nodding slightly from time to time

Not to what kerry was saying, but somewhere far away.

100% wired.

[Bread and Circus]

44. I saw exactly the same thing, and I remarked to my wife at the time...

he was "divining" the answers out of thin air.

I'm not usually into stuff like this, but I really think he has
been wired all 3 debates and that the device didn't work the first debate but has the last 2.

"It's hard work" "It's hard work" -- that's all gotten straightened out and I think it's due to fixing what was probably a malfunctioning device the first debate.

I hope Salon and NYT saw what I saw tonight. The eyes and the Box on his back when the debate was all over.

I saw it LIVE. I am 100% convinced he's wired and cheating.

[Thrill]

27. Thats absolutely hillarious

Email these photos to Letterman and Leno. Good stuff.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

28. Bush is growing a new head

The old one is rotting off. The new one will come in to replace it in a few months.

[IChing]

29. his upper label

If someone has a tape, why is Kerry's upper lapel (left&right) smooth and smirks looks like two wires or very wrinkled next to each lapel? noticed it watching c-span. The back, once again
shows the device nicely.

[BUSHOUT]

31. Oh krrrryst, those are not doctored. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Come on, he looks like a camel there.

[crispini]

33. BRAVO.

good for you. boy, that's some pretty obvious stuff there.

[Cha]

34. I thought I read he didn't have anything on this

time?! What? Do they think we're blind? bush has something on..now what is it?

[RunningFromCongress]

36. Honestly this is what I think it is...

something similar w/ smaller straps. Used to hold the puppet upright

[Dees]

41. He's not wired... the White House said so.

End of issue. No more iscussion.

[Bread and Circus]

45. B.S. -- that's preposterous and has already been debunked on DU

[amandabeech]

52. Maybe, but why would the White House refuse to admit it

with all the rumors about Bush needing an earpiece? Surely, there would be a way to minimize the importance of the brace, like stating that he uses it sometimes to alleviate occasional pain or muscle weakness resulting from some too vigorous brush clearing.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

37. WTF???

Ok I am officially wondering what the hell that is. I have read all these threads w/some interest but they are having a cumulative affect now. WHAT IS THAT??????

I am not being smarmy here, I really think we deserve to know. This guy's got the NUCLEAR codes. I want to know if he is really sick (why is he postponing his physical????) or if he is wired, or it's a back brace or he is in so much danger he literally can't go out without protection for his right shoulder blade or WHAT.

[RebelYell]

38. Deny deny deny

That has been their M.O. from day 1.

My husband's $200 funeral suit (not his funeral) fits better than that. And he doesn't have a square hump!

Come. on.

[KelleyKramer]

39. Where did those pics come from?

They are cropped.

What is the source of the pics?

[boyblue2005]

40. PhotoShopped?

Hate to say it but those pics look PhotoShopped to me. I wouldn't put it past Bush to use a transmitter but the pics look suspicious.

I did notice toward the end that one of answers was especially garbled and sounded like he was trying to follow a cue.

[soothsayer]

42. I saw that very shot, with that very bulge, live on cspan. It was very

clear, just like in the photos!

[Borgnine]

54. Nope, they're straight from C-Span

I noticed the exact same bulge. They're not doctored.

[Mortos]

73. I freeze framed the original cspan feed and took a photo with

my digital camera. I do not own Photoshop nor would I know how to use it if I did. Again, these are not retouched in any way. I took them directly from the cspan feed which I recorded live using my digital video recorder.

[eridani]

47. First 2 pix look wierd

The 3rd looks more real.

[samplegirl]

48. Regardless

It didnt help him any!

[ILeft]

49. His speech pattern sounded like a UN translator.

The odd pauses tell the story.

[Domitan]

50. I don't know about electronically wired

but he sure was psycho-wired tonight!

[Zen Democrat]

51. When they shook hands at the end, Kerry did a light backslap on Bush

so maybe Kerry can tell us what that "thing" felt like.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

56. New spin:

"Chimp didn't lose the debate, his handler did."

It might work! :think:

[delete_bush]

57. Looks like Kerry's got one too!

I taped the debate, thought I would revisit the scene in question, and can affirm that the pictures posted are real. Interesting thing, though, is when you look at Kerry's back several seconds prior to this, the one where he is leaning forward to give Pickles a hug, the same box shape appears in the same spot on Kerry. Not quite as pronounced, but noticeable.

When he straightens up, it goes away. If you look at Kerry in the 2nd pic you can see it, though not as good as in the Pickles shot.

[aquart]

66. LINK?

As in, prove it.

[delete_bush]

68. As I said, this is on my home video tape.

Don't have the technology to capture it.

[no safe haven]

59. Watch for left hand side shots of * at the podium as well

Watching on CNNI, definitely a protrusion with a sharp upper corner coming out from between his shoulder blades . No wrinkles or bad tailoring excuses this time, Mr Quasimodo.

[kurtyboy]

60. If there's something there, I doubt it's an earpiece. Otherwise

They'd have told him to wipe the spittle off of his F****ng mouth a little sooner!!!

[MirrorAshes]

62. hah! exactly.

[Crunchy Frog]

63. It's just confirmation that Balrogs really do have wings.

(If you've ever been on a Tolkien board, that is a subject of much contention and many flame wars.)

Sorry, it's late and I'm getting a little silly.:silly:

[TheWebHead]

64. I show the bulge too..

My vidcaps show the same thing (off c-span)...



Meanwhile, Kerry's pen in jacket pocket maneuver is clearly identified this time:




And Kerry attempted a bit of a "bulge" check on Bush afterwards:

[Zen Democrat]

69. He cheats and still loses big-time. That's the Bush legacy.

[leftofthedial]

70. it's the artificial spine

and the feeding-controlling Matrix thingy

[Disturbed]

75. Photos of him in Pickup.

It was posted on DU. He had some device in his back there, as well. I think it's a device that send msgs to his ear. Maybe they decided he needs that so the SS can call him ASAP if there is an emergency.