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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:53 AM
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Holy smokes: Bush-Kerry TIED in ARKANSAS
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette Poll (conducted by Zogby International)
Likely Arkansas Voters' Choice for President
October 10-11

Bush 46%
Kerry 45%
Nader 2%

Sampling error: +/-4.5% pts


sorry, no linked, emailed to me by Zogby.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:54 AM
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1. This is a telephone poll?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:55 AM
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3. can't be too sure, but i'd imagine
which means, kerry's probably even higher.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:55 AM
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2. Wow, and tthe Big Dog could still have an impact.
I smell a landslide.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:59 AM
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11. Don't forget Wes Clark
He's from Little Rock too and has been working hard there.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:01 PM
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12. I think Hannity got the General pretty energized last night, too
I don't think Wes is going to be slowing down any time soon, unfortunately for the *ites.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:42 PM
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29. What did Hannity do to Wes last night? n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:55 PM
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32. He was yelling over Clark, saying Kerry was trying to cut defense
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 PM by txindy
That JK had voted against all these systems -- and then he started naming them one by one. When Wes tried to respond, Hannity got louder and LOUDER (because that must have made his point stronger or something :shrug: ) until finally Wes got that edge of steel in his tone and said (paraphrasing), "Dick Cheney was the one who wanted those programs cut." Hannity was screaming at him. Colmes was bemused, smiling the whole time. IMO, he looked rather awed by Clark's determination not to be run over by Hannity.
My impression was that General Clark might be pumped up even more after that happy little encounter. :toast:

Edited to add: I only watched because I spotted Wes while channel-surfing between post-debate coverages.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:00 PM
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33. Thanks for the info.
> Edited to add: I only watched because I spotted
> Wes while channel-surfing between post-debate coverages.

Chuckle. You're forgiven. : )
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:56 AM
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4. wow! Thought AWOL already put arkansas away
KERRY LANDSLIDE
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elepet Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:56 AM
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5. delete
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:06 PM by elepet
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:57 AM
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6. Arkansas should be a Dem state.
They are a farm/agriculture state that has been a victim of corporate type farms.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:57 AM
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7. Ohhhhh
how sweet it would be if the Big Dog could just do a few very low-key events there....nothing hard....nothing stressful, just a little laid-back meetin' with regular folks in Hope and Little Rock and Hot Springs and Fayetville and stuff like that.

But I know, he needs to take it easy.

Sigh.

This election is just getting better and better.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:00 PM
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34. They need to set up some appearances via satellite TV
I think people in Arkansas (and all over) would appreciate the need for Clinton to rest and wouldn't feel slighted over a remote TV appearance. At a rally with other featured speakers, I mean. Not a commercial or anything, but just as a surprise at a regularly-scheduled rally. They'd probably feel honored that he made such a big effort to speak to them. I know I would.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:57 AM
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8. Mmmmm... Wes might can also help tip Arkansas blue if this is the case
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:17 PM
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20. It's been the case for months. Every once in a while there is some
poll that shows a wider margin, but, for the most part, we have been basically tied the whole time.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:58 AM
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9. Even worse for Bush
He's polling at just 46 percent.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:59 AM
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10. We need Clinton to go there!
That would be the nail in the coffin for Arkansas!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 PM
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15. Or at least do some ads from the comfort of
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM
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21. Heard on NPR that Wes Clark, Dale Bumpers, and another person
had agreed to "star" in Kerry ads if a group of Arkansans can come up with the money to run them. I can't find any specifics on who the group is or where to donate. I have heard, though, that the Repubs are trying to stop the group - saying it is illegal.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:25 PM
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25. More info on the ads
Link: http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1004/178330.html

Little Rock (AP) - John Kerry's most prominent supporters in Arkansas are passing the hat to run their own radio ads urging people to vote for the Democratic presidential candidate.

The ads would feature former U.S. Senator Dale Bumpers, retired General and former presidential candidate Wesley Clark and former U.S. Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater.

Three dozen top Democrats want to raise more than $100,000 to produce the ads because money raised for TV ads in Arkansas went to other states instead. Arkansas was supposed to be a part of a $45 million advertising blitz this month, but the national Kerry campaign decided to concentrate its advertising effort elsewhere.
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Sputnik Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:35 PM
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28. Democratic Party of Arkansas
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:38 PM by Sputnik
is raising the money for the radio ads by Clark, Bumpers, and Slater. If money permits, they'll also run newspaper ads.

Personal checks (no corporate checks) should be made payable to the Democratic Party of Arkansas, memo: Victory Fund. Their mailing address is 1300 W. Capitol Ave., 72201. Credit card donations can be made by calling 501-374-2361.

And, yes, this is the official address and phone number for the state dem HQ. It's legit and they are pushing hard to put Kerry over the top in Arknasas. These three men along with Clinton -- HUGE impact.






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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:49 PM
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30. Thanks!!! I haven't had a lot of time to look for the info. Thanks so
much.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:22 PM
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23. OMG, that would be awesome!
Imagine Clinton lying in his hospital bed doing a TV commercial for John Kerry!! Have him say something like "the government gives me this healthcare, and I am greatful. But I want you to have this kind of healthcare, too!"
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:04 PM
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17. I say give Bill another two weeks to recover
And if he's able, a whistlestop or bus tour through the state on the final three days of the campaign. Wes could go with him. But I dont want Clinton pushing it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 PM
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13. WOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Ok, I may spend the entire weekend in Texarkana.

C'mon, Texans, join me!
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 PM
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14. Kerry
should put that state back in the advertising loop. Clinton should do a commercial.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:03 PM
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16. *faints* nt
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:07 PM
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18. I wouldn't put too much stock into this poll. Looks like an outlier
It's a small media poll, which are consistently unreliable or atleast far, far, less reliable than the big professional firms. In the last 3 polls posted on http://www.dalythoughts.com/ar/ar.htm Bush is up by 9, 9, and 7 (from most recent to most long ago) and he's over 50 percent in all 3.

Believe me, Arkansas is not a determining state. If Kerry wins it, it will be a blowout electorally for him.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:12 PM
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19. Read the post
It was conducted by Zogby for that Ark. newspaper. THere is no more reliable pollster. Ive seen a couple more of the last month that show it a two point race. It is in no way an outlier.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:22 PM
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22. As much as I wish it I don't see it happening for Kerry here.
One poster mentions Wes Clark working hard here in Arkansas but I've
seen no evidence of this and I live in heavily Democratic west Little Rock.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:24 PM
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24. Never relax....never concede
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:26 PM
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26. Think about this:
Gore states + New Hampshire + Arkansas = 270EVs. Exactly.

No Ohio.
No Florida.
No Colorado.

For a long time this year, I've called this the back-door entrance to the White House. While everyone is watching the front door (the 3 states above), the back door is being unguarded by a somniferous octagenarian. Kerry needs to hammer Arkansas HARD.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:28 PM
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27. ah, interesting
thanks for that.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:55 PM
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31. Looks good to me...Cut Bill loose in Ark to shore it up
and throw AZ on top of the 270 for a buffer.
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