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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:01 PM
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Bush and McCain having press conference on AirForce 1..now on CNN
talking about how optimistic they are...but you really can't hear them over the plane noise.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 PM
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1. Bush can't articulate his thoughts
Needs McCain and P.R. spinner to make his case. Pathetic!
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:03 PM
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2. McCain made 2 comments
both about Social Security and about how "substance" is the most important thing.

Bush says "thanks everyone..good to see ya...GET A SMILE ON YOUR FACE everyone! only 19 days left!"

post debate spin..that was odd though
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:06 PM
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5. I thought he sais
"get a smile on your face everyone. I GOT 19 days left."

Almost like he realizes he is heading toward a big loss but still has time to turn things around.
It was odd.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:12 PM
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16. The substance comment was obviously a swipe at Bush!
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:29 PM
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26. That's right, smile people, because * has only 19 days left!
Go Kerry!
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:31 PM
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27. I Have a Smile on My Face
That Bush only has 19 days left.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:37 PM
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28. Why is McCain trying to sell SS privatization? It's Wall Street wet dream!
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:41 PM by flpoljunkie
Bush neglected to explain in the last night's debate that his "reforming of Social Security" would involve taking $1 trillion dollars out of the system--let alone where this money would come from. McCain won't tell you that. It is an incredible windfall for Wall Street--Bush's big contributors.

Social Security is solvent until 2053, folks, according to the CBO, Congressional Budget Office.

http://www.cepr.net/Bytes/social_security_2004.htm

The Congressional Budget Office's (CBO) analysis of Social Security shows the program to be considerably stronger than has been indicated in recent reports by the Social Security trustees. The new analysis finds the program will be able to pay full scheduled benefits until 2053 - nearly fifty years into the future - with no changes whatsoever. This means Social Security is far sounder today than it has been through most of its existence. In the past, shortfalls in every decade from the forties to the eighties required frequent tax increases, with the last series of increases ending in 1990.

Shame on John McCain!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:58 PM
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32. It seems this is a very bad move on their part......
a tremendous cash reserve of corporate welfare for the corps, while the DOW is setup for a fall, if not a crash. They've been debating whether it will be a soft or a hard landing.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:04 PM
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McCain being used as a pawn to give Bush some statuture
Bush tells everyone to "get a smile on your face."

Ummm . . . you're losing dude. The people on your plane are not happy about that.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:08 PM
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7. McCain is a Shrub-Whore. I will never have respect for him again.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:11 PM
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14. I AGREE 110%
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:12 PM by GalleryGod
Total ,sellout,Asshole!
Patriot? Sorry,Old Man...you can't even spell it now!
:argh:
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM
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21. him and Guiliani support flushing this nation down the shitter
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM by FlaIndie
so much for being mavericks and free-thinkers. Guiliani just repeats Repug spin that he knows is untrue on all those shows he appears on.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:24 PM
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23. Yes, and that is what is so irritating about it. You know they don't
really believe what they are saying. They both must have attended Flim-Flam School.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:17 PM
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34. ditto...they are both whore's
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:04 PM
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3. Last quote: "Get a smile on your face everybody.....Only 19 days left"
He can say that again.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:05 PM
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4. Why is Bush holding McCain captive with his arm like that?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:07 PM by librechik
McCain looks like a mouse trapped by a cat, trying to win the cat's mercy with flattery.

Disgusting oblivious gall
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:12 PM
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15. Whatta Closet Queen!
IMHO:nopity:
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:20 PM
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35. Maybe McCain is holding BUSH up!
But they are making it look the opposite.

I betcha.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:08 PM
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6. McCain
He siad bush had 40,000 people at a rally at some stadium and proclaimed "We have never seen anything like that in Arizona."
He also said the enthusiasm was amazing.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:09 PM
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10. The CNN correspondent said the press conference on the plane
from Bush and McCain shows how desperate Bush is at this point.

LOL!

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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:16 PM
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18. Is that right?
Who was the CNN correspondent? John King?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:19 PM
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19. No. Blonde woman, med. straight hair, kind of horsey faced-sorry but true
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:20 PM by Lex
I don't know her name.

She said Bush seldom ever comes to the back of the plane to talk to the press like that, much less with McCain in tow.

She thought it showed how he was trying to show how he was 'upbeat' which says a lot about how they think his performance went last night.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM
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20. Dana Bash?
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM
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22. OK, I know who you are talking about.
But she did not really use the word desperation, I think, more your interpretation, right?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:11 PM
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33. I don't think that's what she said
...I read it differently. She was so excited about the president FAVORING the press by coming to the back of the plane that she was nearly orgasmic. I was quite angered by her comments, as they substantiated the WH illusion that Bush is a rock star.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:11 PM
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11. If it was "40,000"!...then there were
40,000 idiots all in one place in Arizona..big deal.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:14 PM
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17. So were Albert Speer's Nuremberg Rallys, John Boy
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 12:15 PM by GalleryGod
Mr. "Straight Talk Express" takes another verbal dump for Bush
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:09 PM
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8. bush has probably promised to support McCain in 2008 in exchange for ....
McCain's support in this election.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:09 PM
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9. McCain is a douche bag and a coward
After what Bush did to him in 2000, and with him supporting him again, it tells me the Viet Cong beat every last ounce of courage out of his body.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:11 PM
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13. He sold his soul
to the devil for one last shot at the presidency in 2008.
I lost all respect for him.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:11 PM
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12. HEADLINE: Bush camp so glum - they must be told to smile!!!

Too bad we didn't get a pic of the weeping staff sitting on the plane. They know which way this thing is swinging.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:25 PM
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24. if * does have big health problems, they may run McCain...then what?
Why isn't anyone demanding that bush take a physical?
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:27 PM
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25. They can't 'run' McCain or anyone else now. People in many
states have already voted.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:47 PM
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29. But how about THIS scenario?
Okay, I'm not usually into tinfoil hats, but I'll toss out this speculation:

If by some means of voter corruption Bush manages to steal the election (and stealing it is the only way he can win!), he WILL soon after step aside for health reasons, leaving Darth Cheney in charge, who will in turn appoint McCain as Veep.

Think it can't happen? The Repukes know Cheney isn't exactly Mr Personality and couldn't win an election, even though he's the real NeoCon in charge. So they postpone Bush's physical just long enough to push their puppet boy through the election then make the switch, setting the stage for 2008.

Scary thought... but I wouldn't put it past them!

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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:52 PM
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30. A few months ago, that scenario would have scared me,
but McCain has lost his support on both sides. The repukes distrust him for his feeble defenses of Kerry's character and the Democrats think he has no honor left. If a McCain poll was run today, I don't think we would get nearly the numbers that he got when he was the golden boy.

The "McCain Democrats" aren't there anymore. The only reason Kerry brings up McCain is to appeal to moderate repukes.

McCain has effectively shot himself in the footsie.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 PM
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31. In this scenario McCain doesn't need numbers
He would be appointed VP by Cheney in return for his support of the B/C ticket. In a Cheney administration the VP job would be mere window dressing and though McCain may think otherwise, it's one sure way for the Repukes to keep him on leash. Perhaps even tempt McCain with the foolish notion that this step might open the door for him to run on the 2008 ticket with Jeb or Guiliani.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:21 PM
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36. Why is McCain campaigning with Bush?
And why isn't he doing his job for the great state of Arizona?
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