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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:46 PM
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Kerry Lesbian Remark Angers Cheney
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 01:58 PM by Pirate Smile
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=10&u=/ap/20041014/ap_on_el_pr/debate_lynne_cheney

FORT MYERS, Fla. - Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) called himself a "pretty angry father" Thursday as he denounced Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) for mentioning his gay daughter during a debate with President Bush (news - web sites).

Cheney and his wife, Lynne, have two daughters. Mary Cheney is openly gay and an official in the Bush-Cheney campaign. The vice president has spoken at length about his daughter's sexuality and his view of gay relationships, even disagreeing with the president about the need for a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriages.

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Cheney told supporters at a rally in Fort Myers, "You saw a man who will do and say anything to get elected, and I am not just speaking as a father here, although I am a pretty angry father."

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Elizabeth Edwards, the wife of vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites), said of Lynne Cheney in an interview Thursday with ABC Radio: "She's overreacted to this and treated it as if it's shameful to have this discussion. I think that's a very sad state of affairs. ... I think that it indicates a certain degree of shame with respect to her daughter's sexual preferences. ... It makes me really sad that that's Lynne's response."


I just saw this posted:

Las Vegas, NV – Senator John Kerry released the following statement today:

“I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue.”



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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:48 PM
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1. Angry about what?
Impending defeat?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:06 PM
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19. Cheney is speaking as a father, "a pretty angry father"...
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 02:08 PM by skypilot
...and Lynne is speaking as a mom, a "pretty indignant mom". You think they got their "reactions" down pat? I'm "pretty convinced" they're both full of shit.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:49 PM
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2. Bullshit!!!
Where was this little hissy fit when John Edwards mentioned Cheney's lesbian daughter during the VP debate? Keep grasping assholes.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:19 PM
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23. Where was Cheney's anger when Cheney mentioned his Lesbian Daughter
in Iowa?

They are so angry that John Kerry dared to speak of Mary w understanding and compassion.
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:49 PM
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3. hypocrite revving up the base
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:49 PM
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4. "You saw a man who will do and say anything to get elected, "
Whatever Dick. Do you recall saying that if we make the "wrong choice" that we'll get attacked again? Any basis for that or are you just "saying anything" to scare the shit out of us?

Go fuck yourself, Dick.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:51 PM
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7. hahahaha!
how "angry" was he during the rnc when he DID NOT have her on stage with him and the rest of his family!
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:52 PM
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8. He must be talking about his running mate.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:53 PM
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10. "How DARE that man say my daughter is a child of God!!!"
"How DARE he say she is as God made her!! How DARE he say she's being herself!! Not a good man! Not a good man!!!"
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:50 PM
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5. Hey DICK !
BLOW ME!
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:00 PM
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17. Your dick can't blow YOU, silly.
:)
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:51 PM
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6. Elizabeth nails it! Cheney, repugs uncomfortable with Mary's homosexual
ity and hate us for being OK with it. Because our being OK with it exposes their hypocrisy, exposes their hatred for gays and makes us better than they are.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:10 PM
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21. home run!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:52 PM
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9. If he is so angry then why did he himself use Mary as a tool?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 01:54 PM by Marianne
and why did he try to hide her during the RNC by avoiding her presence on the stage? Why did he say what he did to Edwards?

No, poor Mary Cheney, has become the albatross around the neck of her father and he knows it. He can object all he likes--he will never overcome the fact that the Bush administration tried to alter the constitution to take away her rights as a human being and a citizen of this country.

That is HIS fault, not hers.

Elizabeth Edwards is right. Mary has NOT been accepted within her own family if they are so ashamed that they object when someone like Kerry, simply speaks about her as a human being entitled to her rights under the Constitution of the United States.

This attack by Mrs. Cheney, who thinks she runs things in the White House, but is merely a little snit of a bitch without any power to speak of,and who is so full of herself as to be an obnoxious wannabee, will not be any sort of a smear against Kerry that can stick. Kerry showed he respected all citizens when he made his comment
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:57 PM
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15. yup...they've been pimping her to "soften" their image
trying to do it quietly so as not to rile up the fundy base. Now they squeal. ROFL!
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:53 PM
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11. But it's ok with Dick for Keyes to attack Mary
hypocrites
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:54 PM
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12. The headline should've read "Hypocrite Grasps at Straws".
Do they really hope the electorate doesn't recall the VP debate when cheney thanked Edwards for his "kind words"?

Class, give me an example of desperation.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:54 PM
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13. Pretty Fair Article
I like how it calls Cheney out on his BS.

DTH
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:59 PM
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16. I just saw this statement from Kerry and edited the top post to show it.
Las Vegas, NV – Senator John Kerry released the following statement today:

“I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue.”


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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:08 PM
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20. Good Statement by Kerry
I like it!

DTH
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:55 PM
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14. "You saw a man who will do and say anything to get elected"
i would laugh st this statement by Cheney if it was not so very sad!
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:03 PM
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18. I would be a pretty angry daughter if my father chose politics
over me. He says he is against an ammendment but supports the pResident's decision. Now that is something to be angry about!

Aaargghh :mad:

go cheney yourself dick!
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:11 PM
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22. Hey Dick, I got your anger over here.
Everyday the fundies and the repuglican party work to deny gay Americans equal opportunity. Every day somewhere, one of them tells us that being gay is sinful, hedonistic, and immoral. Every day in Congress, some repuglican tries to get some hateful legislation to make gay Americans second class citizens passed. Every day Mary Cheney has to put up with the indignity of not being wanted or accepted by the party her father has made a life long commitment with.

WHERE is the outrage for that? Who stood up last night for Dick Cheney's daughter when the repuglican party puts her down? I ask again, WHERE is your outrage over your own party's disgusting behavior Dick? Who do you love more - your daughter or your political party?

John Kerry said that Mary Cheney was one of God's children who happened to be a lesbian. Plain and simple.

So for anyone who has questions about whether it was right or wrong to mention Mary, go ask a gay or lesbian person what they think about how the repuglican party has done to them. Then ask yourself what you need to do to make sure John Kerry gets elected in November.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:22 PM
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24. CHeney was all for it in 2000!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/conv/037.htm

This is the stupidist thing to focus on for the fucking debates. I guess they can't stand that Bush's ass got kicked three times... so they have to make SHIT up!
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:26 PM
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25. Cheney is angry...
...at his daughter, but is projecting his anger onto Kerry to win the election.

Cheney is also angry at himself, because he was the one who involved his daughter in the first place. So, now he's TWICE as mad at Kerry.

How dare Kerry talk about how the candidates all love their children? Kerry responded wonderfully and simply.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:37 PM
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26. It'a a fucking smokescreen...keep ANYTHING but Bush's domestic record
and Bush's lies and not answering the questions at last night's debate from being talked about.

Why in the fuck are you people discussing a NON-ISSUE? You sound like Fox news!!!
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