How predictable -- CNN is running with the Mary Cheney story

[dolstein]

Following the GOP talking points to a "t", CNN's Inside Politics has declared Kerry's name dropping of Mary Cheney to be THE flashpoint of the debate. Far more important, it appears, than anything the candidates said about the minimum wage, jobs, health care, etc.

Am I the only one who thinks that Inside Politics should be preceded by a soundbyte of Bush saying "I'm George Bush, and I approve this message"?

[cheezus]

1. i don't think I ever said that... it's an ex-ag-er-ation

that should be the biggest thing

[enki23]

5. that's what the mary cheney bullshit is for

to hide the bin laden remark. that, and try to get at the "uncomfortable with gays in their *own* family" moderates among the swing voters. plenty of those to go around. if they can spin it as an attack on their "family," which is what they're furiously working at, they feel they can gain quite a lot of ground. they still get to have it both ways. to many of the moderates, they are "protecting" their gay daughter. to the fundie nutcase republican base, they are outraged that kerry would take such a horrible cheap shot at them. after all, it's not *their* fault their daughter has chosen a disgusting, selfish, hedonistic lifestyle.

that this "attack" is simply acknowledging the sexual orientation of someone who is open about it is not particularly relevent to their target audience. this is about sound bites, not actual ethics.

[meegbear]

2. The Osama thing is so bourgeois ....

This is much more important.

[IIgnoreNobody]

3. If CNN wants to keep reminding the fundies of this, great!

Think about it. The more focus on this issue, the more fundies who will be reminded that a vote for Bush/Cheney is a vote for lesbianism, and maybe stay home. Or some other illogical fundie homophobic viewpoint. But I just don't see how it hurts Kerry.

[Irishladdie]

7. Agreed, it won't hurt Kerry.

Unfortunately Gay's and Lesbians are not cared about in this society. I hate Bush!

[tridim]

4. Has anyone asked Mary Cheney what she thinks about it?

Kerry's comment was a compliment on her sexual orientation.

[Cha]

10. And this is from Kerry himself...

today in Las Vegas..what he was saying..

“I love my daughters. They love their daughter. I was trying to say something positive about the way strong families deal with this issue.”



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1070652

[Zinfandel]

6. How about Bush never answering the question about minimum wage

completely ignoring it...this republican pig Bush does give one fuck about workers or the poor.

[Kikosexy2]

Desperation..

time again by Bushco. Making a big deal over nothing. I suggest gay people all over the world speak up and put in your 2 cents about Kerry's remarks. I as a gay man say that Kerry said nothing crass nor disrepectful towards Mary or the Cheney family. Remember, Mary is in the public spotlight as are Jenna and Babs Bush and Kerry's and Edwards' children as well, so they're fair game to the media and the public--good or bad. If anyone politicized gay marriages or relationships is Bush and his right-winged nutcases.

[Placebo]

8. Well The republicans Can't Talk About How GREAT Their BOY Did...

in the debates, so they have to deflect attention from the issues and his performance somehow.

[Roland99]

9. No media blitz of Bush...oh...LYING???

[michigandem2]

17. more time wasted on this the better..

we have less than 3 weeks and if they want to spend their time talking about how Kerry was responding KINDLY about Mary..then fine...waste of TIME...its rediculous...

[fugop]

11. They've made it news

Clearly, CNN has to cover it because the right has been releasing shitty statements left and right. On the other hand, I loved that CNN showed the Log Cabin Republicans upbraiding Bush and Cheney for using homosexuality as a wedge issue to divide the voters. I think that could have more impact than the garbage they're spewing about Kerry, who, face it, said a POSITIVE thing about Cheney's daughter - unless, of course, one considers mentioning that a person is gay to be shameful, as poor Mary's mother obviously does.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

12. The Dems need to get out and use Andrew Sullivan's statement

They need to ask what kind of family value is it when the VP's party attempts to limit the VP's family's civil rights..they need to make this a famil issue...millions of families across America have a gay family member

[seabeyond]

13. flip this to dems. we have the moral high road

not an attack if you love and embrace and accept gay. only an attack to those that feel shame torwards gay, hence the outcry from dems on religious rights postion on gays, ergo our fight for gay rights

[archineas]

14. email

i just emailed cnn and expressed to them how this indignation should have been present from the day shrubbie brought up the anti-marriage amendment.

until they assail alan keyes publicly, it's just a publicity stunt...and i think it'll be forgotten in a week.

j

[Texas_Dem]

16. I am with you. I emailed them as well about the fake outrage.

[Democat]

15. Kerry needs to take control of this issue and turn it against Bush!

This is one of those times when we need to take their fake "outrage" and turn the issue back against them.

This is the reason Kerry has "strategists" and they had better earn their money by finding a way to turn this whole thing back against Bush right away!

[MADem]

19. AND WE NEED TO HELP HIM

Every time you hear BS on TV, get on your computer and fire off a short, concise email. If you are foolish enough to be watching FAUX news, you can make it pithy as well.

The media is just like a politician--they PANDER to their base. If you don't voice your complaints, they will keep spouting the same old conventional stupidity. Challenge them--if enough of us do it, they WILL adjust their coverage.

Don't rely on the Kerry strategists alone--they are obviously carrying water for their candidate. The lame stream media needs to hear from WE THE PEOPLE. Every damn one of us!

[DarthDem]

18. Hehehe

Oh, their internal polls must show * sinking like a stone.

This will be dead by tomorrow, perhaps Saturday. Then people will remember that they don't have jobs and that everything costs too much - - if they're even listening to this garbage in the first place.

[Contrary1]

20. Here's a post from a political forum that wraps it all up neatly...

"Let's see . . . Alan Keyes specifically calls Mary Cheney a "sinful, selfish hedonist" for being a lesbian, and Lynn Cheney is silent.

Dick Cheney brings up his own daughter's name, but says despite his supposed personal thoughts, he will still support the President's call for a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage. Lynn Cheney remains silent.

John Kerry says Mary Cheney is one of God's children, and should be free to be who she is, with visitation/benefits/inheritance rights just like anyone else, and Lynn Cheney is horribly offended.

Yes, Lynn, I think we're starting to get a pretty good picture of your opinion, after all."

http://www.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80728

[Gaffey Duck]

21. What a waste of fucking time...

This shit's okay on: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/14/13749/196

And they're wasting time defending Mrs. Cheney's hypocrisy?

I think the title of Metallica's first album provides some excellent advice in dealing with media whores.