Was Kerry's comment about Mary Cheney a political ploy or sincere comment

[cjbuchanan]

Go take the poll over at: http://www.kdka.com/

Currently it is
37% Political Ploy
63% Sincere Comment

Go voice your opinion.

Edit: Fix name in subject line.

[BUSHOUT]

1. done kick n/t

[TwilightZone]

2. I assume you mean Mary.

n/t

[cjbuchanan]

6. Yes, I have fixed it

Thanks for pointing that out.

[TwilightZone]

9. No problem. Considering that she is the *real* problem, it's easy to do.

Edit: fixed typo.

[sisenor]

3. POLITICAL PLOY WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!

THE GAY STORY IS WHAT Reps ARE WANTING TO MONOPOLIZE the media with, so that less time will be spent on Bush's total fuck-up saying that he didn't think much about OSAMA anymore. All day long we heard about this fucking lesbian comment, and what lost out was coverage on Bush's TOTAL FLIP-FLOP ON HIS "STRONGEST" ISSUE: TERRORISM.

Lynn Cheney going hysterical was a smoke screen, but the media got the woolly pulled over their eyes yet again.

[cjbuchanan]

7. I think the poll is asking about Kerry's motives

It is worded odd, but I think the question is asking why Kerry did it.

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[Book Lover]

13. I do agree

that this is what got the airplay today, but that is more a function of the control the other side has over the media. Our side did not do a good enough job making the day be all about Bush's stream of bullshit at last night's debate.

[Cerridwen]

4. Done.

[AmerDem]

5. done

[arcos]

8. I think it was both, and it was brilliant n/t

[PATRICK]

11. A ploy to inject some sanity

into the wedge issue taking a cue from Cheney himself. Malicious and cunning? I doubt that. It is the other side willing to trash Cheney's daughter if it means keeping the wedge alive in the smoke and fury.

I think most of us were surprised(we continually are) by the utter disconnect the RW has top to bottom from realities that even they reveal then ignore. Cheney made an open break on the hardline policy, scoring points off his compassion(was THAT cunning?). The press handled it to the exact degree of low key and brief coverage as they usually do upon cue. THAT was the problem. It never had time to sink in before the selective recollection dumping took over in the minds of the party faithful. They refashion and forget any blip or unpleasantry to keep their purity and enthusiasm intact, secretly enjoying their control over reality.

Well, you can't keep humoring the insane forever. Any sane person would have thought this was compassionate ground broken very well and publicly by Cheney. That they kept it out of the bully noise machine is supposed to mean it never happened?

I don't think Kerry intended to provoke another round of obscene hypocrisy. They did that all by themselves rather than take the olive branch and give up one tiny red flag hate tactic. If that is all it takes, keep trapping them in their own words until the sane get together and take the country back.

The most consistent people of course are the consistently disgraceful carrior birds of the Bush media.

[johnnyrocket]

10. It's a politcal ploy by the Cheneys! SHAME ON THEM!!

The CHENEY'S are playing this up, drumming up the 'controversy'...disgusting. So what is it Dick and Lynne? ARE YOU ASHAMED OF YOUR DAUGHTER!?

[keopeli]

12. But was Kerry really being genuine?

The answer is yes. It was a shrewd political move, and very farsighted.

Politically, Kerry decided to cut his loses.

Remember, in politics (that is, politics when you have people running who know about politics and managing a message, etc) nothing is ever an accident.

Kerry decided that alienating middle to right conservatives at this point was the right thing to do. It's a strategy. Bring up this divisive issue that Bush* launched initially as his own agenda (the Amendment), because Bush* is very weak on this topic in terms of polls.

The gamble is on the swing voters. Kerry must be betting that those voters will not consider this issue on election day, and I believe he's correct; the stakes today are much larger.

In a previous campaign, this would have been a bad move, but the country has changed. As a gay man, I assure you it has. The issue has now become comfortable for discussion in the majority of homes (i.e. Will & Grace).

Still, it's a shock to hear the hopeful President Kerry use the topic so casually. I personally love the shock. It will numb the senses the next time he wants to talk about the topic. People might actually listen instead of reacting. But, I expect this story to have legs with Republicans.

In 1993, Clinton was compelled to bring up the topic of gays in the military by the Republicans almost immediately after he was in office, simply because the topic was so unpopular. This worked in sinking his popularity, and prevented the passage of health care reform by just one or two votes in the House.

In 2004, Kerry is using a proactive approach to the topic to innoculate his listeners...and his adversaries.

That being said, this was definitely political strategy, but that doesn't mean it's not genuine. Having heard the words of his wife, I believe he is being genuine. She said that America will accept homosexuals openly in about 50 years.

Believe it and anything can happen!

[TheWebHead]

14. it could have been a "sincere ploy"

to open the right into talking about their intolerance of the gay community and their issues. Let's face it, republicans confronting homosexuality in an election could have positive ramifications if it leads to more acceptability.

[bigwillq]

15. Done

KDKA
Poll Results
Lynne Cheney is upset that Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry invoked her daughter's homosexuality in the debate, calling it a "cheap and tawdry political trick." Do you think it was a political ploy or sincere comment? Story
Political ploy 36.25%
Sincere comment 63.75%
3068 votes counted.

[Harlan James]

16. The more the GOP reminds people about Mary Cheney

...the more uncomfortable their fundamentalist base is going to become.