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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:08 PM
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Right wing confidence...I see it everywhere. I can't tell if it is a
strategy to show or pretend that they are upbeat about the performance of their resident-candidate and his supporters OR if they know that they are going to be successful in pulling off another theft.

The stories coming out of Florida, Nevada, Ohio are horrible and there is no mainstream press coverage.

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:11 PM
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1. It's bluster.
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dietdpfan Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:13 PM
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2. They are delusional.
They firmly believe they will win. Suckers that they are. :eyes:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:21 PM
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4. I just spent some time at the FREEP Palace
Talk about delusional! These people are deeply in denial...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:20 PM
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3. Blind faith.
And denial. Denial is a defense mechanism. They have to use denial as a buffer re: Bush's performances - otherwise, they would have all been suicidal after debate #1.
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:22 PM
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5. I don't see that at all....
I see them becoming nastier with each passing day as they realize they are losing....typical fear...I can smell it on them.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:40 PM
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10. what's to fear?
our side are wussies, too fukken nice. it took the north years to get moving against confeds in the civil war, after endless mistakes etc before Lincoln found thugs like Sheridan and US Grant to end it quick: it took allies years to get it together before guys like montgomery, zhukov, eisenhower and mccarthur etc beat the hell outta the fascists in ww2 (alas to no avail as the south and hitler finally won respective wars on dec 12/00!)
ot> Notice on CBC news they wanted to check out US election anger so they went to Flint michigan home of M Moore to find REPUBLICANS (brave enough to stand up to kerry/edward supporters)!! I damn near smashed the idiotbox! why not go to arizona or texas and find a democratic party supporter? that's real courage.....sheeeese!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:36 PM
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6. When you know that
you are absolutely sno-brite, and God talks to you personally and approves everything you do, how can you lose? Yep, delusional.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:37 PM
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7. Good. I hope their false sense of security leads them to stay home 11/2.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:37 PM
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8. It is ignorance and arrogance - same as Shrub
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:40 PM
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9. It's all part of the fantasy world they live in
they really believe that the "war on terror" means killing babies in Iraq, and that somehow the Iraqs hid their WMD's and will some day be found, and that George Bush is a "man of God" etc. etc. etc.

In short, they're all stark raving mad.
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:45 PM
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11. My Freeper friend
One of my best friends is a Freeper. We both send each other email all day long trying to convince the other of the error of our respective ways. A former liberal who freaked out after 9/11 and now claims to be a social liberal/security hawk.

Anyway, whenever Kerry does really well, he usually gets very quiet. I know he's nervous now because the emails have slowed to a crawl since yesterday. The best he could do was send me one site with a graph showing Bush getting a better live response during the debate. The silence is deafening. He's been really cocky all campaign season sending me every annoying swift boat story and ridiculous Drudge piece of trash. I can tell you he is NOT confident. I almost felt bad sending him all the instant polls showing Kerry the winner from last night...
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:53 PM
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12. Denial? You want to hear about some denial?
MY Freeper buddy sent me an email yesterday asking me "Where do you see ignorant bigotry in the Republican party? I would love to see even one example of it."

It's such a target-rich environment, I'm having trouble getting my reply out of draft mode.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:04 AM
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21. I have one of them, too...
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 12:05 AM by Ariana Celeste
I say this war is based on lies.... babies and children are killed and tortured for reasons that have been 100% proved lies...

From her- "That always happens when there's a war." Like that justifies the 1000's of dead innocent civilians...

Always going off about what a flip flopper Kerry is... I give her articles on Bush's REAL flip flops... and she can't talk anymore. "I'm just done with politics for the day.."

GAH! She tell me "Kerry isn't clear on the issues, I have no idea where he stands."
I email transcripts of speeches and a link to his website, and it's "Well I just couldn't stomache any of that, so I quit reading and didn't bother going to his site."

However, my partners mother, who was a HUGE Bush fan... actually listened to me! And now she leans more and more our way everyday! So at least I nabbed one of them, LOL!

:bounce:

(edited to rephrase first sentence)
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Still_Notafraid Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:47 AM
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26. How
about our deceased friend Strum Thurmond and all his comments the guy was in office what 50 years!!and was a total psychopath,if a guy like him can be in office so long then there is a huge problem in this country and its not just Republican politicians.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:19 PM
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13. But - are we delusional in believing that they won't pull a Jeb-
Katherine. Cousin Bush, Ailes, propaganda network, ES&S, Diebold type thefts in as many states as possible?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:05 AM
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30. they WILL, which is why we have to DELUGE the election...GOTV!
a massive electoral tsunami will drown out even their orchestrated attempts at cheating.
Their strategy depends on the election being close, like 2000. If its not close, even the voter fraud will be irrelevant.

IMHO
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:22 PM
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14. To admit any weakness is to not be a man for them.
Why do you think Bush never admits he is wrong?
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:48 PM
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17. To be a man
Interesting choice of words. I really got to my Freeper friend recently when I accused Repugs of being cowards. Their entire view of the world is based on being paralyzed by fear while Democrats are able to view a world where we can walk and chew gum at the same time - we can get on with our lives AND fight the war on terror. The Democratic Party is the party of the brave.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:25 PM
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15. No mainstream press coverage?
Where have you been? :shrug:
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:28 PM
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16. What are you talking about when you say "horrible stories"?
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:59 PM
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20. Maybe he's talking about the GOP funded organization
that was shredding Democratic voter registrations out west ... or Ken Blackwell trying every possible legal shenanigan in Ohio to disenfranchise new registrants (probably mostly Democrats), people who usually are allowed to vote with provisional ballots because they haven't updated their registrations (usually poor people, and probably minorities), and other such lovely vote-suppression techniques.

Blackwell has lost every attempt to do this -- someone just posted a Toledo Blade article in LBN that says a judge struck down their attempt to use some minor clause in an old law that would have enabled Blackwell to order local boards of election to refuse to hand out or to discard any provisional ballots. I was more concerned with the implications of that one than it producing any actual results -- the reason the judge struck the case down was because it was clearly focused on people who move around a lot, usually poor people and many of them inner-city minorities. So at least there's that -- they have to accept all the registrations, they have to allow people to at least vote on the national and statewide issues even if they show up at the wrong polling place.

But the stories themselves reflect an ugly propensity by the Ohio GOP to win at any costs. Registration ended in Ohio on October 3, so no more fun with discarding Democratic registrations or keeping poor people from registering, but they still have to get to the polls and cast their votes. Anybody want to bet it'll be 'Florida 2K Redux,' with roadblocks, police SWAT teams and Republicans at the doors of the polling places asking for everything but black and Hispanic people's birth certificates? I warn you, it's a sucker bet.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:52 PM
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18. Don't hold your breath waiting for 'the movement' to admit anything bad...
... 'cause it's just not going to happen. Movement Conservatives spend their time creating and reinforcing their own truths.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:57 PM
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19. There is no doubt they are using E-Voting theft...
as their ace in the hole. I think what they're worried most about now is the higher percentage Kerry is going to crush shrub with. They're not going to be able to steal too large a number of votes without setting off alarms.
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:11 AM
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22. Good news: Nebraska is not Republican
I live in Nebraska,

so far we've had Republican Congressman Doug Bereuter mail his entire constituency that the war in Iraq is a mistake and Republican Senator Chuck Hagel come out and say the war is being run irresponsibly. My next door neighbor, a registered republican is voting for Kerry. My parents, staunch conservatives are voting for Kerry. The young lady, I'm dating is a registered republican, is voting for Kerry. In my neighborhood, Kerry/Edwards yard signs outnumber Bush/Chenny signs about 10:1. People are seeing that the republican party has been hijacked by the neo-cons and special interest groups and this president is trying to cover for them.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:18 AM
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23. That is good news. I live in Georgia and I don't see

as much support for Bush* this year. I know some people who will likely vote for him but I don't see bumper stickers or signs in yards. His supporters are ashamed, perhaps.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:50 AM
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27. Welcome to DU fellow husker.
I am seeing the same thing you describe. I'm not getting my hopes up but I am convinced a change is taking place in Nebraska. We've always been a populist state and Kerry isn't looking that bad to many of the repubs I know as well. The real question is how KE is playing out in the Sandhill areas.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 08:47 AM
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28. Hi pdurod1!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:24 AM
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24. it's both certainty and fear
"Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith but in doubt. It is when we are unsure that we are doubly sure."

-Reinhold Niebuhr
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:37 AM
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25. I don't know which freepers you're talking about
but the ones in my office RAN out of my office when I started saying "Kerry by a landslide!", "Kerry be a landslide!". Either I scared em or they're just scared that it's true. Either way, who cares?

Gyre
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:10 AM
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29. I liken them to Red Sox and Cubs fans. Outwardly they exude
confidence but inside they know that they are doomed to failure for eternity.
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