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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:28 PM
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Speculate: What will happen to kerry's poll #s after Sinclair..
shows their tawdry little political trick?

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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:29 PM
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1. They'll go up...
...because America has proven with their reactions to the debates that they're smart enough to see through RW lies.
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:30 PM
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2. absolutely nothing.
they have already been heard and rebutted. No one is going to listen to them now. The Swiftees are history.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:33 PM
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7. We will push the story to the main stream press and it will BACKFIRE
on them. We are and will be poised to refute the lies, With LTTE and call in spots and the Lies will be exposed. Even the Sheepel are being embarrassed by the lies.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:35 PM
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9. I agree.
People have heard this before, and I really don't think anyone cares any more. Most people know it is bullshit, except for some of the republicans who want to believe it so they can use it to attack Kerry. I think people are going to be much more concerned about the real issues of today in these next few weeks, and not what ever happened decades ago with the Vietnam war.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:31 PM
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3. Spread the word that it's media manipulation
and they'll go up
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StickNCA Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:31 PM
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4. If we all hit the polls after the showing like the debates
we can swing them to 80/20 or better!

That'll show them how useless it is to try and trash a hero like JFK!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:32 PM
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5. I doubt there will be any change.
It's not broadcast here in Ga. We're lucky, we don't have any Sinclair affiliates here. But if it was aired, the only ones who will watch it are the shrub supporters anyway. They already hate Kerry, so what's the point here? Preaching to the choir I think. There won't be any change in the poll #'s, and that'll be the news the next day.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:32 PM
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6. Does anybody still care about Vietnam?
Because we went through all of this in the month of August.

I got the form response from my local Sinclair affiliate today regarding what they call a "special news event" about "POWs" and I'm angry!
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:34 PM
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8. I think the other networks will cry foul
to some extent. This will help diminish the effects.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:35 PM
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10. I'm hoping it will be like what happened after..
the LA Times ran an article about the gropenator just before the election. There was a backlash because it was seen as an attempt to influence the election.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:36 PM
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11. Several stations are airing it on a Saturday evening.
No one watches TV then, except freepers who get their jollies from listening to smears on a real-life war hero.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:38 PM
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12. Nothing - may even be a backlash
n/m
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:42 PM
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13. Just note that ...
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 10:43 PM by MatrixEscape
Bush and his Rover are famous for that kind of strategy and that, had he waged more honorable campaigns in the past, he would have had a very hard time getting elected for any Office.

The big problem for Bush is that his magic Humpty-Dumpty has fallen off the wall now. Kerry has been honorable, firm, consistent, resourceful, witty, visionary, as well as issue and solution-oriented. The only negative he has had to resort to where based on Mr. Bush's own record and failures, i.e., facts about performance.

This is a National thing, not local or State. The reliance on attack has turned on the attacker and people also have a "gut" response, as Bush says about himself. That response is kicking in.

More slurs and smears from the Bush Campaign, or its agents, are going to run up against an "I'm rubber, your glue" type of effect now.

Keeping in mind that Bush didn't actually "win" the last election, he is not coming from a favorable position in any way, shape, or form ... just terror and defamation of his opponent's character.

I will be looking forward to Dubya's concession speech! He certainly earned it. It may be the only thing he ever did truly earn. Must record.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:46 PM
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14. There is never a backlash...but the bigger problem, as we've seen...
is the media coverage following the broadcast of the documentary. When the Swiftvets ran their ads, they were limited to small ad buys in 3 states. But then the ads got 3 weeks of free media coverage, that was only ended by the GOP convention coverage.

We can't let that happen again. I'm sure that the Kerry campaign has already seen the documentary and they are considering their options.

Meanwhile, Sinclair is losing money...I heard their investors lost $25 million in the first two days...so keep it up.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:51 PM
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15. Smears Don't Work In The Last 2 Weeks Of A Campaign
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:01 PM
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18. That's debatable
Many believe that the release of Bush's drunk driving record did have an impact.

Of course, I wouldn't call that a smear necessarily. It was just a matter of revealing a fact in history that was very unflattering of Bush and that he didn't want revealed.

Either way, I think it's safe to say that negative ads work....though I do agree that there is very little to be said about Kerry's war record that hasn't been said already. The right can't smear Kerry anymore than they have already. He's been accused by the right wing nut jobs of pretty much everything at this point - from war crimes, to self inflicted wounds, to being a traitor because of his protests...

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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:55 PM
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16. huge BACKFIRE
too many people are talking about it already as an abuse of power by sinclair.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:55 PM
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17. Not sure.
I'll bet the numbers change in Ohio. There are lots of Sincliar (I started to correct that, but it fits, so I'll leave it!) stations here, and Ohio's pretty close; people are gullible and easily swayed by peer pressure. I hope Kerry's got enough of a load other places, I'm seriously worried about Ohio, with all the crap that Blackwell's pulling already. I suspect the larger portion of people who'll watch it will be people who already planned to vote for the Naked Emperor, but Sinclair wouldn't be putting its balls on the line over this if they weren't pretty sure they could sway the polls in at least one of the states where they have heavy coverage.
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