Are you willing to believe that Kerry lost ALL his post debate momentum?

[fujiyama]

That's basically what the Zogby poll is saying. Zogby had Kerry down by around 4 before the debates.

Now all of a sudden he's back to the same thing.

NOw, I'm willing to admit that Kerry may have slipped a point or two from the height of his debate bounces...I'm sure Bush made up some ground after his first terrible performance.

But I'm not willing to concede that Kerry benefited greatly from teh debates, inspite of the "Cheney's daughter is a lesbian" thing.

[Rockholm]

1. The Lesbian Thing is a SMOKESCREEN!

[cthrumatrix]

9. Bingo.... the news is awol is in "freefall"....anything to change subjects

[ET Awful]

2. It's bulllshit and it's irrelevant.

First, it's a blip and will vanish.

Second, it's irrelevant because the popular vote doesn't win the election. Show me state by state polls from a reliable polling agency (so this leaves electoral-vote.com out since they use crap polls) so we'll have a valid electoral breakdown.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. I don't believe it at all. It just tells me they're playing with the poll

Has it ever occurred to you that they know ahead of time who they're calling and have a good idea of the response they'll receive?

If they are throwing out Democratic registration forms in one state, why wouldn't they toy with the polls. The Republican party has turned Gotti. I wouldn't be surprised if their priests are informing their parishes that it's their divine duty to steal the election.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. My fundie neighbor's 5 year old

told me her mommy would vote for George Bush four times if she could.

This is what fundies are teaching their children. That's it's okay to lie and cheat if it's for Our Lord Savior George Bush.

Go figure.

[fujiyama]

8. These people are insane

There is no doubt that this election will be rife with corruption and fraud.

I'm expecting one hell of a mess on election day.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. The ones next door

are intelligent, run a very successful business, and are financially well off. They are lovely neighbors and reasonable people otherwise. Go figure?

[cali]

4. In a word-

NO. Think battle ground states. Kerry's close in FLA and ARK. , in IA, ahead in OH and MI, tied in NH, NM, etc. I know the National horse race polls are disheartening, but things are better than they seem.

[tsuki]

10. Close in Florida...

from your lips to the great one's ear. I live in FL and before I found this board, I thought I was the only democratic orphan left in the state.

[secular_warrior]

6. I wouldn't get too excited about it

We need to wait until Monday at the earliest, IMO, when the 3 day tracking polls will truly reflect all of the days after Wednesday's debate.

Nothing has happened to affect the race except the debate, and Kerry won according to most of the post-debate polls. If anything, we should expect the debate to have a positive effect, or at the very worst, no effect at all.

[ihaveaquestion]

7. Ignore the polls

In a race this close, they are meaningless. It's uncomfortable but we just have to live with the uncertainty for a little while longer.

[archineas]

11. MOE?

as long as the poll is still within the margin of error, it doesn't really matter if kerry is up 4 or if bush is up 4. the proportion of people, according to accurate polling, moves between the low and the high (based on the MOE). a sound pollster reports the "average" result and the margin of error generally covers an interval which says "if you repeat this study on your own, you should get a result very close to mine, but within these values, about 95% of the time. one out of every 20 will be outside this."

when someone's outside the MOE, then it's time to start paying attention.

j

[DemocracyInaction]

13. You bet it makes no damn sense

That domestic issues debate really revealed how Bush has no plan or caring for the average American. Why would anybody but a corporate CEO think Bush got any momentum??? I swear to god the American people just don't want to be helped. But then ABC apparently just released new poll and it's tied---and I think Kerry was down in that one. Who the hell knows anymore what is going on. Gallup oversamples republicans and yet in the after debate poll they also asked "who vote for" and it was 50-47 in favor of Kerry. Insane.