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Fri Oct-15-04 07:09 AM
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Mo Dowd's has got her legs straight up in the air again! |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 07:09 AM by trumad
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:11 AM
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1. I thought it was balanced, although |
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I can't stand her masturbatory writing style.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:25 AM
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2. MoDo's a little schizophrenic......... |
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I suppose that's her job though. I don't read into this article what you do I guess. She's trying to point out the good and bad traits of both candidates. Certainly Bush has more bad traits than Kerry, but we can't have everything our way all the time. If we did, we'd be called "Republicans". I think she's echoing what a lot of people feel about the choices in November. Let's face it, Kerry does not resonate with most people the way he does with us. Is Kerry a better choice come November? Without question. But from talking to a LOT of mainstream people in the last few months, Kerry doesn't overly impress them. To the them it's a choice of the lesser of two evils. We can't get overly excited about every article that doesn't paint Kerry as the second coming of Christ. We here at DU are Kerry's foot soldiers. The majority of people in this country are the ones staying home letting the soldiers on both sides slug it out. Trying to reach these people and win them over is OUR job, not Maureen Dowd's. I'm no great fan of MoDo, but in the long run I think she thumps Bush harder than Kerry.
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:01 PM
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31. If what you say about Kerry is true, |
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that he doesn't resonate as strongly with mainstream voters, then there is only one reason for that: They are relying on the corporate news to shape their view.
There's nothing any of us can do about that.
When Kerry is president, he'll be able to get those people behind him easily.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:30 AM
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3. pretty harsh, it seemed like a pretty objective article to me. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 07:32 AM by lectrobyte
to quote a paragraph:
Mr. Kerry should have at least tried to pierce Mr. Bush's nimbus of mendacity on Iraq and Saddam and Al Qaeda and the economy, and reached for a dramatic moment - à la Captain "Ah, but the strawberries" Queeg, or Jack "You can't handle the truth" Nicholson - by riposting, "Only a delusional frat boy from Crawford. ..."
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I'd like to have seen a bit more punch and fireworks myself. As she says, Bush is divorced from reality, and we are still struggling to land an open punch. The only part I might question is her take on mentioning Cheney's daughter, but I can see where folks are coming from if they thought that was a bad thing to do. Since Ms. Dowd seems to rip on Bush much harder than Kerry, what whoring are you getting at?
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:38 AM
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Follow Dowd long enough and you know exactly what she is doing.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:50 AM
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6. I read her on and off, but not regularly, but I'm not seeing what |
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you're getting at -- it's still kind of early in the morning for me. Anyway, she's probably not my favorite columnist, but she seems pretty objective to me.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:48 AM
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5. Whoreen will never desert her beloved Bush. |
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Look at this PRESSTITUTE's track record.
Another reason to boycott the SCREW YORK TIMES!
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Fri Oct-15-04 09:11 AM
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16. Wow. you made some insulting puns based on people's names. |
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That takes a lot of insight and wit. I truly admire your ability to think up such original and thought provoking banter...
But let's try this. Not just the "Screw York Times." No, that's not caustic enough. They're the "Screw Whork Times." And since they're a bunch of little farts, we can call them the "Pressti-toots" from the Screw Whork Times. No, from the Screw Whork Crimes because it's a crime when people disagree with us. Especially when they're Pressti-toots--no, whoresti-toots--from Screw Whork City. I mean Screw Whork Shitty.
Yes, they have been truly insulted now. I have totally contributed to the political dialog in this country. I mean the political LIE-a-LOG in this cuntry. Woof woof.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:23 PM
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20. My mom used to refer to Sadaam Hussein as |
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Sadaam Insane and Kohmeni as Kackameni.
I always found that sophmoric and uninspired. Of course, you don't tell your own mother that, of course, though I would occasionally try to explain that such name calling didn't make a person look terrible intelligent. She never really got what I meant.
Maybe that's why such behavior makes me cringe now. It's not cute on the Right. It's not cute on the Left. It's juvenile, either way.
We're supposed to be the intelligent, educated ones here, people.
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Fri Oct-15-04 09:21 AM
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17. Wrong. I guess you've never read her latest book. |
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:35 PM
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24. Many More People Are Lamentably Exposed To Her NYTimes Column |
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than her book.
She tries a veneer of "balance" but ultimately she ALWAYS bashes Democrats.
All in an attempt to sound clever and continue to get invited to all the right parties.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:43 PM
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26. The book is a compilation of her NY Times columns. |
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And it's clear she DESPISES George W. Bush.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:51 AM
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7. I Cannot Stand the Way She Writes or Speaks |
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Her columns and her appearances on pundit shows are an attempt to point out how "clever" she is first and foremost.
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Fri Oct-15-04 07:56 AM
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8. I think all these pundits forget that there simply isn't time in those |
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debate formats to put in all these punches and still get ones own message out. If a candidate did that, then the whores would complain that they never "gave their vision" of how to solve problems, etc. In other words they can always find a way to criticize because it's impossible to do it all in those limited time frames. The punches come in the campaign speeches and, of course, we know that no self respecting journalist would ever cover what the candidates are saying on the campaign trail. That would be un-American and might make the people actually think. I'm sick of these overpaid excuses for journalists. And editorial writers in particular should have to attend and report on every speech before they open their mouths.
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:03 AM
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9. I don't normally read her, but this article seemed balanced to me... |
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sure, I'd have rather it had all been negative against bush, positive for Kerry, but that's unrealistic. IMHO, Kerry came off a lot better than Bush in this piece, even though she did throw barbs at both.
I think her overall point is a valid one: the debates with someone scintillating or bombastic would have made a more interesting debate TO WATCH. And I agree with her that Kerry could have gone for the jugular more.
To call bush "mini me" is very derogatory and really describes him very well.
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:11 AM
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10. The op-ed column read like a throwaway |
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I had the distinct feeling she thought both men were in love with her and she is just too good for either of them.
Stopping looking in the mirror, Mo.
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:25 AM
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11. How to write this without appearing to be sexist.... |
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the key to Dowd is to understand that she loves and lusts after men and even loves it more she can make men lust after her. By watching her, you can tell how she gets a lot of her information - she makes men think that she wants them.
You can see it in her tv appearances - for example, a few weeks ago she was on Bill Maher's show. She would sit there and bite her lower lip, flip her hair and bat her eyes at the males.
Currently she is in the new Rolling Stone posed on some stairs in an erotic manner.
She has learned the way to inner male.
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Fri Oct-15-04 09:00 AM
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15. It's called pretty girl syndrome. Smart people taught to dumb it down. |
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It is a legitimate vehicle to power, altho not a particularly honorable one.
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Fri Oct-15-04 09:25 AM
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18. Unfortunately, even in 2004, it's often the only power many women have. |
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:32 AM
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12. Not a fan, but she captured some of my feelings that night |
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:55 AM
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13. Is she related to Matthew Dowd, who works for Bush? n/t |
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Fri Oct-15-04 08:57 AM
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14. Whore? Don't be silly. Bartcop's got the bead on her. She hates everyone. |
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Queen of the self satisfied. Queen of the smug.
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Fri Oct-15-04 09:55 AM
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19. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Mo just puts me to sleep. But I'm not a guy.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:27 PM
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21. Is there anything wrong with women having their legs in the air? |
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I Didn't read the article, but I must say, More women should follow suit!
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:30 PM
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22. Mo usually watched herself in the mirror when she has her legs up |
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She is in love with hearing and seeing herself.
Typical media whore.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:32 PM
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23. How incredibly vacuous |
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:40 PM
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25. What reality are you guys living in? |
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Maureen Dowd is one of the most anti-Bush well syndicated columnists in the country. She's incredibly progressive and wrote the anti-Bush book "Bush World." She's by no means a "Bush whore" as some you so eloquently put it. Actually, I think she's really hot.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:47 PM
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29. She's worse than a media whore |
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She knows the score. She wrote the book, as you note, on BushCo and STILL turns her lazy, snotty, too cool for school prose on any and all who might unseat them.
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:48 PM
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37. I don't think Kerry's above criticism |
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Let's face, the guy is not perfect. No one is. He does make mistakes and unless we are willing to call him on them, we'll become just as ignorant as the republicans (well, not quite as much, but you know I what I mean).
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:11 PM
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34. Are you an importer-exporter? |
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:43 PM
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27. an insouciant and superficial writer with no redeeming social value |
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i have seen better developed thoughts expressed on bathroom walls at truck stops.
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:44 PM
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She bashes everyone. Nobody can make her happy. It's not that big a deal
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Fri Oct-15-04 12:47 PM
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30. Dowd makes a nice pitch for a Nader vote. |
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She is right that its a shame Kerry didn't go straight after Bush more often in Round 3. Bush would say something stupid and Kerry would respond with a calm response to the question.
Kerry played it like a team with a 10 point lead entering the 4th quarter.
Smart, but not very exciting.
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:03 PM
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32. The problem with Dowd is she's a fucking moron who spews horseshit |
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Other than that she's great. "Who among us doesn't love Nascar?"
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:09 PM
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33. ive never met a shrink that didn't need one themselves |
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Fri Oct-15-04 01:12 PM
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35. I think you're nuts. the only reason I'm replying |
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is to keep your link to her article kicked.
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Fri Oct-15-04 04:53 PM
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39. You ever read Somerby? |
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Fri Oct-15-04 04:47 PM
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38. The problem is that she does what she criticizes in others. |
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Maureen Dowd devotes much of her piece to criticism of the appearances of the candidates and the namby-pamby comments they make about their wives and daughters. Then she complains about the lack of hard-hitting attacks or discussion from Kerry. But if you read the transcript, you'll find he discussed the minimum wage, right to choose, etc.
Dowd wants to have it both ways. She wants to be Carrie Bradshaw and and Colman McCarthy, and winds up being neither.
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