What would it take to convince fundamentalists that Bush is an evil man?

[BurtWorm]

Clearly his being caught in lies about the war didn't do it. His steady snuffing out of life in Texas and Iraq doesn't do it. So what would do it? What wedge can separate them from their god-given "president?" Surely not the "Mary Cheney" wedge? They're not going to hold their Second Coming responsible for the Cheneys' sins, are they?

[Unstuck In Time]

1. Nothing is going to convince them. Ignore them and focus on...

... people with the ability to reason.

[leftofthedial]

2. if the species survives the coming dark ages

some of their offspring may become convinced

these are damaged, irrational, ignorant people

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Short of spontaneous combustion

...never mind.

[lilymidnite]

4. Reasoning will not work with these people

Only a personal realization by them, which may take years, and may never happen.

From personal experience.

[Virginian]

5. I don't think the fundies will ever be swayed, but

You can let them know Bush doesn't attend church and tell them that he doesn't tithe. Maybe then, some of the regular church-goers who are not fundies might wake up.

[gavodotcom]

6. The rapture comes and both they and Bush are still here. :)

[atommom]

7. I think he would have to emit a poof of black smoke and turn into

the stereotypical red, cloven-hoofed Satan. While simulataneously shaking his pitchfork, burning a stack of Bibles, unleashing the four horsemen of the apocalypse, and telling the religious right what he actually thinks of them. On national TV.

I suspect that they'd blame it all on camera tricks played by the liberal media, though! :evilfrown:

[zinsky]

22. They Would Blame the Liberal Media

Not a chance they would beleive it...

[candy331]

8. Lobotomy n/t

[realFedUp]

9. BeHereNow says he's the second beast in Revelations 13

That might get their attention.

[KayLaw]

10. Nothing

Once my friend tried to break to a fundie friend that her own daughter had caught the fundie's son torturing small animals. The fundie said, No, he didn't do that - and that was it.

Another friend came out to her fundie mom on a day they were to go shopping. Her mom said, Oh, just put that foolishness right out of your head - get your coat, we're going shopping. And they never spoke of it again. These are people who think dinosaur bones were put here by God to test their faith. Forget it.

[Catfight]

11. Some people still give money to Jim Baker and he was outed

as a fraud. These people literally do not have lives worth living unless they put all their faith and money into someone else's lives. They are your classic co-dependents, when they die, someone else's life flashes before their eyes. Graveyards are full of these people.

[Boomer]

12. Sexual scandal

Compromising photos of George and Condoleeza might do it.

[AirAmFan]

16. What ever came of Condi's slip about her "husband"? That was bizarre and

cried out for tabloid exploitation. Now would be a great time for tabloids to pounce on this, while *'s Teflon is thinning.

[LynnTheDem]

13. blowjob

in the White House.

From his daughters.

Together.

All 3 of them.

While Laura filmed them.

Maybe.

[johnnyrocket]

14. Fundies are IRRATIONAL by nature, and hopeless by pleadings

of sanity, fairness, and common sense. Ignore them. Concentrate on the apolitical, the middle of the road folks, and the democrats to take our country back!!!

[Arkana]

15. He'd have to be caught boinking Condi Rice on the Oval Office desk

Or something like that. Even then, they'd probably blame it on Bill Clinton and his EVIL EVIL PENIS.

[zinsky]

23. What a hideous thought!!!!!!!!!

YUCK!

[Arkana]

24. It is indeed

Enough to make you want to put out your eyes with a fork.

[LibDemAlways]

17. He'd have to be seen

on live tv in prime time participating in a satanic ritual involving sacrifice and necrophilia. That might do it.

[Mike L]

18. Darn, you stole my answer.

Make that: satanic sacrifices of infant babies. Otherwise, Fundies will say the victims "probably deserved it".

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. How bout the Moonie connection? Do they really want to

support a cult leader who claims to be the second coming?

[Wind Dancer]

25. I ended up in a 2 hour confrontation

with a couple of them the other day and I had a ton facts to back up my case and they flat out didn't believe a word I was saying. It got really ugly - they are a brainwashed cult that have an answer for everything. The entire incident left me outraged and emotionally drained.

I told them everything about Rev. Moon, didn't make a difference, they just attacked me for being a person of peace.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

31. Mass numbers of brain transplants

Perhaps a year in a reeducation camp run by the communist chinese.

[RaleighNCDUer]

33. Another four years of bush

and they'll be the ones running the reeducation camps.

[seabeyond]

20. 2 hour converstaion with fundamentalist

just now. our kids go to a fundamentalist school. had her crying in spots. told her, not nice about it any more. went thru so much of it. told her how my kids are afraid of the school, how my husband feels the threat me talking to a repug male, not dems. how they are saying bend over all over the place, i know what rape is, what the experience is. to look at intent. that this small group, fundies that call themselves christian and the rest of the world not, how a small handful of white male thru intimidation and the white male bullshit rule.............she is allowing. that disgusts me.

ultimately, as she would tell me why she was voting for him, and i would knock it donw to greed, selfishness or plain stupidly, in disgust and i am done, honestly all i have said give me one reason you are voting for bush., just one..............

couldnt

how, you arent going to. i told her none of us could help them. they have so isolated themselves and become so exclusive, the only people that could help a fundie to see walking away from god is this, would be fellow fundies. yet not a single one stands up to speak, this is the shame in it. take away vote and not a single person says it is wrong. will agree with me, but doesnt matter, if you dont say it to the republicans, that you feel shame in theft of vote.

handed her f9/11 and sent her on her way

they tell themselves such lies so they can believe in bush

[zinsky]

21. A Homosexual Affair With Bill Clinton?!?

This might do it.....

[mmonk]

26. Nothing

They lead in "cognitive dissonance".

[LeftyMom]

27. Proof of the abortion rumor. nt

[ciaobox]

28. FUCK THE FUNDIES WITH A CHAINSAW

Why are you even wasting your time asking this question? Fuck 'em. They are the enemy right now. We need to turn out our base.

[BurtWorm]

34. I ask because I find fundamentalism to be a problem for democracy.

Fundamentalism requires as little thought as possible, yet somehow it inspires more action than mopst people are willing to engage in.

[Vincardog]

29. Tell them He is the Great Deceiver Show the Two Faced picture and start

listing this Orwellian laws and the truth behind his deceptions. I did that and ended up with a Fundie saying Well then I am not going to vote for either one. ONE LESS FOR THEIR SIDE.

[noonwitch]

30. Finding a 666 tattoo on his scalp

Short of that, I can't think of anything.

[TexasSissy]

32. You cannot convince a Christian that God is bad. It's that simple.

Don't even try. It's the undecideds that need convincing.

[whirlygigspin]

35. Pray for them

they live in fear & darkness.

[ibegurpard]

36. If Jesus himself came back

and told them that Bush was an evil bad man they would crucify him all over again.

[hippiegranny]

37. waste of time

Turn your energies elsewhere. These people have all the answers, just ask them. You won't be changing their minds about anything.

[JPace]

38. Become pro-choice.....

he'd lose over half of his supporters immediately.

But hell will freeze over before that happens.

[BUSHOUT]

39. Don't waste your time....do things that will help, like:

Go to the DailyKos Sinclair page. Target and monitor advertisers listed there:
DailyKos Sinclair page

Bump this DU topic
which will be seen by Sinclair sales people

Email media to highlight last nights exposure of John O'Niel as a egomanical liar

[cyr330]

40. Let's see. . . .

Bush* would have to be caught red handed while raping a 3-year-old mentally handicapped boy for them to open their eyes. . . . And even then, I wouldn't be able to guarantee that those morons would realzie what a pathetic sack of shit he is. . . .

[PurityOfEssence]

41. It is by definition ABSOLUTELY impossible

Their identity is rooted in believing in things despite all contrary evidence; it's called faith. The act of ignoring even more merely works the hook in deeper. He would be a prodigal son--hell, he already is--to the faithful if he was caught lying, cheating, stealing or having gay bestial non-consentual sex with a minor bald eagle.

Forget it.

People who are afraid of the unknown will cling to any system that quells the horror of doubt.