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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:03 AM
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LOOK AT THE 18 NATIONAL POLL AVERAGE, NOT JUST ZOGBY
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 11:07 AM by TruthIsAll
The Election Model does not include Zogby yet. It will be updated at 7pm today. There will be very little change in the average Kerry/Bush spread and Kerry's win probability won't decline by much either. It will still be way over 95% for the 18 poll group.

Kerry will be leading in Zogby within a few days. I feel it.

Besides, Kerry is leading in FOX and ABC/WP and CNN.

Who woulda thunk it?

No thrashing, please.

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:05 AM
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1. This looks good, but there are so many ways to look at numbers
they still can not and should not be trusted.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:11 AM
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2. kick
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Was_Immer Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:12 AM
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3. Where do you see Kerry leading in Fox ABC/WP CNN?
I dont see it anywhere. I see Kerry winning the debate but thats all. Please provide a link
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:55 PM
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11. I saw it quickly on one of the cable channels yesterday, can't recall
which.

But I saw it. Maybe they decided not to advertise it.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:21 AM
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4. Kick
thanks TruthisAll!

Sonia
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:22 AM
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5. keep kicked for morale
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Was_Immer Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:28 AM
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6. Please explain how you got to this figure
Election Model Projections

(Base Case Assumption: Kerry wins 60% of the undecided/other vote)


In not attacking you, or flaming you. Just curious.
How do you get 60%.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:58 PM
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12. The challenger has historically received 60-80% of the undecided.
I get that question a lot. Link to my site and go to the favorite links. Look at the UNFUTZ link for the info.

My 60% is conservative. I figure Kerry will get 2/3 or 67%.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:30 AM
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7. Zogby interactive of 10/7 has Kerry leading in EVs.
www.zogby.com

I don't know if the interactive is reliable, but still.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:30 AM
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8. remember polls lag a week
This is the "bounce" from debate #2 where Bush actually appeared human.
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Was_Immer Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:36 AM
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9. i dont think this poll lagged
from the way it was described it is an overnight poll.

check out this

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=4&u=/nm/20041015/pl_nm/campaign_poll_friday_dc
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 01:04 PM
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13. Wait till next week, Zogby will have Kerry up by at least 3.
By the end of next week: maybe he'll be up 5.

Of course, that's just a feeling. It could be wishful thinking.

But the point is, Kerry is moving up. And Zogby will catch it soon. The tracking poll only includes one day of post-debate polling. Give it a few days to sink in.
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pelagius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:39 AM
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10. Only one poll matters: NOVEMBER 2...
...and the rest are distractions. We're in a dead heat, folks, and we MUST keep our eyes on the prize.
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