DON'T stop obsessing over polls!

[Selwynn]

The fact that John Kerry isn't blowing Bush out of the water in every single poll, leading by 6 points or more, is unbelievable and ridiculous. It shouldn't be this close, and yet it is. Until or unless we open up a healthy lead - one that beats the +/- error margin, we've got NOTHING to celebrate, and NOTHING to rest on, only a lot of work to do. Personally, I've been kicking it into high gear myself, working with the great number of fence sitters and long time republicans who disapprove of Bush, getting them to vote for Kerry.

Sel

[Goldmund]

1. What polls are you looking at?

Zogby has Bush up by 4 in their tracking poll. So does Rasmussen. Gallup has Kerry up by 1. In what polls is Kerry up by 6 or more?

[Selwynn]

2. point is, the response to Bush numbers is often: stop obessing about polls

When polls look good for us, many DUers cheer. And when polls look bad for us, many DUers blow it off and tell others to stopp worrying about the polls.

We should be worried when the country is this closely divided after everything we've seen and all the differences that have been illustrated between Bush and Kerry. It should be really concerning to us that Kerry is not leading with a lead that beats the margin of error spread. A poll that says Bush 48, Kerry 44 with a +/- marging of 3 points is a statistical TIE. It means it could be Bush 51, Kerry 41, or it could be Kerry 47, Bush 45, etc. It means that after ALL THIS TIME and after EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN in this nation the fucking american people still can't make up their mind. Jesus christ... if we vote this ass-hat into office for a second term, our country deserves EXACTLY what it'll get.

[cspiguy]

3. the momentum has shifted to the bad guys and we have to get it back

somehow, independants are breaking towards *. I think JFK should not have made that comment about Cheney's daughter that now looks like and is being reported as a "gaff".

[michigandem2]

4. I want to remind everyone who is FREAKING OUT

these polls are shit...Joe Trippi talks about this all the time even WHEN we were up two pts...

they can't accurately poll cell phone users, newly registered voters..YOUNG people who carry only cell phones...its crap...

KEEP THAT IN MIND...just work your ass off for the next 18 days

[Selwynn]

5. That totally makes my point 100%

This polls ARE shit. But the point is, we OUGHT TO BE LEADING BY SOOOOO MUCH that there's no possible way they could play with the numbers.

You all act like the problem is that polls are shit. That's not the problem. The problem is that after EVERYTHING AMERICA HAS SEEN it is still this close. That's is just ridiculous! There should be such a huge lead for Kerry that no media could possibly deny.

There isn't, so we've got lots of work to do.

[michigandem2]

7. AGAIN THERE IS A HUGE LEAD

if you remember we have RECORD registration...and tons of support that these numbers can't tell people...we just have to keep workign the ground...these numbers don't have all the uncounted people we are going to see line up at the polls...that is my point...KERRY is more than likely farther ahead than these polls can tell us...its just not in black and white and on paper and on a computer screen..have faith...PEOPLE want change..PEOPLE want him out..I am not going to waste my energy on some poll that shows bush with a small lead in the MOE...why??? a LOT of polls were wrong in 2000 and I suspect MORE than some..and possibly ALL will be wrong in 2004

[Selwynn]

8. I'll believe that when I see it. And you're still missing my point

Not every election is neck and neck in the polls. Polling bias, partisanship, etc. that's been around for a long time. That didn't mean that in several elections one candidate was up in the polls by double digits.

My point is that the fact that it is EVEN CLOSE in the polls is pretty damn sad.

[DaveinMD]

6. this election

has always been about turnout. The country is heavily divided. A normal electorate could go either way. A heavy turnout means we win.

I work in politics. A blip in a tracking poll is completely normal. This happens when you only poll 300 people per day.