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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:48 AM
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Nader IS a problem
Several Democratic and left-leaning groups sprung up this year to try to keep Mr. Nader off the ballot in the swing states, fearing he could siphon votes from Mr. Kerry as he did from Al Gore in 2000. In Florida that year, Mr. Nader won 1.6 percent of the vote. That accounted for 97,488 votes, and Mr. Bush beat Mr. Gore there by 537.

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=9960

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:49 AM
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1. No, He Is NOT. Thanks For Playing Though
the only people voting Nader are disgusted Republicans who can't bring themselves to vote Kerry and a few stupid college kids.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:53 AM
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2. huh
Stu Rothensburg just said 3 minutes ago on CNN is that he will be no factor.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:54 AM
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3. Sorry I think he IS a problem
even a handful of votes for him and not JK COULD make a difference. I cannot subscribe to the 'head in the sand' mentality and think everything is peachy keen. We have to work like HELL and like we'er 20 points behind. Not sit back and say it's in the bag. As someone posted here, JK won all debates, but it's a YAWN from the media. If Smirk won all JK would be "toast", "finished", "all over", etc. And the ONLY poll MSNBC is citing today is the very one JK is a few points back on.

Im sorry, Im not fighting with YOU, but I just cannot la de da through this, thinking it's all gonna work out fine. Im working like we're 20 points behind, because you never ever can underestimate Rove and after 2000, I couldnt POSSIBLY take the Nader Factor for granted.

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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:56 AM
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4. You are wise to work as though we're 20 points behind.
Unfortunately, your eye is on the wrong target.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:01 PM
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5. and what target is that?
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:33 PM
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6. Perhaps I misunderstood your post. Sorry if I did.
Isn't it Nader?

Just to be clear, I believe Bushco is the proper target.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:38 PM
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7. Of COURSE!!!! Sorry, didnt feel the obvious
needed to be posted. But I try and look at every angle possible. Of course, you are completely 110% correct on BushCo.

But there are other factors *I* feel that need to be watched. Does this sound naive? Maybe. But to just keep saying Nader is stupid, out of touch, a spolier, and nothing more, I just cant accept after 2000. I will never ever again think anything is too far out, not a problem, or cannot have any effect. Probably obsessive behavior, at the very least, but Im trying to keep any possible "problem" on the radar.
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