If i could ask Lyne Cheney a question...

[rndmprsn]

i'd never get into one of their staged events...call me stupid but i have a healthy distrust of loyalty oaths...anyhow.

Mrs Cheney...

First off, you are not running for office, but you get a spotlight becuase you are Dicks wife...seems like Dick needs you to soften his image...thats fine, becuase Dick needs it...now then, you say John Kerry is not a good man when he supports the rights for your daughter that the President would deny and even more than that he would write into the constitution permanent and perfectly legal discrimination against her and millions of other law abiding citizens...so if you think Kerry is a bad man for mentioning the fact that your daughter is gay within a compassionate context...then by that very logic you must think that President Bush is a downright terrible man...would you care to indulge us with your thoughts about President Bush's efforts to discrimintate against your daughter and 10% of the population of the US?

thanks...

[GRLMGC]

1. ahahaha

If they're using that witch to try to soften his image, then they should consider trying something else because there's no way that shit's working on rational people.

[amber dog democrat]

2. I wonder if the Cheneys are not secretly ashamed of their

daughter's sexual orientation, or perhaps uncomfortable that ii has become public knowledge. If they really cared about Mary, maybe they would take issue with the Chimp's pandering to the religious right and its phobia of homosexuals and lesbians.

This is something we need to grow out of anyway.

[rndmprsn]

3. i agree, lesbian would only be a dirty word...

if you were ashamed of it....

[Vincardog]

4. What do you mean? Cheney's Lesbian Daughter is voting DEMOCRAT?

[amber dog democrat]

5. Not only that, but she is a closet

LIBERAL !!!! bwa ha ha ha h a

[rndmprsn]

7. Mary Cheney is also a VERY highly paid...

member of the campaign...i wonder what SHE thinks about Bush's anti-gay amendment?

[amber dog democrat]

10. my point - she is hardly an innocent bystander

Which makes her more of a hypocrate.- and more of a repug.

[sangh0]

28. What about Valerie Plame being "outed"??

Why don't you talk about the hypocrisy of THAT?

Or is it because Plame isn't a lesbian?

[KittyWampus]

6. Stop Wasting Our Time W/ This Shit. Rove Just Testified To Grand Jury

your priorities are screwed up.

[amber dog democrat]

8. But you know he lied.

What ever he says can't be believed. Especially if its under oath.

[sangh0]

11. And we know that Mary Cheney wasn't outed either

but that hasn't stopped you from subjecting us to your lesbian obsession

[amber dog democrat]

14. No really its more aimed at Lynne Cheney

and her corporate thug of a husband. Mary is small patotos. I want them to feel defensive and uncomfortable. Sexual orientation is not an issue for me.
Hypocracy is.

[sangh0]

16. So "It's not about the sex"???

I believe ya!

[amber dog democrat]

21. Sex is not my focus here.

I wonder if the whole issue would not just go away - were it not for the RW horror of other than traditional gender preferences. If the Chimp came down on this and said
I believe what i believe but its wrong to amend the Constitution over something this stupid - then I would have a little respect for him.

But riight now he is pandering to the fundies and Catholics in a big way.

Live and let live. Who cares what gender someone else prefers ? I bet this person is happier if she or he is actualized and living openly they way thier preferences direct.

Just be yourslef. We must get over thie horror and stigma that attaches itsself to being gay.

I have an issue with hypocracy.

[sangh0]

23. It's not about the sex??

Well, since it's not YOUR focus, I'm sure sex has nothing to do with it.

[amber dog democrat]

25. Everything is fair game.

You know, honestly I almost wish Kerry had not made that example... but i have a horror of theocracy here. No minority, ( and i am not even sure if being gay really IS a m inority ) , is safe.

As for sex , I wish more people had more of it. Maybe they'd be nicer, better folk.

But when you are a public figure, the standards protecting your privacy are considerably different. I still think Kerry did the right thing, but he did sail pretty clost to the wind a couple of times!

Do you remember Anita Bryant and her gay bashing in the early 80s ?
I feel if the pressure is not kept on the Republican religious right, more people with these kinds of devisive prejucdices will be out there doing more harm.

It makes me really wonder why there even ARE Log Cabin Republicans. In a sense they are second class citizens in their own party.

[sangh0]

27. I'm more concerned about the "outing" of Valerie Plame

Rove testified to the grand jury today about it. I realize there's no sex involved, but there is hypocrisy involved.

[rndmprsn]

33. Then start your own thread about it

if you feel that strongly...or hey maybe write a letter to the editor (remember that one?) rather than browbeat other people here.

self-righteousness is a virtue, but can be annoying too =]

[amber dog democrat]

34. so do you have any specifics on this

I among a few others would love seeing Rove under criminal indicment.
Do we have any details yet?
The concern I have is since Rove has no scruples or principles...he won't be any more truthful under oath either. But yes to for him and nail down Tom DeLay in a different sideshow issue too, while we are at it.... but no, my focus on this thread is not about sex so much as hypocracy. The GOP is who started this issue with their pandering to er Religious right. Remember the Moral Majority ? its the same thing.

or ..... I give up, Yes its about sex. Now you have me figured out.
I confess to all. My postings in this thread are prurient and only about sex.

sex sex sex sex sex and more sex

:)

[rndmprsn]

19. Agreed 100%

[rndmprsn]

9. Speak for yourself...

i was annoyed by the hypocrisy and as an adult i am allowed to show my dis-pleasure...self censorship says to go to the next thread if you don't like what you see....now i will put my flame suit on.

but i concede the point...this is taking time away from real issues for sure, but we must respond if we do not agree...period.

[sangh0]

13. S/he DID speak for themself

as an adult i am allowed to show my dis-pleasure

How self-entitled! "I'm have a right to do it, so it must be right to do it!"

How about trying to explain how it helps for you to obsess over lesbians?

but i concede the point...this is taking time away from real issues for sure, but we must respond if we do not agree...period.

Umm, you are "responding" to DUers, who agree with you that this is hypocrisy. Can you try to explain why "WE MUST RESPOND" by talking about this on a DU thread all day long?

[rndmprsn]

15. please...

How self-entitled! "I'm have a right to do it, so it must be right to do it!"

yes and your point is?

Umm, you are "responding" to DUers, who agree with you that this is hypocrisy. Can you try to explain why "WE MUST RESPOND" by talking about this on a DU thread all day long?

uhm...the two parts of your argument are disconnected...but anyhow, i'm not going to waste anymore precious DU thread space debating you about this...so if you are not happy, please do not waste any thread space yourself if you are that concerned about it...save your energy for other battles.

WE MUST RESPOND did not mean to other DU'er but to the RW media and their ilk...please don't put words in my mouth...thanks

my point that you have seemed to have lost was that lyne cheney is a hypocrite, if you do not agree then that is that...i have nothing to add.

thats all.

[sangh0]

18. The point was in the quote

To wit - "How self-entitled!"

WE MUST RESPOND did not mean to other DU'er but to the RW media and their ilk

So what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be writing a LTTE?

my point that you have seemed to have lost was that lyne cheney is a hypocrite,

Breaking News!!

Lynne isn't running.

if you do not agree then that is that...i have nothing to add.

I was hoping you had a defense of your remarks to add. I guess not.

[rndmprsn]

20. haha

So what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be writing a LTTE?

what am i doing here...are you freaking serious?! i'm giving my oppinion on a public forum...what are YOU doing by attacking me for giving my honest oppinion?! and yes...i'm ten steps ahead of you...ive written 5 LTTE so far.

Breaking News!! Lynne isn't running.

snip- from my original post

"Mrs Cheney...First off, you are not running for office, but you get a spotlight becuase you are Dicks wife"

hmmm...i'll let you do the math on this one, haha.


I was hoping you had a defense of your remarks to add. I guess not.

go bother and hi-jack someone else's thread...or better yet, start your own....i must've touched a sore soft-spot somewhere from something else and now i'm getting it taken out on me...yeah ive heard it all before, yawn.

[sangh0]

24. What are you doing here?

what am i doing here...are you freaking serious?! i'm giving my oppinion on a public forum...what are YOU doing by attacking me for giving my honest oppinion

I see. Your post is an "opinion on a public forum". My posts are "attacks"

"Mrs Cheney...First off, you are not running for office, but you get a spotlight becuase you are Dicks wife"

hmmm...i'll let you do the math on this one, haha.

So what? You still haven't explained how it does any good to clog up DU with Mary CHeney threads.

go bother and hi-jack someone else's thread...or better yet, start your own....yawn.

If you weren't so new, you'd know I'm not about to go anywhere. If you don't like it, maybe YOU should find somewhere to go.

[rndmprsn]

26. i'm now answering you...thats what.

So what? You still haven't explained how it does any good to clog up DU with Mary CHeney threads.

tag...got ya on this one =]

snip - from an earlier reply

"so if you are not happy, please do not waste any thread space yourself if you are that concerned about it...save your energy for other battles."

why don't YOU stop clogging up DU threads with your anger as i suggested previously?

If you weren't so new, you'd know I'm not about to go anywhere. If you don't like it, maybe YOU should find somewhere to go.

hmmm...now who's being a hypocrite, you should be ashamed of yourself...discouraging people to stand up for their beliefs and asking another PAID DU member to go somewhere else...wanna dig your hole a little deeper?

[sangh0]

29. LOL

You're SO interested in hypocrisy, but you don't say a word about the hypocrisy of the outing of Valerie Plame, which Rove testified to the grand jury about today.

Oh, I forgot!! Plame isn't a lesbian.

[rndmprsn]

30. You've reached a dead end...

change the subject huh?

you kill me...now seriously go away and play nice.

[sangh0]

31. You don't care about "outing" all of a sudden?

And here I thought you were ALL ABOUT "hypocrisy".

I thought "It's not about the sex"

[rndmprsn]

32. Sorry, i'm more dynamic than being "ALL ABOUT" hypocrisy.

go away...you've been taken down point by point...now all you can do is attack and feint...this is getting old...yawn.

[frankly_fedup2]

12. PLUS, you showed your total ignorance on TV when you were

setting with your husband (why are you guys always sitting down during campaigning -- health problems???) and started making fun of Mr. Kerry's fake suntan being orange. Oh so adult.

Also, when Republican, Alan Keyes, said your "LESBIAN daughter is a selfish hedonist." That was a man from your own party saying terrible things about your daughter.

Where was your outrage? Where was your Indignity? Why wasn't Mr. Keyes called a "bad man." Why did Cheney say anything to Mr. Keyes and his awful, awful remarks about your child?

You people are so desperate and sad. You are grasping at ANYTHING you possibly can to try to make Kerry and Edwards look bad. You cannot beat them in the debates, you cannot beat them with ideas, and you cannot beat them in the election (unless you can steal another one).

I hope Lynn Cheney (who writes lesbian love stories), has started packing already. I want them out of Edward's house ASAP.

Hypocrites.

[tanyev]

17. My question to Lynne

Mrs. Cheney, would you autograph my copy of your novel?

(If only I really had a copy)
:evilgrin:

[davidjhorrell]

22. Mrs Cheney...

...where can I buy a flying broomstick?