Chances for a Kerry landslide

[ramapo]

All the polls have been showing a race to close to call. Sure I'm biased but how can this really be?

Bush's approval ratings are below 50%.
The jobs situation is terrible.
Prices are rising.
Healthcare has not been addressed.
Environmental policies have regressed.
Iraq is a mess.
The rich get richer and everyone else is worse off.
Federal taxes went down a little for many and a lot for the top few...state and local taxes have increased for the many.
The cities are no better off.
Education hasn't been seriously addressed.
We are a very divided country.
American prestige is at an all-time low.
The Bush administration has operated behind closed doors, letting the foxes run the hen houses.
Corporations have unrivaled power.
America was attacked on Bush's watch.
American's are basically pro-choice while Bush is commited to no-choice.
Osama who?
Republican policies favor government control over personal issues.
Global warming has been ignored.
Science has been politicized.
And so on and so on and so on.

How can this not translate into an overwhelming victory for Kerry? Why would voters reward Bush for this terrible record?

[AverageJoe]

1. I don't think voters will

but Diebold might

[kwolf68]

2. Bush is primed to win

Because of the "Lesbian Situation".

[Steelangel]

6. I hope that was a sarcasm :P

[Nevernose]

3. You forgot the most important thing:

Democrats are PISSED! We WILL be going to the polls this year.

[Vincardog]

4. Landslide for KERRY OOOOOOH JEEEAAAAH

[Steelangel]

5. To tell you the truth..

I am rather tired of these poll topics but one thing I do know that Bush will not get higher numbers of votes compare to Kerry. The polls & results are/were skillfully manipulated by media who funded/supported by GOP to generate millions or billions dollars out of these races.

My belief is that they (GOP) saw the huge profit from creating the 'heated' race between Bush and Kerry, so they grab the opportunity and utilize the 'money machine' thru that.

Of course, GOP will try to screw up the Nov 2 election but it will be probably backfire on them.. Well, Kerry is suppose to be win in landslide for sure but again, these paperless touch-screen voting machines is huge factor for them to 'manipulate' it to their favor. I sincerely hope that democrats lawyers/UN are smart enough to keep their eyes on that to secure democrats and their votes.

That's how I see these from here. I don't believe that Bush is leading in these polls at all. Never did.

[Eurobabe]

26. think you are right...the pollsters and the media

are the only ones who have a vested interesting in whipping this horse to death.

[bobbieinok]

35. and dem registrations being tossed in NV and OR...and attacked

by SOS in OH

and not enuff ballots in WI

[Steelangel]

39. Yeah.. that is quite annoying. I hope we will get these back...

If Bush somehow win the election, we will have to recount or use these vote frauds & problems to challenge Bush. It is not fair to us.

[Burma Jones]

7. Simple.................

All the fucking morans that didn't get to Graduate School or get laid enough or couldn't play music or otherwise feel that they're looked down upon will vote for Bush to teach all us "uppity" freethinking, minority lovin' people a thing or two........

[dezenbunny]

10. Moran?

I believe the word you are looking for is "moron" as in:
mo·ron   (môrn, mr-)
n. 1. A stupid person; a dolt.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

14. "moran" is an in-joke around here, it's intentionally misspelt

[Arkana]

28. Inside joke

Can someone provide the picture?

[PCIntern]

30. dezenbunny:

Welcome to DU. As you are undoubtedly now aware, there is at least one inside joke, and probably about 55000. This place is like family but better because you don't have to eat holiday dinner with these folks...but get a feel for the dialogue - it's like going to your new boyfriend/girlfriend's house and meeting the parents: tread carefully before you get real acclimatized and start being too critical. People will either shun you or worse, think you're a Freeper, God forbid.

Enjoy the forums!

[kaitykaity]

8. Read Mark Shields' latest article about the history here.

Bush won't get any more than he already had, and
Kerry has nowhere to go but up.

KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE!! KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE!!

[kokomo]

9. Maybe a landslide IF Democrats are still registered at the polls.

What about all those Democrats who show up to vote only to find their registration forms were trash-canned by criminal Republicans? Won't do any good for Democrats to check in now to see if their form made it to the county clerk's office. It's too late, past the deadline, to RE-register.

Stolen votes.....is the "October Surprise" disenfranchised voters in mostly "swing states"?

[Nicholas_J]

11. The most recent poll

Has Bush approval at 50 percent disapproval at 45 percent

But this poll also has Kerrys approval at 50 percent and disapproval at 42 percent.

First time Kerrys national approval rating has matched Bushs

[chum]

12. I don't agrre

but - I hope you are right and I'm wrong. I maintain paranoia. And Bush will attempt to cheat.

[rullery]

13. Florida state rep. is urging Dems. to vote by absentee ballot.

I had a call this morning from my state representative (D). He is putting in requests for absentee ballots to be sent to all registered Democrats in the Lee county portion of his district. Lee county (Ft. Myers) is heavily Republican, and we use touch-screen voting with no paper trail. He is urging Democrats here to vote by absentee ballot, and I will. Apparently there is some question as to whether or not Democratic votes will be counted using the touch screen machines.

[Deja Q]

17. I received a huge laminated flyer from *, to absentee-vote. TWICE.

And given the number of problems that are occurring regarding voting and registration despite 4 years to do it in...

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[Qutzupalotl]

16. Hi Josh

I believe that life begins at birth, and outlawing abortion will kill women with no other option by forcing them into unsterile operations.

John Kerry supports the second amendment, and so do I.

John Kerry's health plan is not a government-run operation.

Wage earners can already invest their own money however they see fit.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

18. Funny how you only mention

the woman using birth control. What happened to the man's role in all of it?

Take away abortion and you'll go back to dirty, back-alley illegal abortions that endanger the woman's life. That happened to my mom in 1967. But I guess that's ok with you.

Tell me, Josh, how many kids have you fostered and/or adopted?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Social Security And Medicare Are Great Programs...

I also believe life begins at conception but I am not going to use the force of law to have others see it my way...

You can have as many guns as you want as long as you register them...

All you have to do is look at the number of seniors living in poverty and ill health before and after the inception of these programs...


If you make Social Security voluntary we will have a lot more broke old people... Go back to my first point... It's just a fact...


A 40% tax rate won't hurt the highest wage earners... When taxes become confiscatory and an impediment to growth I'll oppose them too...

[Deja Q]

23. when the baby-boomers retire,

SS will crash.

Medicare will crash beforehand unless the system is fixed.

Indeed, in today's newspaper, it was reported that UnitedHealth's profits jumped 47%. http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2004/10/14/ap1591263.html I'm sure all them trial lawyers are to blame for the continual 10+% annual jumps in prices. :eyes:

Repukes equate to corporate america. Our joke of a health care system (which is nowhere near the top of the list of the world's best, unlike *'s foggy claim) is a cash cow. Nothing more.

[Randi_Listener]

21. Taxing the rich

The "taxing the rich" model worked during the Clinton Presidency. The rich got richer and the poor also got richer.

I think that if you have more money in the hands of consumers (middle class), then the economy will expand. This benefits everyone across the economic spectrum. Trickle down economics never works.

[Deja Q]

22. Well, you are right,

I do not think we need more social programs. I do not think the government should control health-care. It seems that anything the government gets involved in gets screwed up.

Look at the war.

Look at how they spend, particularly when there's a republican president. And especially when they give big tax cuts to the wealthy in the process. (You must be very wealthy. I make under $50k per year and *'s tax cuts have given me nothing even remotely of substance.

Look at how politicians flip-flop on issues. * couldn't even keep the same story within a period of 7 days! First it was that Canada drugs weren't safe and one week later he's trying to get us to believe he'll turn to CANADA to get flu shot vaccine.

Not to forget Osama. He openly said he wasn't interested on 13 March 2002. Took over 2.5 years but, golly and shazam, he's interested again.

Bush is insane. His antics and reactions during all three of his debates proves he is not fit to be in charge of butter. In the first debate, and I wish I wrote down the quote, but by saying it he had painted a gigantic bullseye (in neon pink) over our country.

I am scared. Of him and his policies which are just as fanatical and un-compassionate as the terrorists he's created. (And if America is invaded, how would you react? Just how the Iraqis are, and I doubt they were happy when it was revealed there were no WMDs - the reason why * ham-fisted his way into that country. He flip-flopped during the debates on that too, with his excuses.)

I'm not keen on Kerry either. But I sure as hell know * will act. He only make EVERYTHING worse.

[Sparkly]

24. THINK

1. "I do believe that life starts at conception and that abortion is taking an innocent life." Then don't have an abortion.

2. "I also believe that our fore fathers had a good reason for including the second amendment and I do not think we should change it." John Kerry is not proposing to change it.

3. "I do not think the government should control health-care." Neither does John Kerry.

4. "...allow current wage earners to opt out of social security and have that money diverted to other more prosperous investments." Social Security is not an investment account. Those who've paid in for their parents need to receive back what they've paid, as well. We are already allowed to put money in retirement accounts. When there's a way to make a transition away from SS, fine; right now, there isn't even enough solvency to cover the baby boomers' retirement.

5. "I do not believe that raising taxes on the rich will help me when I need a job." Did the tax cut work to create jobs? How many times do we have to learn the same lesson? Empowering the middle class propels the economy, PERIOD. Borrowing money from the next generation to give a tax cut to the wealthy does NOT. There is no incentive to create jobs when nobody's buying. There's no incentive to buy when there are no jobs. You don't solve that by enriching the rich -- never worked, never will.

Enjoy your stay.

[CarinKaryn]

25. Thanks Josh

But nobody's interested in hearing your reasons for supporting the "commander"-in-thief.
Enjoy your (short) stay here.
Buhbye.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. At Least He Was Civilized....

I'd like to have a beer with him and see if I could persuade him...

I thought I made some reasonable points...

[Rochambeau]

31. I think it's great you came here Josh and just expose your political

opinions without insulting anybody. A bit of bi-partisan dialogue is a kind of luxury unfortunatly.

[The_Casual_Observer]

32. This guy is gone but.....

Bush only said he was against the government paying for abortions. Whether he would ever fight to make them completely illegal is up in the air and doubtful.

Social security for old people vanishes if today's workers don't pay in. There are already 401K plans to put your own money in. And anyway, how is Social Security screwed up? - this boy is clueless.

Oh, the rest of that post is beyond dealing with. Fuck him.

[misterphelps]

34. I appreciate your bravery

and respect your views on abortion.

However, I believe Kerry would serve the interests of those who are here, as in already born. Bush talks a lot about christianity, but his deeds fall far short. He doesn't look after his brother. In every single instance of choosing what is right for the individual citizens and what his corporate backers want, the corporations have won. Every single time.

Our environment - this effects all of us, and every generation to follow - has also been the victim of the Bush administration's greed.

Social Security is our system, like it or not, and millions of retired folks depend upon it to live. It is guaranteed by the government. Investments are not guaranteed, and to move to a privatized system will require trillions of dollars in additional money to keep the current system from collapsing. Our debt is at record levels - we don't have money for it now. I also believe it is another attempt by the wealthiest to privatize basic necessities for their tremendous gain, at everyone else's expense. (witness phones, water, electricity)

As far as raising taxes on the wealthiest, the tax rate on them is at the lowest level since the 1920s - since the advent of income tax. Clinton raised taxes on these individuals and the economy grew at the fastest in a century. Credit that to fiscal responsibility. Lowering their taxes has transfered the burden to the middle class. This trend cannot continue if we intend to maintain our current levels of living.

[devinsgram]

36. I believe the recruiters are looking

for people like you. But don't forget you will have to buy your own helmet and your own desert boots, oh and don't forget to take along some flack jackets to put on the doors and floors of the humvee you will be riding in so you don't get too much shrapnel in your body when you get hit with land mines.

[Steelangel]

38. Hmm

'I do believe that life starts at conception and that abortion is taking an innocent life. Therefore I do not think we should have abortion in any circumstance other than a threat to the mothers life or in the case of rape.'



For three reasons, I found it ironic in your statement: (english is not my first language so pardon my grammar)

Firstly, it is ok for them (soldiers who ordered by GOP) to slaughter 3,000 or more iraq children in non-WMD war yet it is no-no for women to make a decision on abortion or not.

Secondly, who are you to make a decision for entire women? Are you a God? No? I guess that's why more and more women decide to become lesbian to get 'away' from men to secure themselves, not that I blame them...

If government somehow place an ban on abortion, women will still find a way to have a abortion by go underground and half of them probably will get killed. Be prepare for higher casualties in near-future if abortion is to be outlawed. Heck, not even God can force his/her/its decision on people so why should we allow GOP to make a decision for women? Think carefully.

Thirdly, Ironically... as you already aware that there are large numbers of job creations & economy under Bill Clinton and there is decreasing numbers of abortions at same time! Now Bush 'unoffically' has became President and numbers of abortion is increasing. It is pretty obvious because of poor economy and many layoffs/outsoucring jobs in these days under Bush since they cannot afford to have child(ren) in first place. Don't give me an 'abstinence' crap. No one cares, it is their business to have a sex or not, not yours nor Bush nor GOP. As you may already know that condom is not 100% sex-safe.

The fact is right there front of your nose. It is your choice to face it or not.

[Moochy]

40. Tax Cut vs Micro Loans?

> It seems to me that if you raise taxes excessively on the rich they will no longer expand their businesses and hire the working class.

Bush gave his own class the majority of the tax cut.

If small businesses are the engine of the economy, as it's commonly said, then all these businesses are getting their money from their own class, not the ultra-elite rich. So, giving a small group of super rich people a huge tax break, only benefits that small group of people.

There is no guarantee that they will invest any of last years tax cuts in their business. Perhaps there is a tendency to reinvest, but no guarantee.

If the actual goal of the Bush Administration was to kick start the economy, then giving out small micro-loans and grants to small business owners would seem more cost-effective. New business buy a lot of stuff, equipment, services, utilities, etc.

Micro Lending works in the developing (aka third world) countries,
why not here?

http://www.seedsnetwork.org/microlending.html

[w4rma]

19. Many folks are brainwashed. This will be VERY hard won. No landslide.

Btw, ignore the polls and spend that time more wisely, instead of spending fruitless time analyzing them.

[high density]

29. So many people don't realize there are big problems, though

Because if the president says everything is all hunky dory, that's fine with them!

[natrat]

33. hi Josh

what you are saying is interesting but is trumped by the fact that republicans at this point, and bush in particular ,are totally dishonest and the rule of law means very little to them. With corrupt leaders we are lost.

[DemocracyInaction]

37. That's just the kind of stuff on the eve of mid-term elections 2002

that was going on in this country and we got slaughtered. So let's stop talking nonsense and start working. This is going to be a win by the skin of out teeth at best in a few key states...period.